Senator wants to ban P2P networks

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What???: "We have to understand that some people use P2P technology in ways that are wrong and illegal."
--Vermont's Patrick Leahy

Some people use guns in ways that are wrong and illegal. Where's the hue and cry to ban them?

Some people use cars in ways that are wrong and illegal. Where's the hue and cry to ban them?

Personally, I think we need to ban some of these idiots from Congress.; Posted by: ordaj@... Posted on: 07/22/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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is it bad to wish death on idiots like Orin Hatch?(NT) Monkey_MCSE | 07/22/04

Only if you use anything less than a pair of pliers and a blowtorch! Jeff Spicoli | 07/22/04

nope hmumm | 07/22/04

If we can't share, start shooting happy

cybershoplifter | 07/23/04

Ban by legislation or memo - Impossible bwills2w | 07/22/04

It's possible Seething Ganglia | 07/22/04

I suspect... Fred Fredrickson | 07/23/04

Fool me once Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/22/04

Missed that quote first time around GMTobias | 07/23/04

The best that money can buy auratum@... | 07/22/04

Ban p2p networks, like e-mail, IM, the internet tic swayback | 07/22/04

Well, for one thing.. JimSatterfieldW | 07/23/04

P2P for VOIP voska | 07/23/04

Apply your logic to cd burners tic swayback | 07/23/04

Not so... AbsolutelyNot | 07/23/04

RIAA Lies, CD Sales not hurt by filesharing tic swayback | 07/22/04

Focus on Quality... not Quantity. cchenoweth | 07/23/04

Software authors hurt more by shady businessmen than filesharers tic swayback | 07/22/04

that was a great aritcle... ryusen | 07/23/04

old Senators GET OUT! nograin | 07/22/04

What??? ordaj@... | 07/22/04

What does this mean for M$ Windows? GMTobias | 07/23/04

News groups voska | 07/23/04

From what I read voska | 07/23/04

The inducer in this case is not Microsoft GregSalts | 08/10/04

Can't please everyone? alterego_z | 07/22/04

Here is what bugs me buxxmaster | 07/22/04

they'll ban ecryption next...set your watch by it nograin | 07/22/04

Well, hell its only the BILL OF RIGHTS erichbf@... | 07/22/04

Niether Republicans OR Democrats buxxmaster | 07/23/04

Funny thing about the BILL OF RIGHTS... DigitalKid | 07/23/04

In name only AbsolutelyNot | 07/23/04

Any network? RicD_ | 07/22/04

Any network which does not impose DRM... Seething Ganglia | 07/22/04

lol userxp | 07/23/04

Who is the real owner of your computer? iberemoreiracampos@... | 07/26/04

So where does Usenet fit into this? Michael Kelly | 07/22/04

Usenet will go away... Seething Ganglia | 07/22/04

You're right... emartin_z | 07/23/04

Start a march...... Chipper1963 | 07/22/04

Animals' legal representatives Anton Philidor | 07/23/04

Animals' legal representatives Chipper1963 | 07/23/04

A government of laws Anton Philidor | 07/23/04

I don't need a permit to hunt and fish voska | 07/23/04

Glad there's some benefit... Anton Philidor | 07/23/04

Maybe... AbsolutelyNot | 07/23/04

Actually, march on the HOR or the Senate Building buxxmaster | 07/23/04

You're marching on the wrong target... ordaj@... | 07/23/04

Hatch is such an id10T Arrg | 07/22/04

If we can't share, start shooting! cybershoplifter | 07/23/04

And that is a GOOD thing ! realitycheck101 | 07/22/04

You're just the slime of the earth... cybershoplifter | 07/22/04

Yeah GMTobias | 07/23/04

Yup, Microsoft will go away because of this voska | 07/23/04

it took me a while, but i see your point... ryusen | 07/23/04

bribes or just another luditte?? lotta_anger | 07/22/04

Neither Anton Philidor | 07/23/04

Contact this guy & let him know what... bchesmer | 07/22/04

If not him, then... AbsolutelyNot | 07/23/04

senator has an eye on my wallet M_c | 07/23/04

How Much Money does the RIAA and MPAA put into this Senator's Pocket? Bill_gates_Is_SATAN | 07/23/04

I think a better question... Stellardyne | 07/23/04

soft money - what does the senator think of that abuse? V Sanders | 07/23/04

Hatch $159,860, Leahy $220,450 tic swayback | 07/23/04

What a CROCK! Bill_gates_Is_SATAN | 07/23/04

For real (links provided) tic swayback | 07/23/04

at last count $150,000... ryusen | 07/23/04

P2P is no Copyright Rally Cry ParadigmOdyssey | 07/23/04

If we can't share, start shooting happy

cybershoplifter | 07/23/04

I would be careful of what you say Bill_gates_Is_SATAN | 07/23/04

But It's The Truth!!! cbw_bird@... | 09/28/05

Bribery works wonders Amberhawk | 07/23/04

He wanted to share his craptastic music cybershoplifter | 07/23/04

Missing the point johnnyu | 07/23/04

Music has gone down hill voska | 07/23/04

Anyone who trully cares... bjbrock | 07/23/04

Hatch needs to be voted out BitTwiddler | 07/23/04

So how's the Senator propose to ban P2P networks running overseas? James T. Kirk | 07/23/04

