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Well what do the 'vast" majority of people/businesses/government
positions need to be productive? email? Browser (maybe)
networking? and some sort of office like suite? What else and of
this stuff does not open-source have that? I will grant you all
organizations have some unique patches here and their where their
needs will be even greater and more specific but i assume (and this
is only an assumtion on my part) that the "study" done would have
taken those factors into place.

Pagan jim
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I can't even say ...  ShadeTree | 11/27/06
Or, how about Microsoft "mission critical" that is an even better oximoron!  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
Baroque features,  swoopee | 11/27/06
! Thank you, I'm here all week! (NT)  Spoon Jabber | 11/27/06
Wow, you couldn't even think of the "Microsoft Works" one?  A_Pickle | 11/27/06
Well what do the 'vast" majority of people/businesses/government  Laff | 11/27/06
The most secure Windows ever  georgep_z | 11/27/06
Well, it is  Badgered | 11/27/06
"The most secure Windows ever"  Pyvent | 11/27/06
And so it goes  mypl8s4u2 | 11/29/06
You can't spell, either  TTGIT Guy | 11/27/06
Irony is  Linux User 147560 | 11/27/06
First Off The Bat  Ole Man | 11/27/06
Speaking of productivity suites Oxymorons...  thetargos | 11/27/06
RE: I can't even say ...  Protagonistic | 11/27/06
Are we seeing Windows start it's change to..  mikeholli | 11/27/06
Are we seeing Windows start it's change to..  mikeholli | 11/27/06
MS OS and Productivity is real oxymoron  alevek | 11/27/06
Patching only take so much time  Airwolph | 11/28/06
MS OS and Productivity patches  mypl8s4u2 | 11/29/06
Now there's a concept ...  JustWaiting | 12/07/06
I Wonder Whether Eclipse and Java  Cardhu | 12/03/06
Yea...  Qbt | 11/27/06
If anyone can do it the French can  voska | 11/27/06
No, ther's a reason behind it  John Zern | 11/27/06
LOL!  Spoon Jabber | 11/27/06
LeCar . . .  jlhenry62 | 12/01/06
I'm sure if it gets tough they will surrender  Spoon Jabber | 11/27/06
USA white flag factory is getting plenty of orders  patrick@... | 11/27/06
RE: USA white flag factory  Protagonistic | 11/27/06
Nope, there was that littleFrench thing in Indochina.  ajole | 11/27/06
Perhaps you're mistaken for the UN white flag factory...  A_Pickle | 11/27/06
Why's everyone always pick on the French  voska | 11/28/06
Blame Bush; Blame Gates; What it means for programmers  mighetto | 11/28/06
Revisionist History  Dave P. | 11/28/06
I remember Dave Lettermen in the 80s and 90s  Boot_Agnostic | 11/28/06
Haliburton..  Northwolf | 11/29/06
Competition  Spoon Jabber | 11/29/06
You heard about the new French Tank?  jlhenry62 | 12/01/06
I owned a Renault  JustWaiting | 12/07/06
Come on guys, this is just the French wanting to be independent, especially  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
Wait a minute...  fuzzy2k | 11/27/06
Yes, it does have a very nice version of solitare! My kids also prefer the  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
There are thousands  xuniL_z | 11/28/06
ohh pullleeeeeeaaassee...  mdsmedia | 12/01/06
So... it is not because of Linux... it is a cuz of national pride..  Donbans_z | 11/27/06
Ahem,....  maldain | 11/27/06
Shortsightedness  Donbans_z | 11/27/06
What country is Linus Torvalds from?  Ralfthedog | 11/28/06
FOSS...  doh123 | 11/28/06
The world...  Linux User 147560 | 11/28/06
Technology from America  doublev | 11/27/06
Can you say Monopoly = Garbage Software  slim-01 | 11/28/06
yes  xuniL_z | 11/28/06
WTF over?  Airwolph | 11/28/06
Hey dipstick  JustWaiting | 12/07/06
when ignorants like ShadeTree.....  mdsmedia | 12/01/06
This was a no brainer  John Zern | 11/27/06
Would the US want to be dependent on the French, Chinese, or Russians, or  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
The US is totally dependent on foreign money.  B.O.F.H. | 11/27/06
