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I do owe you a correction....

1) That was a typo previously in the 80286... should be an 80386. It was so long ago that I do challenge my memory... it *MIGHT* just have been an 80286 as well... I will admit I cannot remember that detail.

2) VMS, is based on (we all know) elements of RT-11 and RSX-11M... From there, the the address extensions (hence VAX - 'Virtual Address eXtended") was run with primarily.


3) I have seen so many "new architectures" that I do honestly just shake my head at these proported "new concepts" which seem to have fallen from the sky. We have historically done best by learning from past mistakes... moving the blocks around... correcting the interconnect mistakes and come up with something better.

4) I've been around computers since the first HP programmable desktop calculator... (remember the number??), the PDP-8, the Prime 100, 200, etc.... and even the 8X300. Even the old GE-700 series and it's "Drum Storage".... (Remember those?)

I remember Dartmouth BASIC. I owned an ASR-33. I used to work with the very people who developed BASIC in Schenectady, NY on dedicated lines (YES, actual dedicated links) to Dartmouth.

The days when a personal computer with 8K or 16K was a big deal and expensive. I probably should throw out the punched tape and cards I have in a heap on the basement.. but it's fun to look back and see that the more things change, the more they stay the same..... (going off topic).. like the distributed computing (full desktop application), centralized computing (light-weight client), etc etc.... One big circle, around and around.


Lastly, I promise, from this point forward, never to write immediately after a day of working with the machines I do now (SGI/Cray Scaleable Supercomputers). We throw around Teraflops & Terabytes like nothing. I even think that the total storage we have in the server room is probably well into the multi-Pentabyte range serving rack after rack full of Onyx 350s & up, all linked together in a matrix.


I'm a dinosaur by comparison to many, and perhaps it's time to step back... That I will conceed. But the one thing I have( which COUNTLESS who blindly run their machines and not know how to use an O'scope to fix their machine, let alone what one is)....is the knowledge and experience gained from seeing the entire transformation from the days when "200 megahertz was an unbreakable barrier" (first broken by Semour Cray I believe) an having hand build entire CPUs on 9-U VME boards out of discrete components w/ microcode in prom.

The irony of it all.. the new generation says "get more memory" or "get a faster processsor"... We say "Go fix your code".

It's the 'changing of the guard'. But do remember that the engine in your car is nothing more than the result of the continued refinement of ONE orignal concept (unless you own a rotary or electric). Why should computers be any different?
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Small correction  michael-t | 07/27/04
I meant AMD64, but thanks for correction(NT)  Xunil_Sierutuf | 07/28/04
Yawn!  AbsolutelyNot | 07/27/04
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Ain't it intersting  Squawkbox | 07/28/04
Proof positive...  bjbrock | 07/27/04
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64-bit drivers...  prime21 | 07/28/04
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64-bit software  yu_forum@... | 05/25/07
64-bit software  yu_forum@... | 05/25/07
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well...  doh123 | 07/28/04
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New light...Intel & SCO?  techboy_z | 07/28/04
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abandoning the Itanium route???  PA-ITGuy | 07/28/04
Then again  johnnyu | 07/28/04
How old is the IA-64 and don't forget VME/VSB  clasher_z | 07/28/04
IA-64 == Alpha, VME == Hypertransport, ??? WTF  TerryC_z | 07/29/04
Hey... we're both on the AMD side  clasher_z | 07/29/04
agree with you  yu_forum@... | 05/25/07
IA-64 == Alpha, VME == Hypertransport, ??? WTF  TerryC_z | 07/29/04
Itanium  clasher_z | 07/29/04
Correction / addendum  clasher_z | 07/29/04
Credit where credit is due  TerryC_z | 07/30/04
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Win XP/2003 64 delay -- wonder why  clasher_z | 07/28/04
calm down?  lotta_anger | 07/29/04
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