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Microsoft needs  ParadigmOdyssey | 09/08/04
Chief, we gotta put SOMETHING in shorthorn!  chiwawa | 09/08/04
Worse! With restrictions!  Xunil_Sierutuf | 09/09/04
Owners have ZERO restrictions.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
it means I won't buy into it  V Sanders | 09/09/04
I agree, labling is important.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Why? Windows is a Toy Operating System  brenthawkinsmd | 09/09/04
You have trouble clicking?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
I was thinking ame thing  V Sanders | 09/09/04
It's irritating  voska | 09/09/04
Well the decision is made - - -  sometime | 09/09/04
No matter the name, customsters stay away from DRM...  Root User | 09/08/04
Yea, what he said! And "the link"  Xunil_Sierutuf | 09/09/04
thanks!!  cybershoplifter | 09/09/04
Not a chance, not even a remote chance...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
if customers had a CHOICE  V Sanders | 09/09/04
And if wishes were fishes...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
you are wrong  V Sanders | 09/09/04
always that same assumption...  ryusen | 09/09/04
Here it is....  richdave | 10/03/04
no kidding  V Sanders | 09/09/04
"Feedback from industry" must be RIAA,MPAA  Xunil_Sierutuf | 09/09/04
And every company with sensitive content.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
yes, companies want their pc's calling ms  V Sanders | 09/09/04
More black helicopters?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
you don't think....  ryusen | 09/09/04
The phone-home thing.  cbiltcliffe@... | 09/10/04
nonsense  NemesisNL | 09/09/04
And the governments around the world.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
the true reason the DOJ let ms off  V Sanders | 09/09/04
Ummm, seen any little green men lately?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
No  php_developer | 09/09/04
Do me a favor then, don't read them.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
would make it easier to spread you FUD wouldn't it(NT)  V Sanders | 09/09/04
Pretty Thin Agenda No Ax  ParadigmOdyssey | 09/09/04
and you think...  ryusen | 09/09/04
yeah  NemesisNL | 09/09/04
DRM can be good or bad depending on how it's implemented  Michael Kelly | 09/09/04
why not give customers the CHOICE  V Sanders | 09/09/04
You are dead wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
you are right  V Sanders | 09/09/04
You are dead wrong...  nomorems | 09/10/04
Well, I bet MS wishes it could...  Zogg | 09/12/04
You do have choice  Michael Kelly | 09/09/04
not true  V Sanders | 09/09/04
Are you saying...  Michael Kelly | 09/09/04
Try again.  bhanes@... | 09/09/04
How so?  Michael Kelly | 09/09/04
Copying *nix  Roger Ramjet | 09/09/04
OUTSTANDING!!! Simply outstanding!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
the OWNER  V Sanders | 09/09/04
That would depend on how it was sold...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Copyright abuse  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/09/04
Yes, far too many abuse copyright law.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
so punish paying customers with DRM  V Sanders | 09/09/04
I don;t care if RIAA increases sales or not.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
your right no ax, you just want ms to control the world  V Sanders | 09/09/04
Bad Laws  tic swayback | 09/09/04
And that is where you are wrong, dead wrong!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
What would you have us do?  tic swayback | 09/09/04
no ax - in your part of the world the rich are not punished  V Sanders | 09/09/04
Your speed law explanation works against you  voska | 09/09/04
Bad Laws cont'd  tic swayback | 09/09/04
Let me put it another way so you can understand.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Fuzzy logic  tic swayback | 09/09/04
I agree to one point.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Do you use a VCR?  tic swayback | 09/09/04
No, I don't.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
To No_Ax: Why Fair Use exists  Joel R | 09/09/04
Wow, you've never Xeroxed anything out of a book?  tic swayback | 09/09/04
and let me turn that around...  ryusen | 09/09/04
Respond to the actual message, No_Ax.  Joel R | 09/09/04
Thanks for pointing out the strawman  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/09/04
Sorry, I'm kinda new to ZD TalkBack.  Joel R | 09/09/04
Need to use square brackets [ ] rather than...  MacCanuck | 09/09/04
Unreadable post. Forget the HTML, ok?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Speed laws a good analogy  Anton Philidor | 09/09/04
Speed??  voska | 09/09/04
Respond to the actual message, No_Ax (v.2)  Joel R | 09/09/04
denouncing the theives...  ryusen | 09/09/04
That is the question, isn't it?  Michael Kelly | 09/09/04
Says who?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
You're taking me way too literally  Michael Kelly | 09/09/04
No, your wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Mine can  voska | 09/09/04
Ok here:  Michael Kelly | 09/09/04
You are white noise...  nomorems | 09/10/04
Good point  voska | 09/10/04
was it on the label"  V Sanders | 09/09/04
Not required.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Wrong  tic swayback | 09/09/04
Most are NOT labled as a CD. You assume it is.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Consider yourself A** then, you are still wrong  tic swayback | 09/09/04
tic, are your arms tired yet.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Not even breathing heavy  tic swayback | 09/09/04