You got that right.............  BobF_z | 11/28/06
Message has been deleted.  startx.jeff | 11/27/06
So.......  seosamh_z | 11/27/06
Uhhhh........  startx.jeff | 11/27/06
Wow. Joe, that was so...  John Zern | 11/27/06
Message has been deleted.  Monkeypox | 11/27/06
Message has been deleted.  Spoon Jabber | 11/27/06
I might agree with you but  xuniL_z | 11/27/06
Then you should!  Spoon Jabber | 11/27/06
He is right.  xuniL_z | 11/27/06
Yes, he can be a pompous @ss  Spoon Jabber | 11/27/06
Not quite  xuniL_z | 11/27/06
Whoah! Let's not get carried away!  Spoon Jabber | 11/28/06
You are telling me to not get carried away?  xuniL_z | 11/28/06
What I'm trying to say  Spoon Jabber | 11/29/06
International law  xuniL_z | 11/30/06
Take a lesson from General Pershing  Spoon Jabber | 11/30/06
Clarification  Spoon Jabber | 11/30/06
What's the....  bargeemike | 11/28/06
Stupis is......  seosamh_z | 11/27/06
Please try Ubuntu  alex.arica | 11/27/06
I think Vietnam was a withdrawal, we never surrendered.  ajole | 11/27/06
Revisionist history  billycan | 11/27/06
Uh Huh  Dave P. | 11/27/06
You own a dictionary?  SteveH66 | 11/29/06
withdraw? unlikely  Shamsul Kamal | 11/27/06
The same peple who own it now...  Airwolph | 11/28/06
Nobody "wins" in war  gudy | 11/27/06
I disagree  Dave P. | 11/27/06
Stupid frog  Dave P. | 11/27/06
I shouldn't bother but....  seosamh_z | 11/28/06
I'm glad you did  Dave P. | 11/28/06
Well, actually...  fuzzy2k | 11/27/06
Not quite...  seosamh_z | 11/27/06
ROTFL  John Zern | 11/27/06
You would know all about surrender  Mad Dan | 11/27/06
Why pick on France  voska | 11/27/06
Well, because.....  xuniL_z | 11/27/06
And don't forget...  Spoon Jabber | 11/27/06
Well historically speaking that makes them different from  Laff | 11/27/06
Ouch!  Spoon Jabber | 11/27/06
Do you really think the U.S.  xuniL_z | 11/27/06
I didn't take it that way  Spoon Jabber | 11/27/06
No I did not mean the whole war was for money..at least I hope it was not.  Laff | 11/27/06
Nope  Linux User 147560 | 11/27/06
I totally agree  xuniL_z | 11/28/06
You're right about that xunil_z  Spoon Jabber | 11/28/06
Hey LU 147560  xuniL_z | 11/28/06
You provide the link  Linux User 147560 | 11/28/06
You provide the link  Linux User 147560 | 11/28/06
Supe, house of cards, ...  Spoon Jabber | 11/28/06
Technically most wars are for profit  voska | 11/28/06
LU  xuniL_z | 11/28/06
Google their screen name (NT)  Spoon Jabber | 11/28/06
Spoon Jabber... from one that was there...  Linux User 147560 | 11/28/06
So, you're denying it?  Spoon Jabber | 11/29/06
Nobody is denying anything  xuniL_z | 11/30/06
Proof?  Spoon Jabber | 11/30/06
easy answer  Dave P. | 11/27/06
Is that all?  Laff | 11/28/06
Pagen Jim...  Dave P. | 11/28/06
Are you denying it?  Spoon Jabber | 11/29/06
Oops, wrong thread! (NT)  Spoon Jabber | 11/29/06
Since We're Already Far Off-Topic...  M.R. Kennedy | 11/27/06
what he probably meant was....  NemesisNL | 11/27/06
@brother mike  sjaaxken | 11/27/06
Re:Hitler's Declaration of War  BubbaJ | 11/27/06
Come on guys, what does this have to do with modern day French people  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
Well, yeah.  ajole | 11/27/06
Pearl Harbor  jkaplenk@... | 11/27/06
that's what I said  voska | 11/28/06
excuses, excuses...  the_fiddler_on_the_roof | 11/27/06
Come on guys, leave the French alone. If they want to be more independent,  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
well put.  the_fiddler_on_the_roof | 11/27/06
I can help with that  slim-01 | 11/28/06
True. The whole discussion is way off topic.  slim-01 | 11/28/06
Free for all bar brawl  Linux User 147560 | 11/28/06
Message has been deleted.  patrick@... | 11/27/06
Message has been deleted.  ajole | 11/27/06
Awesome..  wuboyblue | 11/27/06
French parliament dumping Windows for Linux  Loverock Davidson | 11/27/06
France in general  Linux User 1 | 11/27/06
technical history  reedjjjr | 11/28/06
