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Jones v. de Icaza
Novell's open-source vice president, Miguel de Icaza, defended the company in a spirited response posted to his blog.

"The reality is that people react emotionally--it's Microsoft," said Justin Steinman, Novell's director of marketing for Linux and open-platform solutions. "If people can step away from the emotion and look at this objectively, they can see this (document interoperability) as goodness for the end customer."


The key difference is that Miguel de Icaza is looking at things from the POV of a proprietary software vendor (Novell) which has a "separate peace" with Microsoft and can get exclusive use of others' work (OpenOffice.org) by adding Microsoft patented material.

Pamela Jones, on the other hand, is looking at things from the POV of a user who doesn't want to lose something useful (OpenOffice.org and her own data) when Microsoft brings down the patent hammer.

In other words, where you stand depends on where you sit. In this instance, users' interests are opposed to those of Novell and Microsoft.
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Jones v. de Icaza  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/07/06
good post but  Quebec-french | 12/07/06
PJ vs MS  Scrat | 12/07/06
question ? do you really think ....  Quebec-french | 12/07/06
Just who is the "big gun " here  xuniL_z | 12/07/06
well most well known big gun  Quebec-french | 12/07/06
Be mindful of your audience  NonZealot | 12/08/06
Differences that matter  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/07/06
Differences that matter (reformatted)  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/07/06
If we take what you say...  mdsmedia | 12/07/06
Wrong!!  techboy_z | 12/07/06
Here's the thing.  joe6pack_z | 12/08/06
Advantage for users in Open XML  Anton Philidor | 12/07/06
Not True!  linux for me | 12/07/06
Correction  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/07/06
Gee, I thought Novell was open source...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/07/06
And it was a Novell employee...  Anton Philidor | 12/07/06
That's ridiculous...  techboy_z | 12/07/06
Extensible: Two-edged sword  Patanjali | 12/07/06
Sounds like you've taken...  mdsmedia | 12/07/06
Will all the software than can read Microsoft formats...  Anton Philidor | 12/07/06
ODF perpetuate current Office thinking  Patanjali | 12/07/06
Open XML is proprietary  martin23 | 12/08/06
Levels of Abstraction  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/08/06
Licenses  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/08/06
Agreed, mostly  Anton Philidor | 12/08/06
However...  John Le'Brecage | 12/07/06
So what?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/07/06
well ?  Quebec-french | 12/07/06
Gee, the facts say you are wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/07/06
what do you know  Quebec-french | 12/07/06
Learn to read, Don  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/07/06
Offer a choice, then.  Anton Philidor | 12/07/06
You are too funny  mosborne | 12/08/06
Nice spin!  techboy_z | 12/07/06
You've been spun.  Anton Philidor | 12/07/06
Assumptions  Scottman_z | 12/07/06
Microsoft's document gambit moves ahead  Loverock Davidson | 12/07/06
Wrong...  Tim Patterson | 12/07/06
For the same reason they let you post here Lovey....  mdsmedia | 12/07/06
ECMA double standard?????  martin23 | 12/07/06
Why bother?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/07/06
standards for who  martin23 | 12/07/06
Lets keep it real...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/07/06
ODF called better?  Anton Philidor | 12/07/06
Keep in mind, MA lost BADLY  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/07/06
Amazing  mosborne | 12/08/06
Would you consder ODF a pro-Microsoft thing?  Anton Philidor | 12/08/06
It could have been, is MS had wanted it  mosborne | 12/08/06
Should Open Office XML not be compatible with Office 2007?  Anton Philidor | 12/09/06
Microsoft was part of the group that decided what ODF was.  B.O.F.H. | 12/09/06
So ODF was written for Microsoft's benefit.  Anton Philidor | 12/09/06
You should do a little reseacrh before you post!  B.O.F.H. | 12/09/06
It seems to make you feel better  mdsmedia | 12/07/06
I wish you'd keep it honest  Fred Fredrickson | 12/07/06
We know how MS work with standards  I am Gorby | 12/07/06
Dueling standards?  techboy_z | 12/07/06
Yes it took alot of effort for OSS  Aussie_Troll | 12/08/06

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