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Flip Flopper in Chief
Ah, the liberal media bias card. Can you provide any articles
from a "fair and balanced" news source showing that Kerry has
said anything false about Bush in his campaign ads? Didn't think
so. Your original post claimed he had nothing to run on except
BS, and interestingly enough, that appears to be the case for W.
75% of Bush's ads are negative smear attacks on Kerry. That's an
amazing number for an incumbent. Clearly, he has nothing
positive to say about his own record, otherwise he'd be
promoting that, rather than trying to smear his opponent.

---Kerry has a long history of saying one thing and acting/
voting differently---

Yeah, because Bush has never, ever done anything like that. Oh
wait,
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?
c=biJRJ8OVF&b=42263

President Bush: Flip-Flopper-In-Chief

1. OPEC


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BUSH PROMISES TO FORCE OPEC TO LOWER PRICES..."What I
think the president ought to do [when gas prices spike] is he
ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we
expect you to open your spigots...And the president of the
United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price."
[President Bush, 1/26/00]


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...BUSH REFUSES TO LOBBY OPEC LEADERS With gas prices
soaring in the United States at the beginning of 2004, the Miami
Herald reported the president refused to "personally lobby oil
cartel leaders to change their minds." [Miami Herald, 4/1/04]


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2. Iraq Funding


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BUSH SPOKESMAN DENIES NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR
THE REST OF 2004..."We do not anticipate requesting
supplemental funding for '04" [White House Budget Director
Joshua Bolton,?2/2/04]


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?BUSH REQUESTS ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR IRAQ FOR 2004 ?I am
requesting that Congress establish a $25 billion contingency
reserve fund for the coming fiscal year to meet all commitments
to our troops.? [President Bush, Statement by President, 5/5/04]


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3. Condoleeza Rice Testimony


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BUSH SPOKESMAN SAYS RICE WON'T TESTIFY AS 'A MATTER OF
PRINCIPLE'...?Again, this is not her personal preference; this goes
back to a matter of principle. There is a separation of powers
issue involved here. Historically, White House staffers do not
testify before legislative bodies. So it's a matter of principle, not
a matter of preference.?? [White House Press Secretary Scott
McClellan, 3/9/04]


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?BUSH ORDERS RICE TO TESTIFY: ?Today I have informed the
Commission on Terrorist Attacks Against the United States that
my National Security Advisor, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, will provide
public testimony.? [President Bush, 3/30/04]


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4. Science


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BUSH PLEDGES TO ISSUE REGULATIONS BASED ON SCIENCE..."I
think we ought to have high standards set by agencies that rely
upon science, not by what may feel good or what sounds good."
[then-Governor George W. Bush, 1/15/00]


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...BUSH ADMINISTRATION REGULATIONS IGNORE SCIENCE "60
leading scientists?including Nobel laureates, leading medical
experts, former federal agency directors and university chairs
and presidents?issued a statement calling for regulatory and
legislative action to restore scientific integrity to federal
policymaking. According to the scientists, the Bush
administration has, among other abuses, suppressed and
distorted scientific analysis from federal agencies, and taken
actions that have undermined the quality of scientific advisory
panels." [Union of Concerned Scientists, 2/18/04]


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5. Ahmed Chalabi


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BUSH INVITES CHALABI TO STATE OF THE UNION
ADDRESS...President Bush also met with Chalabi during his brief
trip to Iraq last Thanksgiving [White House Documents 1/20/04,
11/27/03]


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...BUSH MILITARY ASSISTS IN RAID OF CHALABI'S HOUSE"U.S.
soldiers raided the home of America's one-time ally Ahmad
Chalabi on Thursday and seized documents and computers."
[Washington Post, 5/20/04]


6. Department of Homeland Security


BUSH OPPOSES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY..."So,
creating a Cabinet office doesn't solve the problem. You still will
have agencies within the federal government that have to be
coordinated. So the answer is that creating a Cabinet post
doesn't solve anything." [White House spokesman Ari Fleischer,
3/19/02]


...BUSH SUPPORTS THE DEPARTMENT? OF HOMELAND SECURITY
"So tonight, I ask the Congress to join me in creating a single,
permanent department with an overriding and urgent mission:
securing the homeland of America and protecting the American
people." [President Bush, Address to the Nation, 6/6/02]


7. Weapons of Mass Destruction


BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS
DESTRUCTION..."We found the weapons of mass destruction. We
found biological laboratories?for those who say we haven't
found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons,
they're wrong, we found them." [President Bush, Interview in
Poland, 5/29/03]


...BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS
DESTRUCTION "David Kay has found the capacity to produce
weapons.?And when David Kay goes in and says we haven't
found stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the
weapons went. They could have been destroyed during the war.
Saddam and his henchmen could have destroyed them as we
entered into Iraq. They could be hidden. They could have been
transported to another country, and we'll find out." [President
Bush, Meet the Press, 2/7/04]


8. Free Trade


BUSH SUPPORTS FREE TRADE... "I believe strongly that if we
promote trade, and when we promote trade, it will help workers
on both sides of this issue." [President Bush in Peru, 3/23/02]


...BUSH SUPPORTS RESTRICTIONS ON TRADE "In a decision
largely driven by his political advisers, President Bush set aside
his free-trade principles last year and imposed heavy tariffs on
imported steel to help out struggling mills in Pennsylvania and
West Virginia, two states crucial for his reelection." [Washington
Post, 9/19/03]


9. Osama Bin Laden


BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE... "I want justice. And
there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead
or Alive.'" [President Bush, on Osama Bin Laden, 09/17/01]


...BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OSAMA ?I don't know where he
is.?You know, I just don't spend that much time on him? I truly
am not that concerned about him.??[President Bush, Press
Conference, 3/13/02]


10. The Environment


BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE... "[If
elected], Governor Bush will work to?establish mandatory
reduction targets for emissions of four main pollutants: sulfur
dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury and carbon dioxide." [Bush
Environmental Plan, 9/29/00]


...BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE "I do
not believe, however, that the government should impose on
power plants mandatory emissions reductions for carbon
dioxide, which is not a 'pollutant' under the Clean Air Act."
[President Bush, Letter to Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), 3/13/03]


11. WMD Commission


BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD
INTELLIGENCE FAILURE... "The White House immediately turned
aside the calls from Kay and many Democrats for an immediate
outside investigation, seeking to head off any new wide-ranging
election-year inquiry that might go beyond reports already being
assembled by congressional committees and the Central
Intelligence Agency." [NY Times, 1/29/04]


...BUSH SUPPORTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD
INTELLIGENCE FAILURE ?"Today, by executive order, I am creating
an independent commission, chaired by Governor and former
Senator Chuck Robb, Judge Laurence Silberman, to look at
American intelligence capabilities, especially our intelligence
about weapons of mass destruction." [President Bush, 2/6/04]


12. Creation of the 9/11 Commission


BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION...
"President Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe
Thursday to voice his opposition to establishing a special
commission to probe how the government dealt with terror
warnings before Sept. 11." [CBS News, 5/23/02]


...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11
COMMISSION "President Bush said today he now supports
establishing an independent commission to investigate the Sept.
11 terrorist attacks." [ABC News, 09/20/02]


13. Time Extension for 9/11 Commission


BUSH OPPOSES TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION...
"President Bush and House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) have
decided to oppose granting more time to an independent
commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks."
[Washington Post, 1/19/04]


...BUSH SUPPORTS TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION "The
White House announced Wednesday its support for a request
from the commission investigating the September 11, 2001
attacks for more time to complete its work." [CNN, 2/4/04]


14. One Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony


BUSH LIMITS TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF 9/11 COMMISSION TO
ONE HOUR... "President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney
have placed strict limits on the private interviews they will grant
to the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks,
saying that they will meet only with the panel's top two officials
and that Mr. Bush will submit to only a single hour of
questioning, commission members said Wednesday."? [NY Times,
2/26/04]


...BUSH SETS NO TIMELIMIT FOR TESTIMONY "The president's
going to answer all of the questions they want to raise. Nobody's
watching the clock." [White House spokesman Scott McClellan,
3/10/04]


15. Gay Marriage


BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do
what they want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue
like you're trying to get me into." [Gov. George W. Bush on Gay
Marriage, Larry King Live, 2/15/00]


...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING GAY
MARRIAGE "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass,
and to send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our
Constitution defining and protecting marriage as a union of man
and woman as husband and wife." [President Bush, 2/24/04]


16. Nation Building


BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending
our troops all around the world in nation-building missions,
then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the
road." [Gov. George W. Bush, 10/3/00]


...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING "We will be changing the
regime of Iraq, for the good of the Iraqi people." [President Bush,
3/6/03]


17. Saddam/al Qaeda Link


BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL
QAEDA AND SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda
and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror." [President
Bush, 9/25/02]


...BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've
had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept. 11."
[President Bush, 9/17/03]


18. U.N. Resolution


BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT... "No
matter what the whip count is, we're calling for the vote. We
want to see people stand up and say what their opinion is about
Saddam Hussein and the utility of the United Nations Security
Council. And so, you bet. It's time for people to show their cards,
to let the world know where they stand when it comes to
Saddam." [President Bush 3/6/03]


...BUSH WITHDRAWS REQUEST FOR VOTE "At a National Security
Council meeting convened at the White House at 8:55 a.m., Bush
finalized the decision to withdraw the resolution from
consideration and prepared to deliver an address to the nation
that had already been written." [Washington Post, 3/18/03]


19. Involvement in the Palestinian Conflict


BUSH OPPOSES SUMMITS... "Well, we've tried summits in the past,
as you may remember. It wasn't all that long ago where a
summit was called and nothing happened, and as a result we
had significant intifada in the area." [President Bush, 04/05/02]


...BUSH SUPPORTS SUMMITS "If a meeting advances progress
toward two states living side by side in peace, I will strongly
consider such a meeting.? I'm committed to working toward
peace in the Middle East." [President Bush, 5/23/03]


20. Campaign Finance


BUSH OPPOSES MCCAIN-FEINGOLD... "George W. Bush opposes
McCain-Feingold...as an infringement on free expression."
[Washington Post, 3/28/2000]


...BUSH SIGNS MCCAIN-FEINGOLD INTO LAW? "[T]his bill
improves the current system of financing for Federal campaigns,
and therefore I have signed it into law." [President Bush, at the
McCain-Feingold signing ceremony, 03/27/02]


