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Not a big deal
Linus Trovalds has already said he had no problems with DRM in the kernel. The door is open. Microsoft will ofcourse push for a very proprietary method of doing business to lock that from happening. IBM, Sun, HP, or some other Microsoft-enemy will than produce a group to develop an open standard/market approach. Both will fight it out and eventually nothing will happen with DRM. DRM will become some obscure technology no one really uses but ZDNet puts up any article they can find on it.

Rest of us carry on with the real world.
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Not a big deal  OhMyGosh | 08/03/04
What are you talking about???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Yes it is  Anton Philidor | 08/04/04
morally right, logistically wrong...  ryusen | 08/04/04
Right on!  George Mitchell | 08/07/04
Linux, digital rights on collision course  Loverock Davidson | 08/03/04
Whose complaining?  OhMyGosh | 08/03/04
Too True  Jeff Spicoli | 08/03/04
DRM is popular  Amberhawk | 08/04/04
DRM doesn't exist as a viable technology.  Yen_z | 08/04/04
It's obvious you don't use MS Office 2003.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Well, I guess for you, perhaps.  Yen_z | 08/04/04
Really?  Linux User 147560 | 08/04/04
LOL.  bhanes@... | 08/04/04
Actually  Linux User 147560 | 08/04/04
Actually, the success of DRM is vital for wide adoption ebooks etc.  P. Douglas | 08/04/04
A pipe dream  voska | 08/04/04
um...  ryusen | 08/04/04
Riiiight...  PA-ITGuy | 08/04/04
Actually...  Mack DaNife | 08/04/04
DVDs easy to copy?  PA-ITGuy | 08/04/04
you're off base  ryusen | 08/04/04
Whose complaining?  Loverock Davidson | 08/04/04
if they are incompatable...  ryusen | 08/04/04
Too sad  Jeff Spicoli | 08/03/04
Too sad  Loverock Davidson | 08/04/04
Lovey, don't be afraid of the future!  Xunil_Sierutuf | 08/04/04
Denial?  Loverock Davidson | 08/04/04
Not what Linus said, and you need to get out more..  Xunil_Sierutuf | 08/04/04
DRM in the kernel of Open Source=catch22?  PA-ITGuy | 08/04/04
Not really...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
That's pretty much what I thought. Thanks. (NT)  PA-ITGuy | 08/04/04
And..  Patrick Jones | 08/04/04
Linux will trounce the DRM abomination.  Xunil_Sierutuf | 08/04/04
Sure will  Anton Philidor | 08/04/04
get real  ryusen | 08/04/04
probably a losing fight  balsover | 08/04/04
From The First Inaugural Address of Ulysses S. Grant  BanjoPaterson | 08/04/04
It will be buried  johnnyu | 08/04/04
No matter  amicus_curious | 08/04/04
Problem with DRM  voska | 08/04/04
It's obvious  amicus_curious | 08/04/04
I agree, corporate use one the only uses for DRM  voska | 08/04/04
What are you talking about, what "keys"?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Obviously you don't know how DRM works  voska | 08/04/04
AMEN, and so true!  Xunil_Sierutuf | 08/04/04
I see Fink's mistake.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
so much for capitalism...  ryusen | 08/04/04
No_Ax_to_Grind Is A Big FAT IDIOT  RobertoSalazar | 08/05/04
How long can this last?  amicus_curious | 08/04/04
About as long as the "commune" craze lasted.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
That?s right...  P. Douglas | 08/04/04
Give me a break! It's software not politics.  voska | 08/04/04
Give it 10 years and we'll see.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Going 15 years now  voska | 08/04/04
True, we still have a few OLD hippies running around.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Don't see the hippy comparison  voska | 08/04/04
Wasn't making a comparison...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
You miss my point  voska | 08/04/04
It is in fact more about politics than it is about software  P. Douglas | 08/04/04
Wow  johnnyu | 08/04/04
Good point  voska | 08/04/04
Enjoy your hobby.  Anton Philidor | 08/04/04
I have a job  johnnyu | 08/04/04
Linux is a replacement product  Anton Philidor | 08/04/04
Harm  voska | 08/04/04
Why should he?  techboy_z | 08/04/04
Rampant capitalism  techboy_z | 08/04/04
Not quite  Mack DaNife | 08/04/04
Mr. Fink must be looking for a new Job!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Hmmm, no replies. Not that I expected any.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Where is the conflict?  Mack DaNife | 08/04/04
Let me help by pointing it out.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Missed my call to the Psycic Friends today!  Mack DaNife | 08/04/04
Make a point or not, DRM will happen.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Sounds to me  johnnyu | 08/04/04
Did you read what HP has said. (I copied it for you.)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Not necessarily so  Chad_z | 08/04/04
This stuff should be renamed...  BitTwiddler | 08/04/04
Why DRM will become a fact of life.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Look at why they want it  voska | 08/04/04
Are you completely lost?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Microsoft give what customers want  voska | 08/04/04
I disagree.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
not just corperations...  ryusen | 08/04/04
Confusing DRM with the DCMA  jjon2121 | 08/04/04
