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think b4 you barf ... atleat 3% allready are off IE ...
It is enough to hear that mozilla is used at all in any LARGE Enterprise.

And as to use of mozilla, any organization concerned about security (as most large Enterprises are) at least considers moving off MS browser and email solutions to something not welded into the OS. The whole idea of virus distribution and exploitation on MS platforms is to use the half thought out features of MS's legacy attempts to compete with better technology they did not fully understand. They have lot's of cool stuff, but howe much of it is professioinally designed and properly implemented and objectively tested?

Anyone interested in security replaces IE as the easiest step towards securing the box, even before applying MS's patchballs!
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Mozilla, Gnome needs to fix their software first  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
I don't get it...  Michael Kelly | 04/28/04
You are joking, right?  Rick_K | 04/28/04
Not joking-Right....  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
LOL  voska | 04/28/04
to be fair  V Sanders | 04/28/04
No quite right  mabricen | 04/28/04
Yeah....!  NemesisNL | 04/28/04
next DAEMON burns down a Salvation Army  oldskool | 04/28/04
Office '[97 | 2K | XP]?  Eggs Ackley_z | 04/28/04
Hey Wait A Minute!!!!  Mike Rotch | 04/28/04
don't listen to this guy  sadchild | 04/28/04
Don't listen to this guy either  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
Actually....  Rick_K | 04/28/04
Actually what business uses Netscape  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
Do you have stats?  voska | 04/28/04
are you serious?  doh123 | 04/28/04
No numbers but....  DarbyOhara | 04/28/04
The Business Standard I Should Be ...  Mike Rotch | 04/28/04
90$ of people hit msn home page when start up browser  V Sanders | 04/28/04
MSN is the default page for MS-IE  mabricen | 04/28/04
It's probably 100%  IT_User | 04/28/04
BellSouth has 80,000 terminals using it.  ydhptkh1 | 04/28/04
Small businesses and...  FirstNLastN | 04/28/04
Our Business Used Secured IIS ...  Mike Rotch | 04/28/04
There is a reason for corporate computing standards...  BitTwiddler | 04/28/04
Enough !!!!  mabricen | 04/28/04
Enough of what  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
Done  mikeybrass | 04/28/04
of your Non-Sense  mabricen | 04/28/04
think b4 you barf ... atleat 3% allready are off IE ...  oldskool | 04/28/04
FACTS and a link to back it up  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
read your own article, you might notice the words  Monkey_MCSE | 04/28/04
Another link to back up MY FACTS:  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
Mozilla is a product without a need  V Sanders | 04/28/04
IE is a product without need  IT_User | 04/28/04
IE absolutely necessary  Letophoro | 04/28/04
Did MS make some non-standard extension to HTTP or FTP ???  oldskool | 04/28/04
You missed the sarcasm  Letophoro | 04/28/04
Incorrect on one point  Mack DaNife | 04/29/04
Non-Sense!!! Is it a desease???  mabricen | 04/28/04
Because it works?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 04/28/04
Pathetic.... sad  BitTwiddler | 04/28/04
I guess you've never used Mozilla...  BitTwiddler | 04/28/04
Competition=Good  Michael Kelly | 04/28/04
You Already Can ...  Mike Rotch | 04/28/04
Because...  mabricen | 04/28/04
Yep, and the funny thing is ...  Mike Rotch | 04/28/04
Wrong competition  tero_t_vaananen@... | 04/28/04
Huh?  Tim Patterson | 04/28/04
Waste of time  tero_t_vaananen@... | 04/28/04
Only one?  Louis Ross Focke | 04/29/04
After all the complaints about....  ShadeTree | 04/28/04
But, but, but...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/28/04
actually  doh123 | 04/28/04
Right about what?  IT_User | 04/28/04
Gnome is an OS?  j.m.galvin | 04/28/04
See my splitting hairs response below.  ShadeTree | 04/28/04
Not in the context of this thread  IT_User | 04/28/04
Nothing wrong with integrating the Desktop and Browser, unless, . . .  DonnieBoy | 04/28/04
answering yourself now?  Louis Ross Focke | 04/29/04
Nothing.  Patrick Jones | 04/28/04
You're Splitting Hairs  ShadeTree | 04/28/04
I am not sure..  Patrick Jones | 04/28/04
Well most likely  IT_User | 04/28/04
My point exactly  ShadeTree | 04/28/04
Don't know about OSS advocates  IT_User | 04/28/04
How about re-use of code and standardization?  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
Everything you say is true  IT_User | 04/28/04
Distinctions without differences  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
This is not integrated across all Linux distributions.  DonnieBoy | 04/28/04
Think ... is GNOME or Mozilla welded to an OS, any OS?  oldskool | 04/28/04
Not yet  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
simple answer  avdp | 04/28/04
Once again,  rkadowns | 04/28/04
Sounds like a knee jerk reaction to me  Rick_K | 04/28/04
Vaporware?  marksashton | 04/28/04
Apple OS  Louis Ross Focke | 04/29/04
Sounds like the posturing has begun  Squawkbox | 04/28/04
Too bad there are laws  tero_t_vaananen@... | 04/28/04
So show me where consumers won anything...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/28/04
Consumers win through...  Tim Patterson | 04/28/04
so now  V Sanders | 04/28/04
Hogwash..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/28/04
Photoshop, Illustrator, AppleWorks (all modules), Fireworks, & Painter  j.m.galvin | 04/28/04
oops  PA-ITGuy | 04/28/04
To PA-IT Guy - That'll work fine  j.m.galvin | 04/28/04
you mean  V Sanders | 04/28/04
C'mon mr. Sanders...  Tim Patterson | 04/28/04
Open source is probably not by " ... kids"  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
