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the simple solution here...
is if you want to be "linux friendly" and still hold rights to your patent, just put as part of the licensing terms that your patent is free to use for academic, research, or with certain types of open source licenses.
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Good luck on this...  Martin Marvinski | 08/01/04
Re-read the article.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
And...  Martin Marvinski | 08/02/04
Yes we red the article!  Mack DaNife | 08/02/04
Is OSRM now an accomplice?  gitmo | 08/03/04
Microsoft patents...  Jomo_z | 08/02/04
LOL, The Patent Office employees Fools...  el1jones | 08/02/04
Your being a little harse on the Patent Office..  DigitalKid | 08/02/04
Idiotically simple ideas shouldn't be patentable  Jomo_z | 08/03/04
Absolutely!!!!  coffeenite | 08/03/04
Prior Art  bc_bc | 08/03/04
Give me a break!  AbsolutelyNot | 08/02/04
I bet MS wouldn't be too thrilled...  four-eyes_z | 05/29/07
This patent infringes on all slideshow systems already in use. (NT)  Update victim | 08/02/04
Excuse me I'm just popping down to the patent office!  agottschald | 08/02/04
283 patents?  d_jedi | 08/01/04
Poor math. More like a hundred or so patents.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
the simple solution here...  ryusen | 08/02/04
Poor understanding...Please try again.  Mack DaNife | 08/02/04
You missed the point completely  d_jedi | 08/02/04
That's exactly what they don't want to do.  Anton Philidor | 08/02/04
Ignorance will slow adoption of Linux  d_jedi | 08/02/04
Any faster if many patent violations acknowledged?  Anton Philidor | 08/02/04
Don't need to fix them all at once..  d_jedi | 08/03/04
You do see the problem correctly now.  Anton Philidor | 08/03/04
However...  four-eyes_z | 05/29/07
Move  uno@... | 08/02/04
Escaping patents?  Anton Philidor | 08/02/04
Don't Buy It  jskline0@... | 08/05/04
Toto We're not in Kansas any more  Squawkbox | 08/01/04
I don't think so...  DarbyOhara | 08/02/04
I don't think so...  thetruth_z | 08/02/04
How silly...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
From who?  Mack DaNife | 08/02/04
I hope so  Loverock Davidson | 08/02/04
Maybe you shouldn't  AbsolutelyNot | 08/02/04
You got it!  nomorems | 08/02/04
A minor correction.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
I'm afraid you're right but I hope you are wrong.  Squawkbox | 08/02/04
They won't sue "Linux".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Patents != Copyrights  mlybbert | 08/02/04
it's a vicious circle....  ryusen | 08/02/04
Squash competition through litigation  robradina@... | 08/04/04
And Microsoft *DOES* infringe at least one  David Mohring | 08/02/04
When your OS sucks and is in trouble, shift attention somewhere else! (NT)  Loverock Davidson | 08/02/04
UM.. Lovey.. you just described Microsoft!  Xunil_Sierutuf | 08/02/04
And Linsux LOL ROFL LOLOLOLOL!  Loverock Davidson | 08/02/04
Loverock will you date me?  juliancat | 08/02/04
So, that exlains it  AmusedAtItAll | 08/02/04
Clue one: This is about LINUX infringing, not MS.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Who is this LINUX that is doing the infringing?  B.O.F.H. | 08/02/04
Was that another pathetic attempt at insult?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Oh, grasshopper  AmusedAtItAll | 08/02/04
Try again!  Mack DaNife | 08/02/04
The Thing Is  Hayvern | 08/02/04
I Think Not!  The King's Servant | 08/02/04
You don't have to buy SCO at all  uno@... | 08/05/04
The thing is:  AmusedAtItAll | 08/02/04
Ok Who Let the Troll Out Anyway  Hayvern | 08/04/04
"The holier than thou crowd"  Ole Man | 05/28/07
I'm not so sure  uno@... | 08/05/04
See a  ParadigmOdyssey | 08/02/04
Funny word "MAY" meaning "We don't know"  Laff | 08/02/04
Perhaps  PA-ITGuy | 08/02/04
Patents are often overly broad  uno@... | 08/05/04
May = Don't ask, don't tell.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
My point being.."IF" is see a guy driving a knife  Laff | 08/02/04
Re-read it again.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Read my post too Enterprise below...  Laff | 08/02/04
well put  johnnyu | 08/02/04
You obviously don't understand the court system.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Before that happens...something has to be proven  Laff | 08/02/04
Don't understand much of anything  johnnyu | 08/02/04
Ok, that's enough  AbsolutelyNot | 08/02/04
From you, yes it is.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
And history repeats itself  AmusedAtItAll | 08/02/04
I thought only lovesick was capable of making really stupid comments  AmusedAtItAll | 08/02/04
You are...  KOS-MOS | 08/03/04
May is perfectly legit  Mack DaNife | 08/02/04