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It's the sticker shock  PA-ITGuy | 07/06/04
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read first Jack@$$  JoeMama_z | 07/06/04
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I read it all, buddy boy  Jeff Spicoli | 07/06/04
Where did you get that i was dumbfounded?  JoeMama_z | 07/06/04
Real interesting thread.  ScarryJerry | 07/07/04
The problem for MS: Office Suites are now a comodity.  DonnieBoy | 07/07/04
Yes, but what do the masses need?? Do they need all that??  DonnieBoy | 07/06/04
Masses...  JoeMama_z | 07/06/04
Curious  IT_User | 07/07/04
Just make sure you don't use anything past Office2000  DonnieBoy | 07/07/04
Yes they need it, but it's not being delivered.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/07/04
Yes, pay $395 for an Office Suite, get free add-ons worth $10.  DonnieBoy | 07/07/04
All chrome, no chassis  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/07/04
but it just means MORE lock-in...  ryusen | 07/07/04
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YES  issthatso | 07/07/04
More in Office 2003  mabricen | 07/07/04
How about "Works with all the latest worms and viruses!" ??  Xunil_Sierutuf | 07/06/04
More like...The latest worms and viri work exclusively with MS!  Laff | 07/07/04
Let's face it MS wants to be the "only" player!  ajv123 | 07/07/04
MS  michael-t | 07/06/04
Lest we forget.  ajv123 | 07/07/04
Actually he  michael-t | 07/06/04
How about...  Hard Cider | 07/06/04
A better sales pitch??? Does he think customers are STUPID???  DonnieBoy | 07/06/04
Les' sell 'im the same 'ol swashbucklin' junk!!  Jeff Spicoli | 07/06/04
Yes, and further more  zijiang | 07/06/04
He has plenty of evidence  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/07/04
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But, they have to  Spoon Jabber | 07/07/04
Are you sure you typed the right name in there?  tic swayback | 07/07/04
Go to the source  Spoon Jabber | 07/07/04
Flip Flopper in Chief  tic swayback | 07/07/04
Attacking the messenger  tic swayback | 07/07/04
OK, let's simplify  Spoon Jabber | 07/07/04
Ridiculous  Jeff Spicoli | 07/07/04
RE: Spicoli  Spoon Jabber | 07/07/04
Right wing media bias  tic swayback | 07/07/04
Ridiculous Redux  tic swayback | 07/07/04
RE: Right Wing (Tic)  Spoon Jabber | 07/07/04
in that case...  ryusen | 07/07/04
RE: Rediculous (Tic)  Spoon Jabber | 07/07/04
emi-OT: Funny thing about the media...  ryusen | 07/07/04
Are you SERIOUS???  IT_User | 07/07/04
Anything in particular...  Spoon Jabber | 07/07/04
something in particular  tic swayback | 07/07/04
RE: Tic  Spoon Jabber | 07/07/04
Tic, are you "progressive"?  Spoon Jabber | 07/07/04
Jabber, are you reactionary?  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 07/07/04
Tic, I asked you first : )  Spoon Jabber | 07/08/04
Most of our founding farther's were Free Mason's  Laff | 07/08/04
Very good, Laff  Spoon Jabber | 07/08/04
For me it's simple...You have every right to believe as you will  Laff | 07/08/04
As do you Laff  Spoon Jabber | 07/08/04
Or how about these, Laff?  Spoon Jabber | 07/08/04
I think ground to it's finest level...My point is this  Laff | 07/08/04
Re As do yo Laff...If only I could believe that every conservative  Laff | 07/08/04
re: yoru tidbit...  ryusen | 07/07/04
Because  Spoon Jabber | 07/07/04
i don't fault your logic...  ryusen | 07/07/04
You are Wasting Your Time  bc_bc | 07/07/04
My views on life.....  Laff | 07/08/04
You have some good points Laff  Spoon Jabber | 07/08/04
I don't know if you read my post at the bottom of this thread but  Laff | 07/08/04
re: wasting time and liberals...  ryusen | 07/08/04
re: for the rest of you  ryusen | 07/08/04
Re ZZ  Laff | 07/08/04
Just to be clear to ZZ and Spoon..I do NOT hate Christians or Muslims  Laff | 07/08/04
Never thought you did  Spoon Jabber | 07/08/04
re: Laff and Spoon  ryusen | 07/08/04
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This seems to be a hard sell  jdunn_z | 07/06/04
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Microsoft's $56 billion is the stockholders' money?  PCcritic | 07/07/04
Yes, that's the way corporations work  IT_User | 07/07/04
RE:Yes, that's the way corporations work  nite_w0lf | 07/07/04
I started to go down that pth  IT_User | 07/07/04
He was correct the first time.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/07/04
It would go something like this:  BitTwiddler | 07/07/04
It's no longer about...  DB_z | 07/07/04
The problem for MS is that their past efforts paid off so well that  Laff | 07/07/04
A new mouse trap requires vison.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/07/04
Good point  DB_z | 07/08/04
Check out the free software sales pitch!  George Mitchell | 07/07/04
It's all about real value in the product.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/07/04
What exactly do you find missing in hardware innovation?  Michael Kelly | 07/07/04
Nothing innovative or world changing.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/07/04
Why does voice recognition have to be "all or nothing"?  Michael Kelly | 07/07/04
Win XP indeed does have it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/07/04
Wow, Axey, I'm impressed ...  Judas I. | 07/07/04
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Yes and no...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/07/04
NOT AGAIN!!! I'm agreeing with NO AX again!  Laff | 07/07/04
wink  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/07/04
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Simply not true.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/07/04
Ax---you frighten me, I agree. Is the world ending?  drichards1953 | 07/08/04
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No, but they do understand  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/07/04
Nail on the head! But you forgot one.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/07/04
Well, then, they don't have a solution!  mgardner | 07/08/04
But they do understand zero sum games...  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 07/07/04
Have to disagree on that.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/07/04
M$ lost---yep!  drichards1953 | 07/08/04
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Office 97  Pinkerton | 07/07/04
depluy your talents MS  pj-xmesh | 07/07/04
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WRONG, Ballmer. YOU NEED QUALITY  martyj | 07/07/04
"Good Enough"  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/07/04
So whatever happened to OpenDoc?  bill@... | 07/07/04
hey Steve...  ryusen | 07/07/04
Does this mean...  bill@... | 07/07/04
Who'd have thought that an OS Service Pack...  bill@... | 07/07/04
MS needs a hair transplant  bybelknap | 07/07/04
What Microsoft really needs...  Motu | 07/07/04
Slogan: "Pay Up -- Or Else!"  ab8kf@... | 07/07/04
Awaiting the short, sharp shock...  boomslang_z | 07/07/04
Wrong.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 07/07/04
MS needs Lower Prices...not new sales pitch  miwin1000@... | 07/08/04
Wow! Spoon Jabber and bc_bc really kicked it into gear.  Laff | 07/08/04
Well, it's actually...  Spoon Jabber | 07/08/04
Sorry..old age setting in:)  Laff | 07/08/04
I miss Novell 4.x  drichards1953 | 07/08/04
Flaws in Explorer  coltkid | 07/08/04
What this really means!  NT Admin | 07/08/04

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