Temporary setback- you cannot prevent FREEdom.
Xunil_Sierutuf | 08/05/04
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Do you even read the articles?
JustMe99_z | 08/05/04
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i have my doubts on that...
ryusen | 08/05/04
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my spelling is inaccurate
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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It is not the patent issue..
Mike Cox | 08/05/04
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Mike sugestion: Get a new vendor.
startiger | 08/05/04
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9.6 Mike I like the tip part (NT)
Squawkbox | 08/05/04
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8.2. It seemed a but rushed (nt)
rkadowns | 08/05/04
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Oh, it's Microsoft all right...
AbsolutelyNot | 08/05/04
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Patent issues needs to be resolved quick.
computer_man | 08/05/04
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From TechWeb
Expatriate US Geek | 08/05/04
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Patent Free Linux Version
Peter Komisar | 08/05/04
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Patent free Linux
d_jedi | 08/05/04
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Patent Free... ...not if I have a say...
el1jones | 08/05/04
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Does ZDNet Have nothing else to report?
startiger | 08/05/04
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Gee, you didn't whine when Munich said they were switching. WHY?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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So what are you whining about now?
Jay Cash | 08/05/04
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compare the impact of the statements...
ryusen | 08/05/04
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Implying? Or hoping?
IT_User | 08/05/04
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Munich halts biggest-ever Linux migration
Loverock Davidson | 08/05/04
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Things are not always as they seem
WhoIsDaMan | 08/05/04
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Egad!
OhMyGosh | 08/05/04
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Better to read German, youwould actually know what the issues were!
B.O.F.H. | 08/05/04
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Actually, in reads better in Hindi.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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It all reads the same
AbsolutelyNot | 08/05/04
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Achtung!
seosamh_z | 08/05/04
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Joe,
bchesmer | 08/06/04
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BOFH, so your the only human that can interpret?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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wir m?ssen die linux abschaffen!
d_jedi | 08/05/04
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I know what your problem is:
Judas I. | 08/05/04
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Linux Conquers All!
Yehuda Mann | 08/06/04
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Proof
Tim Patterson | 08/05/04
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OK all knowing one, how did MS do this?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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C'mon Bit think a little will ya?
Tim Patterson | 08/05/04
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I suggest trying it yourself.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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The problem
Tim Patterson | 08/05/04
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Facts are always simple.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Who cares?
johnnyu | 08/05/04
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Who cares? Ummm, the City of Munich for starters.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Here you go Tim
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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You are only patialy right AX.
bchesmer | 08/06/04
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Fighting talk
seosamh_z | 08/05/04
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Not worth a fight, just show me the facts.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Are ya lazy?
Tim Patterson | 08/05/04
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Are you?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Jeez
johnnyu | 08/05/04
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Well Tim???
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Ax
bchesmer | 08/06/04
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No, puzzled
seosamh_z | 08/05/04
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ROFL, good post.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Grow Up
JustMe99_z | 08/05/04
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Don't forget...
AbsolutelyNot | 08/05/04
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I know you weren't addressing me, but...
AbsolutelyNot | 08/05/04
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Answered
OhMyGosh | 08/05/04
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That's utter crap
Tim Patterson | 08/05/04
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Why?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Shallow
Tim Patterson | 08/05/04
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Call it anything you like, it's still copying.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Then..
Patrick Jones | 08/05/04
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No
seosamh_z | 08/05/04
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True, it's not even a good copy.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Quality
JimZ_z | 08/05/04
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That is silly
balsover | 08/05/04
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I'll tell you why
Omch'Ar | 08/05/04
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I'll agree with that(nt)
el1jones | 08/05/04
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listen to what you said:
ryusen | 08/05/04
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what proof?
ryusen | 08/05/04
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It would appear Pub Pat's statement hit home.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Better to read what they said (in German)
B.O.F.H. | 08/05/04
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Better to read it in Hindi.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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The issue is that you have been proved wrong!
B.O.F.H. | 08/05/04
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The day will never happen where you can prove anyone right or wrong.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Are you stiill challanging Gates and Ballmer on China?
B.O.F.H. | 08/05/04
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BOFH, let me explain it to you one last time.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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What does
Linux User 147560 | 08/05/04
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Absolutely nothing!!!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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I don't think that was
Linux User 147560 | 08/05/04
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Then what was it?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Pretty easy to understand, even if you don't read German.