Group: Linux potentially infringes 283 patents  Loverock Davidson | 08/02/04
Displaying your illiteracy again, eh?  Judas I. | 08/02/04
Eh!  Loverock Davidson | 08/02/04
So, am I to understand ...  Judas I. | 08/02/04
You don't understand  Loverock Davidson | 08/02/04
Okay, so go ahead ...  Judas I. | 08/02/04
"someone thats in the know, like me"  Ole Man | 05/28/07
Dangers  uno@... | 08/05/04
I just gotta ask  rlodge@... | 08/02/04
No do you?  Loverock Davidson | 08/02/04
Oh Rock, Rock, Rock...  The King's Servant | 08/02/04
Sorry  Loverock Davidson | 08/02/04
You had used the word 'perfect'  The King's Servant | 08/04/04
Never cease to be amazed  AmusedAtItAll | 08/02/04
The worm likes his compost  Ole Man | 05/28/07
283 Possible patent infringement - and that's just for the kernel  P. Douglas | 08/02/04
Promoting their business.  Anton Philidor | 08/02/04
Oh, you meant holders of the patents.  Anton Philidor | 08/02/04
Interesting example  AmusedAtItAll | 08/02/04
How about a little proof to back up your silly claims  AmusedAtItAll | 08/02/04
Okay, you win, no patent/copyright problems at all.  Anton Philidor | 08/03/04
283/2 means 141 are real problem.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Ouch, watch where you're slinging that FUD, Bitty!  Xunil_Sierutuf | 08/02/04
Not a bit of FUD anywhere.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Do you really want  johnnyu | 08/02/04
Would you folks stop with this silly "patent war"  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
IBM has more to lose...  OldeTimeGeek | 08/02/04
Hmmm, how many IBM PC's ship with Windows?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
you mean the monopoly desktop OS?  ryusen | 08/02/04
Bla, bla, bla  AmusedAtItAll | 08/03/04
Based upon what is in the article...  B.O.F.H. | 08/02/04
Nothig has to be proven. You have it backwards.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Wait a minute here...  Laff | 08/02/04
Actually, if one makes a claim or patent infringement?  B.O.F.H. | 08/02/04
Oh now that would be so cool.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
That will never happen...  Mack DaNife | 08/02/04
No one said close the compmany.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
The operative word is:  The King's Servant | 08/02/04
Don't argue  johnnyu | 08/02/04
Bzzzt  nomorems | 08/02/04
don't forget that...  ryusen | 08/02/04
More than that  none none | 08/02/04
Yeah, sure  lengua99 | 08/03/04
not even 141 are problems  Thyme | 08/02/04
Deja Vu all over again  AmusedAtItAll | 08/03/04
Woohoo!  ejhonda | 08/02/04
I'm sure all of MS' patents are invalid or prior art.  Xunil_Sierutuf | 08/02/04
One more time just for you. The article is about Linux, not MS.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Great....  Martin Marvinski | 08/02/04
and the article also mentions...  ryusen | 08/02/04
Another excellent example of how...  AmusedAtItAll | 08/03/04
Take a look...  el1jones | 08/02/04
So?  rapson | 08/02/04
How Much Stolen Code Does MS Have?  claytonmuhler | 08/02/04
Title Should Be...  supercharlie | 08/02/04
Sorry, yoiur wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
And then again...  LongShipUser | 08/02/04
oops,  LongShipUser | 08/02/04
Who are these "know nothing" people?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
As you yourself stated.."Looks like is NOT is" happy  Laff | 08/02/04
Looks has nothing to do with it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
They themselves say "May" not "is" so it looks  Laff | 08/02/04
No, common sense syas they can't ALL be wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
I have always found that waiting for the smoke  Laff | 08/02/04
And Nero fiddled while Rome burnt.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Well "if" he started it...might as well enjoy it:)  Laff | 08/02/04
Observation of the day  Anton Philidor | 08/02/04
Contradiction  tic swayback | 08/02/04
Tic..I meant post that is:)  Laff | 08/02/04
Anton..I'm all for PRE it's Post I have a problem with  Laff | 08/02/04
What are you talking about..  Patrick Jones | 08/02/04
As you yourself said...  el1jones | 08/02/04
re: Who are these "know nothing" people  Thyme | 08/02/04
How about who they are *not*  AmusedAtItAll | 08/03/04
Get ready to be SUED!!!  Enterprise. Analyst | 08/02/04
RE: Get Ready to be SUED!!!!  HypnoGoddess | 08/02/04
don't wait too long...  ryusen | 08/02/04
Not only a problem in free software  uno@... | 08/05/04
End of Linux = End of World  BJW_z | 11/18/04
Get ready to be SUED!!!  Enterprise. Analyst | 08/02/04
Same as for Loverock  rlodge@... | 08/02/04
** HE MENTIONED ME!!! **  Loverock Davidson | 08/02/04
Message has been deleted.  Enterprise. Analyst | 08/02/04