Not exactly true  ShadeTree | 04/28/04
Too bad there are laws ?????  Squawkbox | 04/28/04
OSS can't write decent software so they will sue  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
Twit  mikeybrass | 04/28/04
No you are wrong  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
Bad...  mikeybrass | 04/28/04
Down to his level?  Jose Jimenez | 04/28/04
Microsoft can't write software either  voska | 04/28/04
Hmm...  Linux_Developer | 04/29/04
I'm sure Mike Cox is...  jdd48 | 04/28/04
Using "integrated" instead of "bundled"  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
Add-ins?  Tim Patterson | 04/28/04
Agreed.  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
Might use the word "bloat"  IT_User | 04/28/04
Not really  CobraA1 | 04/28/04
does the market ever hold MS accountable for vapor ???  oldskool | 04/28/04
Good to live in a changeless world, I guess  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
Sounds like he is dedicated to a workable definition  IT_User | 04/28/04
So there is an older definition of an operating system.  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
Why do you find it necessary to change a term?  IT_User | 04/28/04
Oops, inferior  IT_User | 04/28/04
Getting close to agreement  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
All right, let's se it  IT_User | 04/28/04
What is the "Unix paradigm?"  IT_User | 04/28/04
Beg to disagree....  John Le'Brecage | 04/28/04
so mozilla web sites wont work with IE?  V Sanders | 04/28/04
What sites might those be?  IT_User | 04/28/04
Lesson learned?  Joe Blow_z | 04/28/04
Forgetting the advantages of OSS.  Tim Patterson | 04/28/04
Lin-losers are just playing number tricks  pa2004 | 04/28/04
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Who pays you to post your trolls?? (NT)  Letophoro | 04/28/04
Mozilla only used by 1.8% FACT and link  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
why not use a well known company to post facts  Monkey_MCSE | 04/28/04
RTFQ then ATFQ  Letophoro | 04/28/04
Daemon slave, I'm glad you don't do LD50/50 tests...  John Le'Brecage | 04/28/04
RE:  paman57@... | 04/28/04
Context Stan...  John Le'Brecage | 04/28/04
Mozilla is FREE, NO need for Internet Explorer  CobraA1 | 04/28/04
Well....  eldrave | 04/28/04
so many sites only support IE.  IT_User | 04/28/04
Don't be so sure...  eldrave | 04/28/04
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Are you sure?  IT_User | 04/28/04
Nice feint by Microsoft, then  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
I was responding to the post  IT_User | 04/28/04
And I to the article  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
LINK and STATS for Browsers  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
Try measuring growth instead wink  CobraA1 | 04/28/04
A little higher...  John Le'Brecage | 04/28/04
Answer not a fool according to his folly...  Linux_Developer | 04/29/04
Another link Mozilla is ONLY 1.8% overall !  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
Try measuring growth instead wink.  CobraA1 | 04/28/04
At the risk of repeating myself...  John Le'Brecage | 04/28/04
Unless you use a cookie killer  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
Forgive the heavy tone...  John Le'Brecage | 04/28/04
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This is the final clarification attempt.  John Le'Brecage | 04/28/04
Oddly, more choice with Microsoft  Anton Philidor | 04/29/04
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MS is being forced to compete and that is good for everyone!  George Mitchell | 04/28/04
Or...  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
Or ... 2  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
Microsoft's biggest competitor is Microsoft  IT_User | 04/28/04
Innovation?  tic swayback | 04/28/04
The Microsoft way  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
But that's the point, isn't it  tic swayback | 04/28/04
Whose point?  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
Passing the buck  tic swayback | 04/29/04
MS is running out of feet to shoot, no plan needed!  Xunil_Sierutuf | 04/28/04
1.8% is hardly a plan!  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
10%, according to some stats!  CobraA1 | 04/28/04
No one can argue with FACTS and LINK  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
Try measuring growth instead wink  CobraA1 | 04/28/04
Growth, hogwash it is a school!!! ha !  Enterprise Analyst | 04/28/04
A lot of hot air  CobraA1 | 04/28/04
I can tell you why the statistic is innaccurate...  John Le'Brecage | 04/28/04
Maybe try and understand the FACTS you are presenting!  Richard Flude | 04/28/04
Longhorn is much more than a more integrated browser...  marksashton | 04/28/04
Took them long enough  CobraA1 | 04/28/04
What is this "bloat"?  PlatformAgnostic | 04/28/04
Gotta disagree on one point....  Linux User 147560 | 04/28/04
You comment is more about the install  quietLee | 04/29/04
Middleware - Round III  oldskool | 04/28/04
Who is leading and who is following?  ShadeTree | 04/28/04
Who cares .... customers just want to be able to migrate  oldskool | 04/28/04
customers just want to be able to migrate?!?  ShadeTree | 04/28/04
You're probably right  IT_User | 04/28/04
Question  quietLee | 04/29/04
PATHETIC CHILDREN ! ! !  ScottDelore | 04/28/04
teddy roosevelt  ScottDelore | 04/28/04
Yes dear  IT_User | 04/28/04
Except...  Yen_z | 04/29/04
Why use that quote?  Anton Philidor | 04/28/04
?  Yen_z | 04/28/04
Internet Explorer isn't FREE  richman555 | 04/29/04
You're right  PlatformAgnostic | 04/29/04
Do whatever they want, if its business act so  FilledOut | 04/29/04
Playing right into Microsoft's hands  tldwg04011 | 05/02/04

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