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Now you're arguing in bad faith.
At least have the integrity to try to defend the argument I'm
criticizing--or are you too dim to remember what you said?

You said, "If Java is open sourced, MS can write a bunch of stuff
specifically for Windows, Java.Net for instance..."

I responded to that point--that they could NOT release
something called "Java.Net" because Sun still holds the
copyright for the name "Java." I rebutted your argument, you
see, which means you are WRONG!

Now you're offering the rejoinder that they could call it
something different. Well DUHHH! That was my point, moron.
They can't use the name Java. They could write something
similar to Java and call it something else. In fact, they already
have. It's called .Net. It's their Windows-only version of Java. And
it is called something else. Not Mava, not Bava, not even Sumatra
or Borneo. And they didn't even have to wait for Sun to make
Java open source.
Posted by: Immanuel Tranz-Mischen   Posted on: 06/05/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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And this pays the stockholders how?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/04/04
Sun really just sells hardware  Rembrandt Pussyhorse | 06/04/04
Same way they get cash from OOo  nucrash | 06/04/04
think investors would come if  V Sanders | 06/04/04
Yes  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/04/04
I don't plan to invest  V Sanders | 06/06/04
Sorry, but it hasn't worked for them yet.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/04/04
care to describe how closed source has helped them?  oldskool | 06/04/04
Solaris is free???? Not anywhere I can see.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/06/04
They are giving it away for free right now.  DonnieBoy | 06/04/04
Maybe that's the problem  seosamh_z | 06/04/04
No, the problem is...  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/04/04
That's not the way it works  seosamh_z | 06/05/04
I already explained that.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/05/04
Doesn't make it any more correct  seosamh_z | 06/05/04
Open source Java would rule...  prime21 | 06/04/04
I do worry about incapatabilities  nucrash | 06/04/04
that is the best part  V Sanders | 06/04/04
then again  V Sanders | 06/04/04
..would rule Java  seosamh_z | 06/04/04
Alternative implementations drive progress, single source stagnates ideas  oldskool | 06/04/04
Don't think it's so black and white  seosamh_z | 06/04/04
innovation by a more understood name is PROTECTIONISM  oldskool | 06/04/04
Don't be silly  seosamh_z | 06/05/04
Not according to Scott's latest response  Iain_Peters | 06/04/04
next announcement will be they open sourced Scott!  oldskool | 06/04/04
what?  V Sanders | 06/04/04
The battle with Microsoft was to stop MS from polluting it...  Plain Logic | 06/04/04
How would that work now?  seosamh_z | 06/04/04
Did I miss something?  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/04/04
Yes  seosamh_z | 06/05/04
Now you're arguing in bad faith.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/05/04
You live up to my expectation of you  seosamh_z | 06/05/04
no  V Sanders | 06/06/04
You Are Correct  P. Douglas | 06/05/04
Damn, I was going to say that happy (NT)  seosamh_z | 06/05/04
Well stated  rapson | 06/05/04
You are incorrect.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/05/04
Be Careful How You Bend Your Perspective  P. Douglas | 06/07/04
(Reposting Message Because of Links)  P. Douglas | 06/07/04
If you can't compete against MS, hitch a ride on the OSS choo choo train ..  P. Douglas | 06/04/04
That IS how to compete with Microsoft.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/05/04
That's not outsmarting anybody  seosamh_z | 06/06/04
Once again, you're just arguing against your own straw man.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/06/04
Whatever you say.  seosamh_z | 06/06/04
Oooh, someday  FilledOut | 06/05/04
Yes, just hand it over to IBM. NOT!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/06/04
I used to love  V Sanders | 06/06/04

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