What about AirBus then?  Dave P. | 11/28/06
It is just that Linux is open source, and they can pick and choose  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
Been smelling too much of their own perfume.  lenohere | 11/27/06
OpenOffice, FireFox, Thunderbird, etc, are available on all Linux  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
It is France we're talking about...  thetargos | 11/27/06
It's just so hard for them to understand what no vendor lock-in is  slim-01 | 11/28/06
There you have it.  xuniL_z | 11/27/06
Please, do not use the word "robust" in the same sentence with Windows or  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
There you go again  xuniL_z | 11/27/06
Just reality, Windows has not been robust and secure in the past. We are  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
Who is we?  xuniL_z | 11/27/06
London exchange using Windows Server 2003  Linux User 1 | 11/27/06
Do you live in a cabe? You have not heard about all of the Windows security  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
I'm not waiting  The Tautologist | 11/27/06
Hey DB  xuniL_z | 11/28/06
It's not a Anti Microsoft thing it's consumer rights.  slim-01 | 11/28/06
The French aren't jumping into Linux...  ajole | 11/27/06
*please do your research*  the_fiddler_on_the_roof | 11/27/06
Dealing with so many problems with Windows that I have high blood pressure  slim-01 | 11/28/06
huh?  xuniL_z | 11/28/06
To xuniL_z  slim-01 | 11/28/06
Learn to read, and document yourself before issuing comments  thetargos | 11/27/06
I read very well thank you  xuniL_z | 11/28/06
WinXP/2003 is somewhat robust but insecure/unstable  slim-01 | 11/28/06
All I can tell you  xuniL_z | 11/28/06
Acually we have been forced to use Windows for years to spite it's flaws  slim-01 | 11/28/06
Exactly why it will fail  Loverock Davidson | 11/27/06
You still do not get it. Untill they pick the vendor, no need to pick a  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
Te cae? (NT)  thetargos | 11/27/06
As Spoken by a non Linux User with no Linux migration experience  slim-01 | 11/28/06
...why in the world they would spend billions of dollars to switch...  swoopee | 11/27/06
What would cost them billions is to keep buying MS Office and Windows  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
Is that why  xuniL_z | 11/27/06
Migrating to Linux is also a one-time cost,  swoopee | 11/27/06
That's the problem  xuniL_z | 11/27/06
I guess you hate it when Linux does everything that is needed.  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
I will agree that there are many cases  swoopee | 11/27/06
Linux is cheaper to maintain than Windows, and you do not have recurring  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
Are you talking about your desktop at home?  xuniL_z | 11/27/06
French problem?  alex.arica | 11/27/06
Read this if you think he is the only one using large scale Linux  slim-01 | 11/28/06
Ok, you got me.  xuniL_z | 11/28/06
To xuniL_z  slim-01 | 11/28/06
Another post from the jenius  SteveH66 | 11/29/06
Coffee?  zkiwi | 11/27/06
No thanks, I don't drink it.  xuniL_z | 11/27/06
Please try Ubuntu  alex.arica | 11/27/06
Hmmm....  zkiwi | 11/27/06
So you are telling me that  xuniL_z | 11/28/06
Office 2000 1 time, Office XP 2 time, Office 2003 3rd time, etc..  slim-01 | 11/28/06
Billions?  fuzzy2k | 11/27/06
Yes it's Long term Windows expendatures vs 1 short term Linux expendatures  slim-01 | 11/28/06
Please enumerate where the billions will be spent  sundby@... | 11/27/06
Things shouldn't be any better would they have decided *BSD  thetargos | 11/27/06
How about these non failures then  slim-01 | 11/28/06
Incomplete phrase  jolumoar | 11/28/06
A backward country  Anton Philidor | 11/27/06
you got it backwards  Monkeypox | 11/27/06
It's not criminal when the UN says its OK,  ajole | 11/27/06
I thought the UN didn't give it's OK  voska | 11/28/06
It's hard admitting you were wrong  Chad_z | 11/27/06