Message has been deleted. Protector | 07/23/04

Peter Gabriel on the death of the RIAA tic swayback | 07/23/04

Microsoft's take Anton Philidor | 07/23/04

Straddling the line tic swayback | 07/23/04

Actually, march on the HOR or Senate building buxxmaster | 07/23/04

Baby and the bath water??? No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/23/04

We are standing up tic swayback | 07/23/04

I'd have a period if I lost internet for 1-5yrs cybershoplifter | 07/23/04

Sorry, no excuses allowed. No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/23/04

How would they stop you? voska | 07/23/04

You need more information to draw a conclusion Anton Philidor | 07/23/04

Both sides are being heard tic swayback | 07/23/04

Two out of three ain't good. Anton Philidor | 07/23/04

Right on the money tic swayback | 07/23/04

Hmmm, maybe, and sort of... No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/23/04

Nope, can't be the music's free alone, or ... Anton Philidor | 07/23/04

And why are CD sales increasing voska | 07/23/04

Has NOTHING to do with it. No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/23/04

what it has to do with... ryusen | 07/23/04

Posted in the wrong place voska | 07/23/04

Huh? tic swayback | 07/23/04

His point is correct. Anton Philidor | 07/23/04

It's actually stolen goods voska | 07/23/04

Careless language tic swayback | 07/23/04

Read "the first place" to be the provider of the download Anton Philidor | 07/23/04

Not in this case AbsolutelyNot | 07/23/04

Referring to a different thread? Anton Philidor | 07/23/04

DMCA does not prohib back ups voska | 07/23/04

Chance to find & hear new music, Then go out & buy the CD cbw_bird@... | 09/28/05

How about a graduated blackout? buxxmaster | 07/23/04

but... ryusen | 07/23/04

Actually it's a criminal level voska | 07/23/04

Why is congress frustrated?? voska | 07/23/04

Same reason as RIAA... Lack of control Anton Philidor | 07/23/04

But it still doesn't explain why voska | 07/23/04

Because that is their job. No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/23/04

Ah Ha! Got you! voska | 07/23/04

Not even close... No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/25/04

Major labels only put out low talents voska | 07/26/04

Here's a legal way to solve the p2p problem tic swayback | 07/23/04

With upload and download caps voska | 07/23/04

Consumers hurt by FilledOut | 07/23/04

BAN THE RIAA Bill_gates_Is_SATAN | 07/23/04

memo to Senator Hatch bybelknap | 07/23/04

Am I A Pirate? Should I Be In Jail? BlackDiamond | 07/23/04

Yes you are johnek_z | 07/23/04

Fuzzy area tic swayback | 07/23/04

Actually you can resell it voska | 07/23/04

Sorry, I wasn't clear tic swayback | 07/23/04

NP voska | 07/23/04

WONG, you don't get a license voska | 07/23/04

Yes you are, jail time no. No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/23/04

you're wrong and you know it... ryusen | 07/23/04

While you are not technically incorrect MEMSmaker | 07/23/04

Be more productive to say No_Ax is right Anton Philidor | 07/23/04

Not with fair use voska | 07/23/04

In your case you didn't pirate anything voska | 07/23/04

look up what piracy is in this case: ryusen | 07/23/04

Congressional record on what could be affected AbsolutelyNot | 07/23/04

Next Up : Ban IRC johnek_z | 07/23/04

US Copyright Office wants to outlaw the VCR tic swayback | 07/23/04

It's all about the money cchenoweth | 07/23/04

GOOD GRIEF! Of course it's abotu the money!!! No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/23/04

Whose money? tic swayback | 07/23/04

On that we agree. No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/23/04

Or the $250,000 campaign contribution voska | 07/23/04

my rant.... ryusen | 07/23/04

Scorched earth policy tic swayback | 07/23/04

i only wish... ryusen | 07/23/04

Bills related to computer usage AbsolutelyNot | 07/23/04

How will this bill jibe with the rest of the laws? AbsolutelyNot | 07/23/04

Let's ban cars too! fullebr@... | 07/23/04

Even if... DarthRidiculous | 07/24/04

P2P Minodier | 07/26/04

What a waste of time and money!!!! georgemd@... | 07/26/04

Is the sky the limit? strawbrn | 07/26/04

more fascist views from an american? disgustedofpurley | 08/18/04

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