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Uh huh
"Flaws found.. fixed quickly..

There's no security by obscurity here!"

One small problem. Despite CVS being open source these vulnerabilities have just now been found. How old is CVS? How many eyeballs have actually looked at the code?

While I do agree looking back through the code (auditing) is valuable, I have a problem with the blithe assumption that such audits are done routinely *in any code base*, open or closed.

The truth is, if code works it's forgotten about. The very natural "if it isn't broke don't fix it" mentality takes over. After all, it seems counter-productive to go back and look at code that's working, right?

Whether CVS, Office, Linux, KDE, Mac OS/X or Windows of whatever flavor, bugs will exist. They will remain undetected until somebody has the will to mount a serious search.

The truth is, few people have the will. Fewer still have the skill. And almost nobody is willing to pay the bill.

I can guarantee the only OS out there that has a remote chance of being free of security flaws is Secure BSD--and that's only because they make a religion of it.

Everybody else tries, of course. But the nature of programming is such that nobody's going to find everything--even everything that should be obvious.

This p****ing match between the open source and proprietary software crowds does nothing productive. There's a *reason* that security specialists exist. Security is *difficult*, coding is hard enough, and all the best practices in the world won't close all the holes.

Live with it.
Posted by: wolf_z   Posted on: 06/10/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Exceeding expectations  Martin Marvinski | 06/09/04
You sound a bit defensive  mojoman_x@... | 06/09/04
What?!  Jeff Spicoli | 06/09/04
crimes  richhayes | 06/10/04
crimes  georgep_z | 06/10/04
Ummm.... ?  Martin Marvinski | 06/09/04
Way to spin the story.  ShadeTree | 06/10/04
But what you forget to mention.  nucrash | 06/10/04
What in the world....  ShadeTree | 06/10/04
Simple  nucrash | 06/10/04
So in response....  ShadeTree | 06/10/04
Why respond to your post?  Martin Marvinski | 06/10/04
Thanks for adding to the FUD  rock06r | 06/10/04
Whats a "M$ shills"  Da-Man | 06/10/04
No it is definitely Shill  ShadeTree | 06/10/04
Nice spin...  Martin Marvinski | 06/10/04
I would agree except...  ShadeTree | 06/11/04
From the home page of the CVS Project site.  ShadeTree | 06/10/04
seems like  doh123 | 06/10/04
If you have access....  ShadeTree | 06/10/04
Code on CVS has official maintainer(s)  Michael Kelly | 06/10/04
Only official maintainers are supposed...  ShadeTree | 06/10/04
Internet ?? WWW  Michael Kelly | 06/10/04
I have confused nothing  ShadeTree | 06/10/04
From the CVS Project web site  ShadeTree | 06/10/04
RE: From the CVS Project web site  Michael Kelly | 06/10/04
Obviously the CVS site must not be secure.  ShadeTree | 06/10/04
More proof open source works.. and quickly!  Xunil_Sierutuf | 06/09/04
Uh huh  wolf_z | 06/10/04
wolf: Don't reply to this SHRILL above  Da-Man | 06/10/04
Do you even know what the term refers to?  rock06r | 06/10/04
Alternatives?  doe_z | 06/09/04
CVS alternatives  Chris Moller | 06/10/04
(NT)The VPN method is a good idea  toadlife | 06/09/04
More flaws foul security of open-source repository  Loverock Davidson | 06/10/04
Loverock's pick  dwest_z | 06/10/04
How sweet!  Loverock Davidson | 06/10/04
linux what?  ryusen | 06/10/04
If they could just deliver a secure OS without bugs.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/10/04
Yeah, Zealots are like flaws  nucrash | 06/10/04
Touch?  Michael Kelly | 06/10/04
Meh,  nucrash | 06/10/04
Good idea, just wrong phrase  rock06r | 06/10/04
OS? what?  doh123 | 06/10/04
Still it's a security flaw that could breach OS code  Michael Kelly | 06/10/04
If they could just deliver a secure OS without bugs.  Loverock Davidson | 06/10/04
Close the door on 'free' non-professional software  Andreas_Gruenbaum | 06/10/04
Bigger priorities  Michael Kelly | 06/10/04
This problem is being addressed in SP2.(nt)  ShadeTree | 06/10/04
Good. I wish them luck. (nt)  Michael Kelly | 06/10/04
Check out: http://www.ghs.com  Da-Man | 06/10/04
Just a clue...  Linux User 147560 | 06/10/04
Should be: Close the door on non-professional software.  doe_z | 06/10/04
Zdnet, you're posters have warned you about  FilledOut | 06/10/04
There's always SecurID ...  George Mitchell | 06/10/04

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