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no one can orchestrate innovation
This post is a good summary of what has ALWAYS been the case with engineers and other technology workers. It goes back 50 years or more at this point, well before the computer/internet boom of the last decade. And I see no real evidence that anything is changing for the better for those involved with technical careers.

Instead I see people taking college courses in crap like "research management" -- as if you could put the technical creative process on a nice neat timetable that meshes with the corporate need for progress reports and quarterly profit statements. Pure bunk!

The fact is that REAL research cannot be called upon to produce a desired result (or any result) in any preordained fashion. That's why most technical jobs involve a continual reshuffling and tweaking of what is already known and established. The people in charge (MBAs) would simply be devastated and overwhelmed if a true breakthrough were to occur on their watch.

It is also true that you cannot predict WHO will come up with the great idea or insight that moves things to the next level. Management might hope it is the anointed PHD who has published in all the right journals. But such people DO NOT have a lock on the creative process, and their academnic training may well have squeezed from them the last spark of originality and intuition necessary to see beyond mere career survival.

Finally, there is not and never has been a "shortage" of PHDs, engineers, technicians, wire benders, disco dancers, or anyone else you can name who works for a living at the behest of others in a free market system. The only shortage is of opportunities that make it worthhile to amass personal debt and forego work for 5-10 years while earning an advanced degree. Supply and demand, anyone?
Posted by: dmennie   Posted on: 08/09/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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glut in S&E and visas  Professor8 | 08/06/04
it is just economics  dg mh | 08/06/04
I agree  Protector | 08/06/04
Are degrees that important in research?  s-f@... | 08/06/04
Cure for cancer is not profitable  voska | 08/06/04
Good question  Bill4 | 08/06/04
Mirrored experience.  Outside T. Box | 08/06/04
Yeah, but that's not research  markdoc.geo | 04/11/05
WHere is the need, and why is it of such low value?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/06/04
It's like that need in other fields  voska | 08/06/04
Its a lot scarier then that even  johnnyu | 08/06/04
Tech is sending more than low paying entry level jobs offshore.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/06/04
customer service jobs are going fast  V Sanders | 08/06/04
You have some interesting points there!  B.O.F.H. | 08/06/04
Absolutely correct  Bill4 | 08/06/04
A case in point...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/06/04
OTOH  Torgam | 08/11/04
no one can orchestrate innovation  dmennie | 08/09/04
The problem is...  markdoc.geo | 04/11/05
Irrelevant  betelgeuse68 | 08/06/04
Possisble reason  Update victim | 08/06/04
Why should the kids bother...  balsover | 08/06/04
no kidding  V Sanders | 08/06/04
"NEXT president" Hah!  Outside T. Box | 08/06/04
Loss of high tech lead is certainly next  mespoppa | 08/10/04
No....  markdoc.geo | 04/11/05
"worry about their future work force"  BitTwiddler | 08/06/04
Are you ready??? I Agree with you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/06/04
haha  V Sanders | 08/06/04
Completely dishonest premise  crankyinmv | 08/17/04
The brains just figured out where the future is  MyLord | 08/06/04
Quote from a close friend...  Linux User 147560 | 08/06/04
Don't waste your time.  systemcleaner | 08/06/04
Industry Leaders Worried?  samp_z | 08/07/04
Giving advice- Mine and Yours.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/07/04
I have been pointing students away from computer science for three years  erok | 08/09/04
I would, but not the same way I did.  tranjaime | 08/11/04
What, Me Worry?  jonnjonnzdnet | 08/10/04
This is all you need to know about the Ph.D.  lchavez | 08/12/04
It's The Tax Gap, Stupid (Ed)  mark_pecora | 08/17/04
Brain drain  jtsylvanis@... | 09/30/04
tax solution  jessebos | 04/20/05

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