Even when the French government is right...  Anton Philidor | 11/27/06
How that old imperial system working out?  Richard Flude | 11/27/06
10 month years and 100 minute hours and...  Anton Philidor | 11/27/06
Metric has an interesting history  Richard Flude | 11/27/06
Correction  Richard Flude | 11/27/06
Yes, the year did have 12 months...  Anton Philidor | 11/27/06
Abitrary logical an arbitrary silly  voska | 11/28/06
An interesting history of Metric is available on  Richard Flude | 11/28/06
While I agree with knocking the French as much as possible  ajole | 11/27/06
if someone were to make the error...  Anton Philidor | 11/27/06
Time changes things  voska | 11/28/06
Including recognition of the metric system.  Anton Philidor | 11/28/06
Never happen  voska | 11/28/06
what planet are u from  sjaaxken | 11/28/06
I can understand...  Anton Philidor | 11/28/06
Never like the French until today  DarthRidiculous | 11/27/06
Very good!  Cassis | 11/28/06
revisionist history? US is just as bad...  shryko | 11/28/06
We won that war you goofball.  osreinstall | 11/28/06
And no we aren't going to invade Canada.  swoopee | 11/28/06
That was not quite the reason  osreinstall | 11/28/06
Both of you are wrong  voska | 11/28/06
I don't think so Voska  osreinstall | 11/28/06
Wrong again  voska | 11/28/06
No you are wrong  osreinstall | 11/28/06
What revision?  Tigertank | 11/28/06
Ummm... I'm Confused  David Hamilton | 11/29/06
About that "gift"  Spoon Jabber | 11/30/06
I must admit  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/27/06
How does that logic work?  k12linux_z | 11/27/06
Why?  techboy_z | 11/27/06
French using Linux  peeseebeeb@... | 11/28/06
Reading the foregoing posts...  Henry Miller | 11/27/06
Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, meet Pot. (NT)  startx.jeff | 11/27/06
Reading the parent post,  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/27/06
What it should have said...  tic swayback | 11/27/06
Cultists from any software camp...  fuzzy2k | 11/27/06
France sets Linux Free!  Linux Geek | 11/27/06
Maginot Line  perryroyce@... | 11/27/06
Technically it didn't fail at all  voska | 11/27/06
I saw a History Channel expose on that wall and I  Laff | 11/27/06
Support costs.  Anton Philidor | 11/27/06
German Response  perryroyce@... | 11/27/06
The Germans would have brought out bigger guns  Sxooter_z | 11/29/06
Re: I saw a History Channel expose on that wall and I  M.R. Kennedy | 11/27/06
Small quibble  perryroyce@... | 11/27/06
You have to remember....  DCMann | 11/27/06
French Mistakes  perryroyce@... | 11/27/06
French Mistake  sujit_z | 11/28/06
Way of topic but...  patrick@... | 11/27/06
Twice in 2 weeks  John Zern | 11/27/06
You are wrong twice  Linux Geek | 11/27/06
Yeah, sure it was.  osreinstall | 11/27/06
Yet Another History Expert Weighs In (NT)  M.R. Kennedy | 11/27/06
History Lesson  perryroyce@... | 11/27/06
But if fortifications stand for centuries...  Anton Philidor | 11/27/06
Walls  perryroyce@... | 11/27/06
Shut up, fool.  James T. Kirk | 11/27/06
That coffin sure has a lot of nails in it... happy (NT)  3D0G | 11/27/06
Agreed.  swoopee | 11/27/06
Nails  perryroyce@... | 11/27/06
Maginot Line!  ShuntR | 11/27/06
I hope you're joking  FatherJ | 11/28/06
Here is a batch of nails  osreinstall | 11/28/06
MS and 20th century politics  hgeorgescu@... | 12/01/06
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Like Mass. we have NOT  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
How would you know?  John Zern | 11/27/06
And, do you think that Microsoft will come right out and say that they have  DonnieBoy | 11/27/06
In france . . .  jlhenry62 | 12/01/06
The difference between France and the US  ju1ce | 11/27/06
"Home" and "Desktop"  davidsarmstrong | 11/27/06
I'd say the opposite  FatherJ | 11/29/06
Great to hear, but until rolled out....  nucrash | 11/27/06
Remember, this was based on a study by a "service" company  georgeou | 11/27/06
