You mean common sense prevails?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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And, tell us great one, when will MS support ODF so that all office suites
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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What's the point, nobody will be using ODF anyway...(NT)
Scrat | 11/29/06
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Developers Will Build to ODF
mighetto | 11/29/06
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Not that I can see.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Yes, Microsoft wants you to think there is not solution but to let them
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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So now you think MS "controls" open source
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Just comenting on the reality of MS proprietary XML. It is designed to
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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What MS does, or doesn't do has NOTHING
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Still, Microsoft is motivated to use their proprietary standard to
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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Once more, that has NOTHING to do with ODF open source
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Back on topic, Microsoft needs to keep the gravy train a runnin' we are
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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Why?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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You explain why Microsoft will have to be dragged kicking and screaming
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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Buwahahahaha
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Back on topic, if you use MS proprietary XML, you are letting MS lead you
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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And if you use GPL code
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Again, BACK ON TOPIC, Microsoft needs to keep the gravy train a runnin'.
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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It is you that is off topic.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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So why does Microsoft have a problem with free on open standards that they
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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Typical No_Ax...just can't answer a question.
nomorems | 11/29/06
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Aw, poor wittle boy, him all puffy...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Excuse me!
perryroyce@... | 11/29/06
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Common sense would be Microsoft droping their proprietary XML and
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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MicroSuSE already supports ODF.
Scrat | 11/29/06
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They do not give it full support, this is a third party, and not included
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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Huzzah - Why is Management so Clueless; November 2 2006 Novell/Microsoft
mighetto | 11/29/06
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Wanna shovel for all that?
John Zern | 11/29/06
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Anyone can use MS XML
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Right, anybody can be lead around by the ding-a-ling, you are so right.
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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Yes, just like the GPL keads you around.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Adobe did not Give Away All its Work; It did not give much to EU
mighetto | 11/29/06
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We are only talking about a free and open standard that would allow all
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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ANYONE can implement it...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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What part of FREE and OPEN do you not understand. There is no reason to put
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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What part don't you understand???
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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So why all this fear of GPLed code??? As you say, the programers will
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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dont use gpl in that case
galileon | 11/29/06
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OpenOffice is GPL. Customers want interoperability. Microsoft wants to
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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I agree, no developer should
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Clearly...
zkiwi | 11/29/06
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Gee, one out of how many?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Man, get over it, the GPL works and is popular. If people can't make enough
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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GPL most popular??? Buwahahahahaha
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Maybe you hate the fact the the GPL is so popular, but it is the most
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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... as long as you like black
Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/30/06
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Common sense
mosborne | 11/29/06
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I guess you missed the news,,,
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Right, MS will make sure there is a castrated converter available that
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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So your saying open source folks can't code?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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We are talking Microsofts converter, it will be castrated. Yes, if MS
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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MS is NOT providing it...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Right, Microsoft the angel, they want everything to interoperate, they get
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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Again, that is up to the coders, not MS.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Right, Microsoft wants you to think that they had NOTHING to do with any
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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You mean the license which deliberately excludes GPL?
whisperycat | 11/29/06
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180 degrees backwards. It's the GPL
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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If it was a FREE and OPEN standard, there would be no problem.
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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The GPL is NOT Free or Open.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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The GPL is designed to guarantee freedom. But, you also are free to not use
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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Free? Only as long as you bow to Stallman's view.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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Right inocent Microsoft, their license just HAPPENS to be incompatible with
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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GPL is NOT free, nor open
John Zern | 11/29/06
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People are free to use GPL or not use it, but it is all about freedom and
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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Another thing, the ODF standard has nothing to do with GPL license.
DonnieBoy | 12/01/06
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Sigh.
mosborne | 11/29/06
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My objection to ODF...
Anton Philidor | 11/29/06
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Stop! Stop! You are making me cry!! A standard that Microsoft can not
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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Call 1-800-Waaaaa
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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what a cry baby no axe stfu
Quebec-french | 11/29/06
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Here's one just for you...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/29/06
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when idiots insult they can expect to get a full plate handed back to them
nomorems | 11/29/06
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What good is a standard, if it's crap?
John Zern | 11/29/06
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Microsoft is the association
mosborne | 11/29/06
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There is no rocket science in an XML file format. ODF would have been very
DonnieBoy | 11/30/06
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Good question
Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/30/06
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SGML and XML
mighetto | 11/29/06
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Shiny side out, Anton
Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/30/06
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By the way, the Microsoft license is incompatible with about any open
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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What do you care?
John Zern | 11/29/06
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Why do you?
mosborne | 11/29/06
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It is important, because MS is trying to sell their format as open and just
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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By The Same Token
Ole Man | 11/30/06
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Common sense, Corel still around?
Boot_Agnostic | 11/29/06
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Corel was on the verge of being bankrupt, and was bought out by a group of
DonnieBoy | 11/29/06
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Can The Leopard Change His Spots?
Ole Man | 11/30/06
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Link to PDF Comparison
Ole Man | 11/30/06
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Free market
Boot_Agnostic | 12/02/06
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