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IBM. HP, Intel, AMD, Sun and others can jump & CAN MARKET: And every one of the above is behind Linux on the desktop
with major funding, just as they're behind it on servers.

When's the last time that you heard any of the above
touting the wonders of Windows? It was a long time ago.
IBM and HP, especially, have been pushing Linux on the
server like crazy.

When these outfits think that desktop Linux is ready, you
will see marketing campaigns similar to the ones they ran
for Linux on servers. The campaigns will be run by
marketing people, not geeks.; Posted by: j.m.galvin Posted on: 04/30/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Linux still a way to go. keith.sloan | 04/30/04

You are not the target market j.m.galvin | 04/30/04

You hit some of the Reason I still run Windows 2K voska | 04/30/04

You are exactly right, consumers will be the last to switch. DonnieBoy | 04/30/04

Disagree paman57@... | 05/03/04

Re: Linux Still has a way to go dougN | 05/03/04

Good enough...is issthatso | 04/30/04

Business first, Then home SC-man | 04/30/04

Exactly... prime21 | 04/30/04

The future looks bright with FREEdom Xunil_Sierutuf | 04/30/04

Don't you wish! StorageGuru | 04/30/04

Being the rich means hiring the best PR people you can! Xunil_Sierutuf | 04/30/04

Robber barons are people, too. Anton Philidor | 04/30/04

"Good Enough" has ben good enough for Microsoft. casbo | 04/30/04

Good Enough was good enough StorageGuru | 04/30/04

did ya hear about the new marketing campaign - open an account and get a PC oldskool | 04/30/04

Where did you get that? StorageGuru | 04/30/04

Not to mention... ShadeTree | 04/30/04

What Games? voska | 04/30/04

XP is pushing me to Linux voska | 04/30/04

Thank you RedHat9User | 04/30/04

And yuo clim to know something about Windows??? No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

I don't have turn off Wizards in Linux voska | 04/30/04

Wizards PA-ITGuy | 04/30/04

Yeah, uhh, ooooooookay... | 04/30/04

Yes, some will not switch until there are more apps. DonnieBoy | 05/01/04

White men can't jump StorageGuru | 04/30/04

True, but.... NemesisNL | 04/30/04

Don't speak too soon doctormoriarty | 04/30/04

Who's gonna pay? StorageGuru | 04/30/04

Companies still train employees doctormoriarty | 04/30/04

Really? Linux User 147560 | 04/30/04

Training? NemesisNL | 05/01/04

Message has been deleted. | 04/30/04

IBM. HP, Intel, AMD, Sun and others can jump & CAN MARKET j.m.galvin | 04/30/04

J.M. you win the spot on prize of the day Squawkbox | 04/30/04

Actually, B. Gates had squat to do with mainframe downfall j.m.galvin | 04/30/04

Correction (of somebody) Anton Philidor | 04/30/04

Your conclusion is correct IT_User | 04/30/04

check your facts ... Gates did little to make PC buisness ready oldskool | 04/30/04

Oh yeah - one more thing, MS was an APPLE vendor oldskool | 04/30/04

You guys forgot CPM, ConCurrent DOS.. zackszoo | 04/30/04

Gates Quote SC-man | 04/30/04

Where did you see that? StorageGuru | 04/30/04

Try this j.m.galvin | 04/30/04

tried it eLurker | 04/30/04

Don't look now StorageGuru | 04/30/04

You guys are arguing past one another IT_User | 04/30/04

Thanks j.m.galvin | 04/30/04

Right attack, wrong target Anton Philidor | 04/30/04

False statement NemesisNL | 05/01/04

They are NOT marketing end user systems! balsover | 04/30/04

Whoever is telling you about business IT_User | 04/30/04

re: huge retraining costs... ryusen | 04/30/04

Before you can plug a hole, you have to build... No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

As if Windows is a proper container Grimm Reaper | 04/30/04

Which is it that you hate? RedHat9User | 04/30/04

Message has been deleted. Xunil_Sierutuf | 04/30/04

Huh RedHat9User | 04/30/04

Violated the rules.. No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Gotcha RedHat9User | 04/30/04

