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MS is NOT providing it...
They are providing the documentation so ANYONE else can do so, as long as they don't tie their own hands with a horrible license like the GPL.
Posted by: No_Ax_to_Grind   Posted on: 11/29/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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You mean common sense prevails?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
And, tell us great one, when will MS support ODF so that all office suites  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
What's the point, nobody will be using ODF anyway...(NT)  Scrat | 11/29/06
Developers Will Build to ODF  mighetto | 11/29/06
Not that I can see.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Yes, Microsoft wants you to think there is not solution but to let them  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
So now you think MS "controls" open source  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Just comenting on the reality of MS proprietary XML. It is designed to  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
What MS does, or doesn't do has NOTHING  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Still, Microsoft is motivated to use their proprietary standard to  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
Once more, that has NOTHING to do with ODF open source  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Back on topic, Microsoft needs to keep the gravy train a runnin' we are  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
Why?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
You explain why Microsoft will have to be dragged kicking and screaming  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
Buwahahahaha  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Back on topic, if you use MS proprietary XML, you are letting MS lead you  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
And if you use GPL code  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Again, BACK ON TOPIC, Microsoft needs to keep the gravy train a runnin'.  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
It is you that is off topic.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
So why does Microsoft have a problem with free on open standards that they  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
Typical No_Ax...just can't answer a question.  nomorems | 11/29/06
Aw, poor wittle boy, him all puffy...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Excuse me!  perryroyce@... | 11/29/06
Common sense would be Microsoft droping their proprietary XML and  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
MicroSuSE already supports ODF.  Scrat | 11/29/06
They do not give it full support, this is a third party, and not included  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
Huzzah - Why is Management so Clueless; November 2 2006 Novell/Microsoft  mighetto | 11/29/06
Wanna shovel for all that?  John Zern | 11/29/06
Anyone can use MS XML  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Right, anybody can be lead around by the ding-a-ling, you are so right.  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
Yes, just like the GPL keads you around.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Adobe did not Give Away All its Work; It did not give much to EU  mighetto | 11/29/06
We are only talking about a free and open standard that would allow all  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
ANYONE can implement it...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
What part of FREE and OPEN do you not understand. There is no reason to put  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
What part don't you understand???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
So why all this fear of GPLed code??? As you say, the programers will  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
dont use gpl in that case  galileon | 11/29/06
OpenOffice is GPL. Customers want interoperability. Microsoft wants to  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
I agree, no developer should  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Clearly...  zkiwi | 11/29/06
Gee, one out of how many?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Man, get over it, the GPL works and is popular. If people can't make enough  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
GPL most popular??? Buwahahahahaha  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Maybe you hate the fact the the GPL is so popular, but it is the most  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
... as long as you like black  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/30/06
Common sense  mosborne | 11/29/06
I guess you missed the news,,,  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Right, MS will make sure there is a castrated converter available that  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
So your saying open source folks can't code?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
We are talking Microsofts converter, it will be castrated. Yes, if MS  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
MS is NOT providing it...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Right, Microsoft the angel, they want everything to interoperate, they get  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
Again, that is up to the coders, not MS.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Right, Microsoft wants you to think that they had NOTHING to do with any  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
You mean the license which deliberately excludes GPL?  whisperycat | 11/29/06
180 degrees backwards. It's the GPL  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
If it was a FREE and OPEN standard, there would be no problem.  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
The GPL is NOT Free or Open.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
The GPL is designed to guarantee freedom. But, you also are free to not use  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
Free? Only as long as you bow to Stallman's view.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
Right inocent Microsoft, their license just HAPPENS to be incompatible with  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
GPL is NOT free, nor open  John Zern | 11/29/06
People are free to use GPL or not use it, but it is all about freedom and  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
Another thing, the ODF standard has nothing to do with GPL license.  DonnieBoy | 12/01/06
Sigh.  mosborne | 11/29/06
My objection to ODF...  Anton Philidor | 11/29/06
Stop! Stop! You are making me cry!! A standard that Microsoft can not  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
Call 1-800-Waaaaa  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
what a cry baby no axe stfu  Quebec-french | 11/29/06
Here's one just for you...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
when idiots insult they can expect to get a full plate handed back to them  nomorems | 11/29/06
What good is a standard, if it's crap?  John Zern | 11/29/06
Microsoft is the association  mosborne | 11/29/06
There is no rocket science in an XML file format. ODF would have been very  DonnieBoy | 11/30/06
Good question  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/30/06
SGML and XML  mighetto | 11/29/06
Shiny side out, Anton  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/30/06
By the way, the Microsoft license is incompatible with about any open  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
What do you care?  John Zern | 11/29/06
Why do you?  mosborne | 11/29/06
It is important, because MS is trying to sell their format as open and just  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
By The Same Token  Ole Man | 11/30/06
Common sense, Corel still around?  Boot_Agnostic | 11/29/06
Corel was on the verge of being bankrupt, and was bought out by a group of  DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
Can The Leopard Change His Spots?  Ole Man | 11/30/06
Link to PDF Comparison  Ole Man | 11/30/06
Free market  Boot_Agnostic | 12/02/06

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