Try this  LongShipUser | 08/02/04
I don't think Linux nor Open Source in general  Laff | 08/02/04
Nice try, wrong but still nice.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
It happens everyday and still it is not a WAR..:)  Laff | 08/02/04
Why you are wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
I'm sooooo we are disagreeing again..whew!  Laff | 08/02/04
PATENT's don't lie but Distros and Vendors  Enterprise. Analyst | 08/02/04
We shall see...I'm betting no.  Laff | 08/02/04
Yeah, it feels good tro be home. wink  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Disagree  seosamh_z | 08/02/04
Which is why this is being brought to a head...  Laff | 08/02/04
Feel free to disagree, it doesn't matter.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
You MAY be right No AX hee hee hee, but that  Laff | 08/02/04
in this case... axy might be right.  ryusen | 08/02/04
Speaking of ignorant...  johnnyu | 08/02/04
And what percentage of users is that?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Servers will serve without you.  Anton Philidor | 08/02/04
Re: Why you are wrong.  none none | 08/02/04
the vast majority  ryusen | 08/02/04
SOMETHING IS FISHY  Protector | 08/02/04
The insurance isn't available yet.  Anton Philidor | 08/02/04
Trademark  The King's Servant | 08/02/04
Once it is known, the lawsuits WILL start  Enterprise. Analyst | 08/02/04
Does Linux innovate???  dvm | 08/02/04
Linux copies and steals  Enterprise. Analyst | 08/02/04
Does Linux innovate???  rkadowns | 08/02/04
Who cares?  Martin Marvinski | 08/02/04
Let's start with file systems.  The King's Servant | 08/02/04
Misleading Headline?  Yehuda Mann | 08/02/04
That's true, but...  rapson | 08/02/04
Not exactlly...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Who is sueing whom?  The King's Servant | 08/02/04
M$ supporters do not wish for what you might get  drichards1953 | 08/02/04
What competition to Microsoft is Linux?  Anton Philidor | 08/02/04
If so, then they to must pay up.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
How do the courts operate.  The King's Servant | 08/02/04
How can Linux not infringe on pattents?  zijiang | 08/02/04
Excellent point...  el1jones | 08/02/04
Silly reply.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Mindless  johnnyu | 08/02/04
To quote the article:  Michael Kelly | 08/02/04
And here is the difference...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Re: And here is the difference...  none none | 08/02/04
No, they don't...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Even "IF" what you say is true No AX then  Laff | 08/02/04
Re: No, they don't...  none none | 08/02/04
to none none...  Michael Kelly | 08/02/04
Re: To none none  none none | 08/02/04
But...  Michael Kelly | 08/02/04
Who needs distro's  nomorems | 08/02/04
Don't Linux companies earn money from services?  robradina@... | 08/04/04
Unless of course  rkadowns | 08/02/04
Removing offending code...  robradina@... | 08/04/04
Patents and IP  The King's Servant | 08/05/04
Exactly  johnnyu | 08/02/04
Exactlly wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Big assumption  rapson | 08/02/04
True  johnnyu | 08/02/04
I agree  rapson | 08/02/04
To take control from...  The King's Servant | 08/02/04
Follow up: Why buy Novel?  The King's Servant | 08/04/04
Carl, a suit isn't required.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
You're right  rapson | 08/02/04
True enough, I was looking at it from a different angle.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Re: True enough, I was looking at it from a different angle.  none none | 08/02/04
Re: Carl, a suit isn't required.  none none | 08/02/04
Nope  nomorems | 08/02/04
IBM to "go after" Linux?  Anton Philidor | 08/02/04
What about the small fella..  seosamh_z | 08/02/04
"Copying' is NOT "innovation".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
You really don't have a clue  johnnyu | 08/02/04
Programmers, anyone?  The King's Servant | 08/02/04
Ohh yes  johnnyu | 08/02/04
Totally missed the point  seosamh_z | 08/02/04
Re: "Copying' is NOT "innovation".  none none | 08/02/04
People, this is NOT about suing "Linux".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Sell?  johnnyu | 08/02/04
Sell, distribute, possess.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
More to prove  johnnyu | 08/02/04
Sorry, it's obvious you don't understand patents.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Re: Sell, distribute, possess.  none none | 08/02/04
"economic disturbances"  rapson | 08/02/04
Not at all  johnnyu | 08/02/04
The patent system  rkadowns | 08/02/04
Yes, at all.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
I agree to a point...  rapson | 08/02/04
