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you miss the point
Ibm admits they contributed code

SCO argues by definition, that contribution violates the contract they have with IBM.

To support thier def of the contract they point out...

Liu v. Price Waterhouse LLP, 302 F.3d 749 (7th Cir. 2002),

Liu demonstrates that contractual language requiring the return of all the source code of a derivative
program is a sufficient basis for a jury to infer that the contract grants the full copyright in the
derivative work to the owner of the original work.

Liu is very different than thier contract but still... will it be enough to get it to a jury.

In the meantime, they say we need more info because if the jury decides our interpretation of the contract is correct, we need to be able to show exactly how IBM is non-literally infringing by contributing thier own home grown code or at least to show the extent which would likely factor in damages.

Can IBM contribute code that IBM writes to Linux (in light of their SysV license). That is the question. There is no question about proof of whether they have. IBM admits it.

What confuses me is why IBM can't but SCO says HP and SUN are clear without seeing any code. IBM raised that point. Why do they need to see our code to show we have when they say other companies haven't violated thier license without seeing that code.
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In other words  jdunn_z | 07/09/04
Flip the coin  Linux User 147560 | 07/09/04
RE:Flip the coin  nite_w0lf | 07/09/04
That is what I said  Linux User 147560 | 07/09/04
Is this the same SCO?  IT_User | 07/09/04
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Mike is right believe it or not...  sbj | 07/09/04
sorry...  sbj | 07/09/04
And this is dangerous how?  Linux User 147560 | 07/09/04
fantasy  sbj | 07/09/04
Actually, this is SCO Group  B.O.F.H. | 07/09/04
heh  CobraA1 | 07/11/04
The last chance to kill Linux.  Chris Moller | 07/12/04
8.0  UncleBubba | 07/12/04
the same SCO  cygnet@... | 07/11/04
News ZDNet kisses MS a##  Richard Flude | 07/09/04
This case must be heard...  Mike Cox | 07/09/04
This case must should be heard if...  sbj | 07/09/04
This case should be heard if...  sbj | 07/09/04
This case must be heard...  IT_User | 07/09/04
you miss the point  sbj | 07/09/04
re: This case must be heard  giltjr@... | 07/09/04
claims that SCO is making  sbj | 07/09/04
... Must be heard in order to CRUSH SCO  dicktaurus@... | 07/10/04
10+  nucrash | 07/12/04
Mikey your pathetic  drichards1953 | 07/12/04
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Mike Cox  Durok58 | 07/12/04
Great Scott!!!  UncleBubba | 07/12/04
The Article needs to ephasize  ryusen | 07/09/04
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messing up the terrorist's plans...  ryusen | 07/12/04
Re: messing up the terrorist's plans...  Linux_Developer | 07/12/04
re:  ryusen | 07/12/04
re (2):  Linux_Developer | 07/13/04
Correction  Linux_Developer | 07/13/04
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Our troops have fought the war on terror like nobody's business.  Laff | 07/13/04
re: re: (3.14)  ryusen | 07/13/04
Also...remember it is all too easy to say things like  Laff | 07/12/04
It would only be un-democratic if he CANCELED the elections.  Linux_Developer | 07/12/04
Um what Nuclear Weapons?  Laff | 07/12/04
One other thing I would have done....  Laff | 07/12/04
and how long can they be post poned?  ryusen | 07/12/04
Watch what you say  tic swayback | 07/12/04
you're wrong tic...  ryusen | 07/12/04
Oh crap.  tic swayback | 07/12/04
what has Michael Moore done that is anti-American?  ryusen | 07/12/04
Elections  mrlinux | 07/12/04
With the possible exception of a nation wide total disaster taking millions  Laff | 07/12/04
to be fair to the living...  ryusen | 07/12/04
True..but a nation wide stopage should not be considered!  Laff | 07/12/04
i agree with you on all points, but...  ryusen | 07/12/04
From a previous post....  Laff | 07/12/04
Who benefits?  tic swayback | 07/12/04
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both sides of the spin:  ryusen | 07/12/04
That's really the question  tic swayback | 07/12/04
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not just Bush...  ryusen | 07/12/04
Sorry but this is bugging the crap outta me...  Linux User 147560 | 07/12/04
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Re "not just Bush"  Laff | 07/13/04
understand...  ryusen | 07/13/04
AMEN..Brother ZZ, AMEN!  Laff | 07/13/04
Re: Al Qaeda wants Bush in office  Linux_Developer | 07/13/04
that would be the theory...  ryusen | 07/13/04
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fighting the source...  ryusen | 07/14/04
The first step to winning this war is respect and dignity.  Laff | 07/14/04
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of "coarse" *grin*  ryusen | 07/12/04
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ooops...  ryusen | 07/13/04
ZDNet is hopeless  Franklin_z | 07/10/04
But what about  Linux User 147560 | 07/10/04
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YEAH ZDNET IS SLANTED  ickusslime@... | 07/10/04
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(NT) www.groklaw.net - 'Nuff Said  BanjoPaterson | 07/11/04
(NT) Completely agree happy  CobraA1 | 07/11/04
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Who should provide what source code?  chug_z | 07/12/04
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