Does this mean we'll be signing contracts?  tic swayback | 09/09/04
tic, you assume I care what you do...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Just asking you to clarify your point?  tic swayback | 09/09/04
Call it buyer bewware.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Lemon laws  tic swayback | 09/09/04
tic, let me explain it one more time.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
But they can't break the law or their contracts to do it  tic swayback | 09/09/04
No_Ax is White Noise...  nomorems | 09/10/04
That's why I don't buy online music  voska | 09/09/04
No additional restriction can be applied for a purchase  voska | 09/09/04
Ummm, dude  php_developer | 09/09/04
Owner versus rightsholder  tic swayback | 09/09/04
Doesn't matter, DRM is here and there is nothing you can do about it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Just shut up and go along with the fascists?  tic swayback | 09/09/04
That is the MS way...  nomorems | 09/10/04
If I BUY it then it is up to ME on how I use it legally  BitTwiddler | 09/09/04
how wrong you are...  ryusen | 09/09/04
That's exactly where it is now,  NemesisNL | 09/09/04
Dull Ax, Dull Ax, Dull Ax. Again, so wrong....  richdave | 10/03/04
How about the consumer?  CobraA1 | 09/09/04
It IS for the consumer.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
spyware no-ax - it's spyware  V Sanders | 09/09/04
Then YOUR choice is to not buy it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
ms will let OEMs give us this choice - LOL  V Sanders | 09/09/04
Every major OEM sells Linux boxes.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
NAME ONE  V Sanders | 09/09/04
To V Sanders: HP does  Michael Kelly | 09/09/04
How about, HP, DELL, IBM, Gateway to name a few.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Uh, OEM's don't sell content.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
are you saying ms has no content - lol  V Sanders | 09/09/04
Not entirely true  voska | 09/09/04
Look at this....Dull Ax.  richdave | 10/03/04
Boy, you really DON'T get it do you...  BitTwiddler | 09/09/04
How does it get better?  NemesisNL | 09/09/04
Huge hole to remain for 2 years  Teknophobic | 09/09/04
MS Can Seperate These Things But NOT IE From the OS???  brenthawkinsmd | 09/09/04
What ever gave yu such a silly idea?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Microsoft said that in court.  B.O.F.H. | 09/09/04
Sorry, you are wrong and need help.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
ms doubletalk  V Sanders | 09/09/04
The fact you can't understand is not my fault.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Not double talk  voska | 09/09/04
find the citation!  B.O.F.H. | 09/09/04
You made the claim, you back it up.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
that means no ax knows he is wrong  V Sanders | 09/09/04
Wasn't my claim, back up your statement.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Based upon your comment...  B.O.F.H. | 09/09/04
Read the thread, who made the statement??  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
And Judge (hangem) Jackson said.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
that is not what they said in court  V Sanders | 09/09/04
That is exactlly what they said.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
here are two links  NemesisNL | 09/09/04
Will this work??  richdave | 10/03/04
Users don't care  voska | 09/09/04
the majority of users aren't even aware to make the choice...  ryusen | 09/09/04
If only we knew what we were talking about.  Anton Philidor | 09/09/04
Alas, on the issue of DRM, No_Ax is largely correct.  B.O.F.H. | 09/09/04
And we now know  Confused by religion | 09/09/04
What can I say, the industry pays well!  B.O.F.H. | 09/09/04
You seem to know a lot about it...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Much of this is ancient history....  B.O.F.H. | 09/09/04
Just ask Gutenberg  tic swayback | 09/09/04
Why is it BOFH knows so much about ......  BXLE | 09/09/04
Who broght up Linux?  B.O.F.H. | 09/09/04
that's fine and dandy IF...  ryusen | 09/09/04
No big deal, Apple is the future  FilledOut | 09/09/04
Clue for you, Apple (IBM CPU) has DRM.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
You made the claim, you back it up  tic swayback | 09/09/04
Not all Intel CPUs will have DRM  scrapheap | 09/09/04
Old and out of date article. Sorrry, your wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
So show us your source...  scrapheap | 09/09/04
Yeah, let's see it!  tic swayback | 09/09/04
To no ax...  Michael Kelly | 09/09/04
Sorry that was supposed to be a reply to no ax's comment  Michael Kelly | 09/09/04
Is that true?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Exactly my point  Michael Kelly | 09/09/04
And we know what "assume" does...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
WRONG. Try again.  Michael Kelly | 09/09/04
Actually, they are labeled incorrectly  tic swayback | 09/09/04
Sorry, but that's your mistake.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/04
Actually, somethnig like that happened to my uncle.  Michael Kelly | 09/09/04
How many times can you be so wrong?  tic swayback | 09/09/04
Again, Dull Ax......sigh.  richdave | 10/03/04
lock down the user instead lowering the price.. *sigh*  M_c | 09/09/04
Microsoft security?  stromberge | 09/10/04
Longhorn ain't done  Sunny Jalolly | 09/10/04
WINDOWS SECURITY NOT GOOD ENUGH  MASTERPICE | 09/11/04
Did we miss our meds?  Linux User 147560 | 09/11/04
This is why I started using Linux  blackbelt_jones | 04/27/05

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