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Gasoline is a red herring ... and creates alot of smog
OK, so the water needs to be converted into H2 and O2 which takes energy. Right now the effort is being put into developing fuel cells to combine hydrogen & O2 into water to generate electricity to power electric motors rather than using combustion for power.

Fuel cells are nice but big power output is way off unless you use corrosive chemicals like the space shuttle does, not good for cars & busses.

Even if fuel cells were viable today H2 storage is the real issue ... and H2 as a replacement for gas is immediately viable for about $100 total cost to convert an engine. Installation of the H2 storage is a seperate issue - in fact its the real issue for both fuel cells and internal combustion.

But, how many Joe Sixpacks realize the car they drive today is already hydrogen powered (using gas) and if it was converted to pure H2 it would work fine - today - with either a 15% drop in power but almost zero pollution or a 15% gain in power for same level of pollution.

Go figure - the government and the industrialists keep telling us hydrogen power is 20 years out ... ever wonder why?

And what if we simply moved to corn oil or used methanol/biodiesel? Instead of using our farmers to power our car we pay them not to grow corn and import this ancient fuel source - dinosaur juice!
Posted by: oldskool   Posted on: 04/26/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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HYDROGEN alternative is a crock of poop - we already use Hydrogen!  oldskool | 04/26/04
Hard to light  StorageGuru | 04/26/04
Gasoline is a red herring ... and creates alot of smog  oldskool | 04/26/04
Water needs to be converted into H2 and O2 .....  middle of nowhere | 04/26/04
you are wrong - internal combustion via H works fine  oldskool | 04/27/04
You're forgetting something, here.  Torgam | 04/28/04
Hydrogen Bomb  david_kelsey@... | 04/29/04
Detonation  lengua99 | 04/29/04
And what if we simply moved to corn oil or used methanol/biodiesel?  AbsolutelyNot | 04/27/04
A little homework  Spoon Jabber | 04/27/04
and what would you call  ryusen | 04/27/04
Uhh, that's what I mentioned in my post.  Spoon Jabber | 04/27/04
just my opinion...  ryusen | 04/27/04
Hydrogen  CodeBubba | 04/29/04
Is your car converted to Hydrogen?  greyammit | 04/29/04
About frickin' time  fgreyfox | 04/26/04
I don't know where you get your facts...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/27/04
you'd think the farmers would simply pour corn oil into the tank  oldskool | 04/27/04
It's not that simple.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/27/04
oops, one more thing...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/27/04
Not really  AbsolutelyNot | 04/27/04
This, too:  AbsolutelyNot | 04/27/04
Gates already made the movie  StorageGuru | 04/26/04
that's a copy of a Sun campaign from '92' or so  oldskool | 04/26/04
Bush: Broadband for the people by 2007  Hard Cider | 04/26/04
Bush  Plain Truth | 04/29/04
Broadband, I live in the country  Enterprise Analyst | 04/26/04
Wi-Fi  middle of nowhere | 04/26/04
great idea  rfwrangler | 09/26/04
Not if you are a country business like farming.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/27/04
BOGUS, just like "Let's do the Moon 'n Mars 'n stuff!" and "WMDs!"  dicktaurus@... | 04/26/04
Na, NASA kill's stuf to insure Congress funds the replacement!  oldskool | 04/26/04
Gotta love the clueless.....  middle of nowhere | 04/27/04
Yeah, bogus  Spoon Jabber | 04/27/04
Is Bush going to sponsor the bill?  IS Girl | 04/29/04
Hpw about WIFI?  lengua99 | 04/30/04
of course  V Sanders | 04/26/04
That's scary - they need the bandwidth to spy on us ...  oldskool | 04/26/04
Naaa, even easier...  Spoon Jabber | 04/27/04
The Sanction of the Victim  Cerebral Policy | 04/29/04
Even easier....  IS Girl | 04/29/04
That, like any ID can be faked  Spoon Jabber | 04/29/04
but...  ryusen | 04/27/04
BPL Pollutes the air waves, Need Better Solutions  bprats@... | 04/28/04
BPL Pollutes the air waves  kadowson@... | 04/28/04
So true  Spoon Jabber | 04/29/04
Concerning Digital Medical Records  tmtrz | 04/28/04
hydrogen cars?  fuzzywuzzy | 04/28/04
Bushie's broadband plan...  fuzzywuzzy | 04/28/04
Yeah, I know what you mean  Spoon Jabber | 04/29/04
Not a new idea  cableguy_z | 04/28/04
No Thank-You to Bush..Keep your hands off "The Peoples" internet  NightFly_54 | 04/29/04
What is the difference?  Spoon Jabber | 04/29/04
You want 'hands off'?...go along with Pres. Bush  keenedge | 10/08/04
Good Grief  nomad24@... | 04/29/04
Better yet  Spoon Jabber | 04/29/04
Not  nomad24@... | 04/29/04
OK there are now two.  Spoon Jabber | 04/30/04
NO DOUBT!  bnordberg | 04/29/04
Exactly  nomad24@... | 04/29/04
BPL - Broadband Over Power Lines = TROUBLE  lfilzen1@... | 04/29/04
Bush and corporates want to steal Iraq  Irak | 04/29/04
Steal?  Spoon Jabber | 04/29/04
Price?  nomad24@... | 04/29/04
Math?  Spoon Jabber | 04/30/04
Broadband "for the people"  CodeBubba | 04/29/04
Who does everyone need broadband?  bnordberg | 04/29/04
Broadband where it is profitable  tom norris | 04/29/04
I like the Kerry Plan!  Reverend MacFellow | 04/29/04
Let's See Bush & Kerry Compete on Broad  Dinnty | 04/29/04
Let's See Bush & Kerry Compete on Broad  Dinnty | 04/29/04
Let's See Bush & Kerry Compete on Broad  Dinnty | 04/29/04

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