B.O.F.H. | 08/05/04
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You bet it is BOFH. Here you go.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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No_Ax, do you know what "temporarily" means?
B.O.F.H. | 08/05/04
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Temporary, the first step to permanent.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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No_Axe, that's funny
voska | 08/05/04
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Sorry No_Ax, but I do read German!
B.O.F.H. | 08/05/04
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Good for you, now work on your English.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Two things
AbsolutelyNot | 08/05/04
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Shivers down a whole lot of people's backs?
IT_User | 08/05/04
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where are all the
eLurker | 08/05/04
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Hiding with a very embarrassed look on their faces.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Intelectual Property issues need to be addressed.
DonnieBoy | 08/05/04
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DonnieBoy please explain that to me.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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how not being allowed to copy limits innovation
mbraincell@... | 08/05/04
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A poor analogy.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Do you ever read a message before answering ?
mbraincell@... | 08/05/04
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Read it twice. Nothing there I didn't respond to.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Try once again.
mbraincell@... | 08/05/04
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Re-read it, no change.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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why do you presume ms would own a patent and Free software foundation not?
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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I agree
johnnyu | 08/05/04
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Sorry you are wrong.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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who says open source can't participate in patents
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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Participate is a strange word in this case.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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You don't understand the GPL NoAx
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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To help you remember
Anton Philidor | 08/05/04
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No reason why you can't "mix" code
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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Software making non-disclosure agreements
Anton Philidor | 08/05/04
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From your keyboard to Microsoft's eyes
AbsolutelyNot | 08/05/04
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And yet, none of their users care at all...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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"None?"
AbsolutelyNot | 08/05/04
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How did copying get into this discussion?
IT_User | 08/05/04
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Can I say "I TOLD YOU SO" yet?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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I guess it was time. GRIN (NT)
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Message has been deleted.
B.O.F.H. | 08/05/04
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Patents are a minefield for ALL software vendors
George Mitchell | 08/06/04
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Sure...
Delaware Boy | 08/05/04
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really?
ryusen | 08/05/04
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You're right; the counter-argument...
Anton Philidor | 08/05/04
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I'll make the statement then
IT_User | 08/05/04
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WHAT?
IT_User | 08/05/04
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Reasonable to patent software
Anton Philidor | 08/05/04
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I'll try to rephrase
IT_User | 08/05/04
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Licensing out an invention
Anton Philidor | 08/05/04
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A few observations
IT_User | 08/05/04
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Risks without patents.
Anton Philidor | 08/05/04
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You bet I've noticed.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Can you say...?
AbsolutelyNot | 08/05/04
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No.
Anton Philidor | 08/05/04
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Yep, you're right at the heart of software patenting
IT_User | 08/05/04
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Totally off
rapson | 08/06/04
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why is it all of your i told you sos...
ryusen | 08/05/04
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Why are they spot on?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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i never said you were wrong about those issues...
ryusen | 08/05/04
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ZZ, come on now...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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welll i've called you many names...
ryusen | 08/05/04
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lol, such cockiness
johnnyu | 08/05/04
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Cocky? No,,,
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Thinking of Patton?
Anton Philidor | 08/05/04
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a lesson
johnnyu | 08/05/04
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as usual you're wrong noax
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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See my other answer to you.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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No, not yet
balsover | 08/05/04
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Probably will migrate
Anton Philidor | 08/05/04
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Why would that be?
IT_User | 08/05/04
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Impressions count.
Anton Philidor | 08/05/04
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No, not on the desktop
IT_User | 08/05/04
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A matter of perspective
IT_User | 08/05/04
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You will say it and you will once again be wrong
AmusedAtItAll | 08/08/04
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Proof POSITIVE that unsubstantiated FUD works 
BitTwiddler | 08/05/04
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Blame Linus T., Bruce P. and Pub Pat.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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OK IBM,
Update victim | 08/05/04
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Um, they tried and it failed.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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OS/2 = yep that load of bulldust written by .... Microsoft
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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Wow, how can you be so wrong?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Microsoft OS/2 stories from the past
B.O.F.H. | 08/05/04
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MS did not write OS/2 slick.
balsover | 08/05/04
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Microsoft OS/2 was from 1987
B.O.F.H. | 08/05/04
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News releases are not product releases
balsover | 08/05/04
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Ok, more data for you on Microsoft OS/2
B.O.F.H. | 08/05/04
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Yes they did
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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If we could see inside windows
Arrg | 08/05/04
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Sorry, wrong.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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No- RIGHT!