Outstanding post ALL Linux supporters need to read.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
I also agree  johnnyu | 08/02/04
Oh man, now you did it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Re: "economic disturbances"  none none | 08/02/04
That depends..  Patrick Jones | 08/02/04
Yes and no.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
You missed the second point..  Patrick Jones | 08/02/04
Nope, that's where you are wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Reverse engineering...  LongShipUser | 08/02/04
Ask OMC (Outboard Marine Corporation)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Ask Microsoft..  Patrick Jones | 08/02/04
Yes, ask MS just how hard removing a patent is.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Oh please..  Patrick Jones | 08/02/04
Re: Oh please...  PA-ITGuy | 08/02/04
Your simple example  AbsolutelyNot | 08/02/04
You are arguing prior art...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
It doesn't always work that way  rkadowns | 08/02/04
Please explain  rkadowns | 08/02/04
Not communism...  The King's Servant | 08/02/04
"OSRM isn't releasing its list of patents."  BitTwiddler | 08/02/04
Ignorance is bliss.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
RE:  mdailey | 08/02/04
Almost right.  Anton Philidor | 08/02/04
Has NOTHING to do with the insurance company.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
"Where ignorance is bliss, ..."  Anton Philidor | 08/02/04
Only in the minds of the nay-sayers...  mdailey | 08/02/04
Or those with their heads in the sand.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
RE:  mdailey | 08/02/04
RE:  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
RE:  mdailey | 08/02/04
Again, your wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
LOL... you are clueless.  mdailey | 08/02/04
Yes, you are clueless.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Just for you mDaily...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
MS To File 3,000 Patents This Year  none none | 08/02/04
No argument there...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Why focus on MS?  rapson | 08/02/04
Boy, are you people really that blind?  Nightghaunt | 08/02/04
You have NO CLUE what PPF is.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Yup, you are blind!  Nightghaunt | 08/02/04
Buwahahaha  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Heh heh  Nightghaunt | 08/02/04
Ha Ha ha  lengua99 | 08/03/04
And, yes I do have a clue...  Nightghaunt | 08/02/04
You need more education it seems.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Oh?  Nightghaunt | 08/02/04
happy  Nightghaunt | 08/02/04
Re: And, yes I do have a clue...  none none | 08/02/04
This makes me wonder...  Omch'Ar | 08/02/04
Probably not  agottschald | 08/02/04
Can't be done  rkadowns | 08/02/04
An interesting point of view.  agottschald | 08/02/04
Capitals  rkadowns | 08/02/04
oF COURSE THEY ARE  jsjag1 | 08/02/04
US Patent Office at fault.  agottschald | 08/02/04
US  rkadowns | 08/02/04
Actually, it doesn't.  The King's Servant | 08/02/04
so many armchair lawyers  Iain_Peters | 08/02/04
Non-Profit... Riiiiiight.  Nightghaunt | 08/02/04
Amazing  rapson | 08/02/04
Um... no?  Nightghaunt | 08/02/04
A bit of clarification.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/02/04
Answer, no one,  rkadowns | 08/02/04
Please show us your law degree  Iain_Peters | 08/03/04
No Filters??  nomorems | 08/02/04
really  mrclean_z | 08/02/04
Selling snake oil.  supoman | 08/02/04
In your dreams  nograin | 08/02/04
Excellent point  The King's Servant | 08/02/04
To the artist formerly known as "Bit"  emartin_z | 08/02/04
Gee, you must be blind then.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/03/04
Patents are getting out of hand...  magusat999@... | 08/02/04
Ben Franklin would be rolling in his grave  daver_z | 08/02/04
Insurance Babble  axeman_smi | 08/03/04
Patent Right Infringements - nasty thought!  cblythsr | 08/03/04
That's the plan...  Omch'Ar | 08/03/04
Not obligation, just smart... then.  The King's Servant | 08/04/04
Microsoft will now rule stronger!  no_ax_to_grind_ | 08/03/04
Another idiot "fan' trying his best to be me.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/03/04
Original???  The King's Servant | 08/04/04
No_Ax_to_Grind get lost  trojanhorse | 08/03/04
Love and hating of an OS is for children.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/03/04
Objective look at Longhorn  The King's Servant | 08/04/04
RE: Love and hating of an OS is for children  Scrat | 08/05/04
A Question...  jcpwebman | 08/03/04
Copying another's works is NOT innovating.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/03/04
Patent Damages  jwaldron@... | 08/05/04

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