Is Torvalds really the father of Linux?

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Journalism?: That is rare these days. Even saying that it is "terrible journalism" is pushing it.

No, we haven't had alot of real journalism for a long time. It wasn't that long ago that reporters would not even use the he said/she said angle in their reporting, but they would actually dig up the facts and.....how shall I put this....REPORT!

I can't remember exactly, but wasn't there such a thing as code of conduct for journalists? (I would say ethics, but ethics are based on choice)

And it wasn't all about sensationalism, but rather actual factual reporting.

Oh well, this and many other things have taken a back seat, or even a trunk seat, to the $.; Posted by: Spoon Jabber Posted on: 05/20/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Monopoly money legislation? natbrown | 05/19/04

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Now that would be a shame NemesisNL | 05/20/04

Journalism? Spoon Jabber | 05/20/04

real reporting dwest_z | 05/20/04

analogies dwest_z | 05/20/04

ZD Net's owner is CNET mint_z | 05/20/04

MS tries yet another angle with their FUD, falls flat as usual. Spam-ZD | 05/19/04

How is it Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt??? No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

Here's the FUD j.m.galvin | 05/20/04

Sorry, I still don't see it. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

well... NemesisNL | 05/20/04

Schrodingers cat. agottschald | 05/21/04

After long and careful consideration, Spin_Masterz | 05/20/04

to late NemesisNL | 05/20/04

in relation to the SCO case mainly... ryusen | 05/20/04

Tanenbaum Responds: Linus Wrote Linux sbj | 05/19/04

Linus Wrote Linux agottschald | 05/21/04

Is he really the father of ???????? dingdong_z | 05/20/04

Nope Not average Joe | 05/20/04

easier to steal US IP NemesisNL | 05/20/04

Brown hasn't got a clue dwest_z | 05/20/04

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Yes NemesisNL | 05/20/04

no thats pigs Hanover Phist | 05/20/04

Debunked by developer Minix!!!!!! cuboctahedron2004 | 05/20/04

Tanenbaum is at least the godfather of Linux mjsadaway | 05/20/04

ofcourse he was influenced NemesisNL | 05/20/04

re: regrets ryusen | 05/20/04

Agreed bhushanaher@... | 05/20/04

Why? Patrick Jones | 05/20/04

Not sure if he wants any credit linkki_ | 05/20/04

Just because it is hard for you to believe.. Patrick Jones | 05/20/04

And he did nucrash | 05/20/04

Actually, its more like... doe_z | 05/20/04

German court enforces GPL PCcritic | 05/20/04

Bill Gates recommends doing it ! mw_phil | 05/20/04

that's a cover story for the truth ... its much darker ... oldskool | 05/20/04

key source claims Alexis de Tocqueville I. author ignorant on Unix history duncanrobertson | 05/20/04

reminds me of a certain ZD author's style of analysis oldskool | 05/20/04

Good read, of course... el1jones | 05/20/04

Never mind the other OS NemesisNL | 05/20/04

i dunno... ryusen | 05/20/04

Thinktanks don't think - they validate views TrustMe_z | 05/25/04

What A Crock! markdoiron | 05/20/04

Correct me if I'm wrong dydamiano@... | 05/24/04

For the proper funding... sbenson@... | 05/20/04

What is inventing? tero_t_vaananen@... | 05/20/04

Minix not the source amicus_curious | 05/20/04

Ok, ya have to wonder who championed... BitTwiddler | 05/20/04

it seems to be about clouding the pedigree (legal FUD) oldskool | 05/20/04

Ya and I'm sure Gates never based anything Arrg | 05/20/04

This is not even worthy of coverage nucrash | 05/20/04

Actually, I enjoyed reading it. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

It was a great piece of half-truths nucrash | 05/20/04

I think you sell people short. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

Do the research!!!!! nucrash | 05/20/04

*Claims* vs. common sense. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

Are you calling a well respected professor a liar? NemesisNL | 05/20/04

what common sense does his claim go coutner to? ryusen | 05/20/04

Null and Void what I say for the day nucrash | 05/20/04

Me too! bchesmer | 05/20/04

Amazing jdunn_z | 05/20/04

Alexis de Tocqueville Institution Fairly Conservative Think Tank royceLcrocker@... | 05/20/04

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It's the ancient struggle... Omch'Ar | 05/20/04

Money rules... NefNef | 05/23/04

LOL, I can't believe ZDNet published this! Xunil_Sierutuf | 05/20/04

Wrong headline Tim Patterson | 05/20/04

Truely Humerous Fred Fredrickson | 05/20/04

Very interesting, and yes it's possible. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

I believe he did it by himself. Patrick Jones | 05/20/04

You make my point nicely. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

How? Patrick Jones | 05/20/04

I see nothing in the article suggesting... No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

Here you go... el1jones | 05/20/04

I see nothing wrong with that. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