AbsolutelyNot | 08/05/04
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Wrong about the light bulb.
Anton Philidor | 08/05/04
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Sorry, wrong.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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You have a choice...
Linux User 147560 | 08/05/04
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Show me the patent.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Missed the point
Linux User 147560 | 08/06/04
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actually noax, you do have to look at the code
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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Nope, just ask OMC. (Outboard Marine Corporation)
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Why do you think this is relevant to software algorithms?
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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Because it is the basis patents work under.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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The problem with software is this
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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You both have your points
IT_User | 08/05/04
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Patents, validity, and time limits
Update victim | 08/05/04
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So what are you suggesting as an alternative?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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How Much Time Do You HAVE!?!?! 40+ post and still going strong.
el1jones | 08/05/04
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Don't be jealous of my life style and free time.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Everyone on the unemployment line earned it too!! Bwahahahaha!!
Jeff Spicoli | 08/05/04
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Message has been deleted.
B.O.F.H. | 08/05/04
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it's sure nice of you microsofties to give us advance warning
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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From your lips!!!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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personally I'm not involved
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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Patents
paul_123 | 08/05/04
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But sharing knowledge is done.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Sharing Knowledge
paul_123 | 08/05/04
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Why?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Not this way
AbsolutelyNot | 08/05/04
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But it is all very well documented.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Not give it away?
AbsolutelyNot | 08/05/04
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Re: But sharing knowledge is done.
none none | 08/05/04
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Where to lay the blame???
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/06/04
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I Agree...
el1jones | 08/05/04
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So, Apple needed a license is all.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Re: So, Apple needed a license is all.
none none | 08/05/04
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I agree with one statement.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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I agree with most of your post.
Anton Philidor | 08/05/04
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patent nonsense
xaldx | 08/06/04
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Reign in patent monopolization of commerce
xaldx | 08/06/04
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Too late now, charge on ahead
FilledOut | 08/05/04
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You bring up a good point.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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What makes a company "LITTLE' compared to big?
Laff | 08/05/04
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I tend to look at market share.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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market share: BritishOxygenCo. owns all the oxygen people breathe in the UK
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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Pardon me, he asked what *I* use, not your view point.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Still haven't grasped the concept of "open forum," I see...
AbsolutelyNot | 08/05/04
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Sorry Diva, he asked me a very specific question.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/06/04
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Good idea
PA-ITGuy | 08/05/04
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Have you priced the Xserver to the rest of the field?
Laff | 08/05/04
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Hellooooo
PA-ITGuy | 08/05/04
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Politicians for Windows - vs - Tax Payers for Linux
kd5auq | 08/05/04
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Sorry, 90$ - 95% of 'taxpayers" prefer Windows.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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There is nothing to back your assertion on taxpayer preferance!
B.O.F.H. | 08/05/04
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Ah, so your claiming MS is NOT a monopoly in Europe.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/06/04
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The EU Commission fined them for past actions!
B.O.F.H. | 08/06/04
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I for one am just going to waite and see....
Laff | 08/05/04
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However Open source is more innovative, and gaining it's own patents.
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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nad do what with them? Give them away via GPL?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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remember what microsoft said
hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
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And what good is that.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/06/04
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You're just being obtuse again - get a life.
George Mitchell | 08/07/04
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Not really
balsover | 08/05/04
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Mr. Stallman gets the bomb?
Anton Philidor | 08/05/04
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ROFL
ejhonda | 08/05/04
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Not until some people start using it.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/05/04
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Gee, you are in a nasty mood today, aren't you
balsover | 08/05/04
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Nope, I am a realist.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/06/04
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IBM might outpace other patent holders
FilledOut | 08/06/04
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Does it matter who has the most nukes?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/06/04
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Software Patents....
IT_Critic | 08/06/04
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WOW! No_ax No_Life had 65 posts on this thread !!
Plain Logic | 08/06/04
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