Did you read any of the recent headlines.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
The DMCA just brings the US in line with WIPO rules.  B.O.F.H. | 08/04/04
Good! A win for Linux!  Mack DaNife | 08/04/04
I agree completely.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
At least with Linux there will still be a choice  Michael Kelly | 08/04/04
FINALLY, someone gets it!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Again the beauty and power of Linux  Linux User 147560 | 08/04/04
No consumer vote?  Robert Crocker | 08/04/04
But...  Mack DaNife | 08/04/04
Not at all...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
what?  johnnyu | 08/04/04
Gee, you need to get out more.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Johynny, did you read any of it yet?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
I did  johnnyu | 08/04/04
Well, at least you are getting up to speed.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Who is the consumer?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Robert, who is the consumer???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
The CONTENT consumer ya yutz!  Robert Crocker | 08/09/04
the consumer? *laugh*  ryusen | 08/04/04
Not all CPUs  scrapheap | 08/04/04
right end result, wrong reasoning.  ryusen | 08/04/04
Kind of funny  johnnyu | 08/04/04
Yes Linux will continue; ...  Anton Philidor | 08/04/04
Nothing funny at all.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Data can be secure  johnnyu | 08/04/04
Of course it can, as long as it adopts MS "standards".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Nope  johnnyu | 08/04/04
No bashing at all.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
How is this the end of the GPL?  Michael Kelly | 08/04/04
Yes, no and maybe.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
How many DRM's  Anton Philidor | 08/04/04
Over time, there will be only one.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
As long as you agree it'll be paid DRM...  Anton Philidor | 08/04/04
Hand it over to MS?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
That'll depend on how severe the public backlash is  Michael Kelly | 08/04/04
MS is using RAND.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Well if that's the case...  Michael Kelly | 08/04/04
Yup, it works for me too.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Microsoft on Linux, done already  voska | 08/04/04
Really can't argue  johnnyu | 08/04/04
jonny/voska  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Really wouldn't mind  johnnyu | 08/04/04
So you think DRM is hard?  hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04
Even funnier  johnnyu | 08/04/04
Care to take a guess how many computers in China run Windows?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
We'll see how long that lasts  johnnyu | 08/04/04
You bet they will..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Does Microsoft Need China?  B.O.F.H. | 08/04/04
BOFH, eventually yes.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
No_Ax, Microsoft does not agree with you on this!  B.O.F.H. | 08/04/04
BIFH, no, a few people at MS feel that way, not top management.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Would the opinions members of Microsoft Board of Directors help?  B.O.F.H. | 08/04/04
Um, you do know China just signed the WTO treaty right?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
You mean like Munich Germany?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Munich figured it out and has tossed Linux out.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
Did you read the article  voska | 08/04/04
No, you missed it. Read it again.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
they dropped nothing...  ryusen | 08/04/04
Um, they dropped moving ahead according to schedule right?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
the difference between delayed and dead... learn it  ryusen | 08/04/04
Alas, there is more to it (so don't be too happy about it...)  B.O.F.H. | 08/04/04
True, the Austrians are making a mistake but won't admit it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
By the way, I am not "happy" about it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
The issues were not with Linux but rather the software on it.  B.O.F.H. | 08/04/04
Truew, it's problems with open source in general.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
You really don?t know much about the supporters!  B.O.F.H. | 08/04/04
too many licenses?  ryusen | 08/04/04
Yes, including Microsoft.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
so what's your point?  ryusen | 08/04/04
Just to remind certain people that the rules apply to all.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
No caveats?  rapson | 08/04/04
I agree  Michael Kelly | 08/04/04
when did i mention patents?  ryusen | 08/04/04
You didn't  rapson | 08/04/04
Good post. (NT)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/04/04
in that case...  ryusen | 08/04/04
OK  rapson | 08/04/04
Use those Linux distros and bypass DRM  FilledOut | 08/05/04
Possibility of DRM backfiring for MS and RIAA.  hipparchus2000 | 08/05/04

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