LOL, well you didn't deny the Bill G. blowup doll Xunil_Sierutuf | 04/30/04

plugging holes eLurker | 04/30/04

see now that was funny .) ryusen | 04/30/04

We need enought apps to get a critical mass. DonnieBoy | 04/30/04

And only after that will I switch zijiang | 04/30/04

Yes, consumers will be the last to switch. DonnieBoy | 04/30/04

Bruce - Dump your Windows box Eggs Ackley_z | 04/30/04

Don't give people what they want - tell them they're stupid! archerjoe | 04/30/04

Better yet: wploger | 04/30/04

Accountant SC-man | 04/30/04

cost/benifit? ryusen | 04/30/04

IE only Just Me_z | 04/30/04

Switch the User Agent Yagotta B. Kidding | 04/30/04

Plugging the Linux holes Loverock Davidson | 04/30/04

Flimsy argument Michael Kelly | 04/30/04

Confused- Quicken on Windows??? wploger | 04/30/04

Get on board... Chad_z | 04/30/04

Another Reason NOT TO BUY LINUX RobertoSalazar | 04/30/04

All right Roberto... wploger | 04/30/04

Your visionary, McBride, just went blind.... Spam-ZD | 04/30/04

Go to bed and no internet for you! trojanhorse | 04/30/04

Who uses cheques anymore? voska | 04/30/04

missing the point dabrooks | 04/30/04

Probably a losing battle RedHat9User | 04/30/04

You're right. Anton Philidor | 04/30/04

can't comment RedHat9User | 04/30/04

Support by forum Anton Philidor | 04/30/04

Support by forum Spam-ZD | 04/30/04

"Facts" to fit Anton Philidor | 04/30/04

What A Load That Was nikoli | 04/30/04

reread RedHat9User | 04/30/04

Smart custodial engineers Anton Philidor | 04/30/04

Yeah Okay mudfoot | 05/02/04

d be much happier if Linux would try to find its own path wploger | 04/30/04

Why do they have to FOLLOW anyone? No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Answer: It just makes sense voska | 04/30/04

Ease of Use is good RedHat9User | 04/30/04

Be more specific. Spam-ZD | 04/30/04

Get Real Spam Man nikoli | 04/30/04

Not really... No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Think that's what he's suggesting? IT_User | 04/30/04

A second place follower is okay though? tic swayback | 04/30/04

It's really about commoditization, but you deny that, Micro$hill. dicktaurus@... | 04/30/04

Why do they have to FOLLOW anyone? Spam-ZD | 04/30/04

What a silly and useless post. No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Wow, you mean you had no adequate response to Spam-ZD, huh? dicktaurus@... | 04/30/04

Maybe, but you post is just plain useless Spam-ZD | 04/30/04

Didn't use the word follow... wploger | 04/30/04

I agree with you. No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

You're missing very large market segments j.m.galvin | 04/30/04

The double edged sword! George Mitchell | 04/30/04

One problem RedHat9User | 04/30/04

On moving ahead j.m.galvin | 04/30/04

I don't quite agree... Linux_Developer | 04/30/04

short term thinking zijiang | 04/30/04

George, you forget patents. No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Adobe faces bigger obstacles j.m.galvin | 04/30/04

Bigger PDF problem: it reeks Anton Philidor | 04/30/04

You're not using it correctly j.m.galvin | 04/30/04

Partly affirm Anton Philidor | 04/30/04

Here's a recent example j.m.galvin | 04/30/04

MS hopes to survive on patents? Spam-ZD | 04/30/04

Head, meet the sand... No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

A dose of reality IT_User | 04/30/04

You aren't looking at the real picture. No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