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Hey, You asked.... el1jones | 05/20/04

How about.. Patrick Jones | 05/20/04

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Nope, sorry quietLee | 05/20/04

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"the study" is wrong azurensis | 05/20/04

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And Billy Bob Gates and M$ have NEVER stolen code, and then bouth it? drichards1953 | 05/20/04

been there done that !! DevilsAdvocado | 05/21/04

Wrong azurensis | 05/21/04

Specifications azurensis | 05/20/04

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To clarify. doe_z | 05/20/04

i think you're missing a few points: ryusen | 05/20/04

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I do CO_TechGuy | 05/20/04

MS pays Browns salary TrustMe_z | 05/25/04

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Link. Interesting reading Tim Patterson | 05/20/04

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Tim, do you have an answer? No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

Did you even bother to read Tanenbaum's comments yourself? NemesisNL | 05/20/04

Yes I did. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

Yes NemesisNL | 05/20/04

You really are confused aren't you? No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

why don't you just answer the post NemesisNL | 05/20/04

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Didn't see a question? NemesisNL | 05/20/04

do you mean MS patents of the CP/M filesystem (FAT) B.O.F.H. | 05/21/04

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You picked the topic Tim... No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

Defend the indefensible Tim Patterson | 05/20/04

Ah, now you are changing the subject. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

Answer the question Bit Tim Patterson | 05/20/04

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I'll help you. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

He was talking about the idotic claims about linux heritage NemesisNL | 05/20/04

Tim, your turn. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

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I somewhat agree.. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

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Go to bed trojanhorse | 05/20/04

Patent issue agottschald | 05/21/04

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Patent Idea vgrig | 05/20/04

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He's a coward a yells fire in a theatre trojanhorse | 05/20/04

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See the tip of your nose? Mike (not Cox) | 05/20/04

Windows, Apple, Linux all based on something prior FilledOut | 05/20/04

100% SPOT ON!!! No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

Raises a question Update victim | 05/20/04

And another question Spoon Jabber | 05/21/04

Few questions for Linus gabriele@... | 05/20/04

Throwing mud. Anton Philidor | 05/20/04

Nice bit of FUD you've tossed out. Cardinal_Bill | 05/20/04

Dung prodding Anton Philidor | 05/20/04

Let's just agree to disagree. Cardinal_Bill | 05/20/04

What differences? Anton Philidor | 05/20/04

And who are the others funded by? Spoon Jabber | 05/21/04

True Patrick Jones | 05/20/04

True NemesisNL | 05/20/04

Bill Gate STOLE DOS So What RobertoSalazar | 05/20/04

You of course can prove that, right? No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

He doesn't have to NemesisNL | 05/20/04

Pardon me???? No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

Read your posts on this forum. NemesisNL | 05/20/04

You read them... No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

Yes NemesisNL | 05/20/04

Never going to happen... No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

Oh yes, and as to where MSDOS came from. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

yeah right NemesisNL | 05/20/04

Since you used my research legwork ratherthan looking for youself! B.O.F.H. | 05/21/04

RE: He doesn't have to Iain_Peters | 05/20/04

This history of DOS is too well known for this debate wresnick | 05/21/04

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Yup, $30K was the reported figure. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/04

QDOS (from Seattle Computer Products) went for $50K B.O.F.H. | 05/20/04

Interesting Histories . . . PCcritic | 05/21/04

lawsuit CO_TechGuy | 05/21/04

I was merely correcting the amount figure. B.O.F.H. | 05/21/04

That they did... Cardinal_Bill | 05/20/04

Don't think so IT_User | 05/20/04

I hate defending Gates or Microsoft but, Update victim | 05/20/04

More sensational BS michael-t | 05/20/04

YES, he IS, read, what Tanenbaum says Solid Water | 05/20/04

According to the author of Minix oldfrog | 05/20/04

More Microsoft and SCO nonsense. Uncoveror | 05/20/04

Development Time Frame gilgamesh_z | 05/20/04

Time Correction gilgamesh_z | 05/20/04

Well, I'm convinced none none | 05/20/04

M$ in bed with ZDNet trojanhorse | 05/20/04

? no_ax_to_grind_ | 05/20/04

I love Microsoft no_ax_to_grind_ | 05/20/04

Gates is greedy haveolho | 05/21/04

Ignore the Man Behind the Curtain darguz | 05/21/04

And Then PCcritic | 05/21/04

Not True : ATTN ZDNET Editors SteveProgrammer | 05/21/04

How fast can you code? wresnick | 05/21/04

Who cares. dabx@... | 05/21/04

better question is this mrclean_z | 05/21/04

all code is binary zero and one BarbieLee | 05/21/04

Wow, this created world peace FilledOut | 05/21/04

If a novice can do better than a pro, what does that say? NefNef | 05/23/04

A simple challenge: produce just one line of illegal code paulgtaylor | 07/21/04

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