And just who are the contributors? IT_User | 04/30/04

So they can't copy it... Linux User 147560 | 04/30/04

Patents are a double edged sword ... George Mitchell | 04/30/04

Agree and disagree j.m.galvin | 04/30/04

Re: Agree and disagree George Mitchell | 04/30/04

New Advertising Slogan zijiang | 04/30/04

I ask an honest question. No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Ok RedHat9User | 04/30/04

I can think of dozens of things... No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Good list, but pc vs. dedicated device? Anton Philidor | 04/30/04

Who knows really... No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

You lost me. Anton Philidor | 04/30/04

Could it be we need... No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Deep Thought; or, all the world's a peripheral Anton Philidor | 04/30/04

Keep it simple quietLee | 04/30/04

Thats why RedHat9User | 04/30/04

Off the top of my head... No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Good ideas Michael Kelly | 04/30/04

Chicken and egg argument is a fact of life. No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Interesting points voska | 04/30/04

Suggestions lead to the very sins of which he questions. John Le'Brecage | 04/30/04

And where can I buy them? No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/02/04

Re: I ask an honest question. mbraincell@... | 04/30/04

Glad to know I'm not the only one asking. No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Proprietary software is not the only place for innovation. B.O.F.H. | 05/01/04

Not true: wploger | 04/30/04

From the beginning PA-ITGuy | 04/30/04

Honest question Rick_K | 05/03/04

As honest an answer I can give Michael Kelly | 04/30/04

The "bricks" have been there for years. No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Unfortunately... Michael Kelly | 04/30/04

Has a second rate, "me too" product ever worked? No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

You helped prove my point on that reply Michael Kelly | 04/30/04

Is that really true? No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Reply to No Axe Michael Kelly | 04/30/04

Yes... wploger | 04/30/04

And here I thought you had something to say. No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

You're making his point for him j.m.galvin | 04/30/04

Huh? What are you talking about? No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

OSS doesn't necessarily mean no name brand Michael Kelly | 04/30/04

Paying for quality tic swayback | 04/30/04

Because I don't agree it's the case at all. No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Regardless tic swayback | 04/30/04

tic pschroeder@... | 04/30/04

tic, features, functions, and applications. No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/01/04

To Ax; Perception tic swayback | 05/02/04

To further make the point. Rick_K | 05/03/04

You mean MS-DOS? Yagotta B. Kidding | 04/30/04

And what has that to do with the topic? No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

You asked Yagotta B. Kidding | 04/30/04

Brand name != Linux User 147560 | 04/30/04

windows has become the generic OS. B.O.F.H. | 05/02/04

You need the plans, too StorageGuru | 04/30/04

Is Mozilla OSS? IT_User | 04/30/04

I suspect that you are slightly confused. B.O.F.H. | 04/30/04

Yes and No tic swayback | 04/30/04

Let's face it. Yen_z | 04/30/04

So why is MS Office the NUMBER 1 seller for Macs? No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

A possible reason Michael Kelly | 04/30/04

Nope... No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Because j.m.galvin | 04/30/04

Obvious tic swayback | 04/30/04

Obvious, its the best out there. No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/30/04

Wrong again there bitty Rick_K | 05/03/04

Simple... wploger | 04/30/04

But what have you now? StorageGuru | 04/30/04

Xbox tic swayback | 04/30/04

IBM Right? nikoli | 05/01/04

IBM makes the G5 chip. Rick_K | 05/03/04

almost right... jimk_z | 04/30/04

Insurance ? mbraincell@... | 04/30/04

no Games on Linux PERFECT! jkerr | 04/30/04

Quicken mabricen | 04/30/04

Stomping of the little feet.... quietLee | 04/30/04

LOL, You are soooo right nikoli | 04/30/04

Re: #4 PA-ITGuy | 05/01/04

NEXT, BeOS, OS2, Linux..Next jimk_z | 04/30/04

Eventually CobraA1 | 04/30/04

Message has been deleted. trojanhorse | 04/30/04

Why? PA-ITGuy | 05/01/04

Get some games on Linux then Bravo FilledOut | 05/04/04

Handicapped accessibility susancragin@... | 08/31/04

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