You might check out this link George since it is your link  slim-01 | 11/28/06
To work as in be Successful?  nucrash | 11/28/06
And in five years or so they may  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/27/06
Do you use Linux?  davidsarmstrong | 11/27/06
I'm not convinced that No Ax  swoopee | 11/28/06
Sounds about right  voska | 11/28/06
Splendid!  osreinstall | 11/27/06
Rize American Programmer; Meet French Threat  mighetto | 11/27/06
So and what  Boot_Agnostic | 11/27/06
French Parliament dumping Windows for Linux  rondev | 11/27/06
Interesting  hoiatl | 11/27/06
At least they aren't hypocrites...  aurora7795 | 11/27/06
Actually I'm sure they will pay for support  jfp | 11/27/06
actually, this is ATOS that supports Linux for the French parliament  PhilippeV | 11/28/06
This is what will drive Linux on the desktop forward ...  George Mitchell | 11/27/06
Well that is awfully sad to here.  xuniL_z | 11/27/06
Re: Well that is awfully sad to here.  George Mitchell | 11/27/06
YEAH!  Linux User 147560 | 11/27/06
Re: Yeah!  Linux User 1 | 11/27/06
We can always count on Linux User 1 ...  George Mitchell | 11/27/06
Be Careful  Shelendrea | 11/27/06
And...  Spikey_Mike | 11/28/06
Why don't you leave this group since you lie about who you are  slim-01 | 11/28/06
Un-informed . . .  jlhenry62 | 12/01/06
Windows World vrs Standards  davidsarmstrong | 11/27/06
This is what will drive Linux...  rondev | 11/27/06
America in decline!  Alastair Murray | 11/27/06
The Windows supporters don't see that they are the biggest Linux supporters  slim-01 | 11/28/06
Makes sense  georgep_z | 11/27/06
French parliament dumping Windows for Linux  nospam@... | 11/27/06
Have you tried Linux or was this just a blind man's assult  slim-01 | 11/28/06
Well I hate to burst your bubble  blaze1024 | 11/28/06
Value of Linux  jerry8770 | 11/30/06
Wisdom decision!  alex.arica | 11/27/06
Everything is already included  alex.arica | 11/27/06
Beware...  People | 11/27/06
Muslin rioting?  laredoflash@... | 11/27/06
Please stop the bigoted nonsence.  slim-01 | 11/28/06
Linux is ready!  alex.arica | 11/27/06
SuSE! We want SuSE Lizard!  laredoflash@... | 11/27/06
Please Try Ubuntu  alex.arica | 11/27/06
Ubuntu is alright, but not the best  Uralbas | 11/29/06
Hmmmmmm,......  Shelendrea | 11/27/06
Message has been deleted.  Linux User 1 | 11/27/06
Message has been deleted.  MGP2 | 11/27/06
Who closes the holes  mames1701 | 11/27/06
Patches are free too  k12linux_z | 11/27/06
MS to Linux: answer to your queation  bob in FL | 11/27/06
MS to Linux: answer to your queation  bob in FL | 11/27/06
How Open Source Works  davidsarmstrong | 11/27/06
this makes a great advertisement  corticus | 11/27/06
It's disgraceful  Ole Man | 11/27/06
TalkBack: Reply to message It's disgraceful  huehueteot | 11/27/06
I think he is referring to the comments??  George Mitchell | 11/27/06
I've been to France 3 times  corticus | 11/27/06
Americans and the French  davidsarmstrong | 11/27/06
French and American relations  Boot_Agnostic | 11/30/06
What's really disgraceful ...  George Mitchell | 11/27/06
Actually, the French ARE telling us how to do things!  ajole | 11/27/06
And of course you are right ...  George Mitchell | 11/27/06
I can speak for Germany  davidsarmstrong | 11/27/06
yep thats right too  inoutandallabout | 11/28/06
short memory?  teuchter | 11/27/06
Classic French ATTITUDE...  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 11/27/06
Peace and love and Ubuntu!  alex.arica | 11/27/06
Will the French Do It Again ?  Evisscerator | 11/27/06
France is unstable at best  Linux User 1 | 11/27/06
You would know all about being unstable  Shelendrea | 11/27/06
The pot calling the kettle black are we?  Linux User 1 | 11/27/06
Get a life...  zkiwi | 11/27/06
Life?  perryroyce@... | 11/28/06
You think so huh?  Shelendrea | 11/28/06
What is you problem, Bubba?  osreinstall | 11/28/06
Stable  plumnilly | 11/28/06
Get a clue!  laredoflash@... | 11/27/06
Have you used Linux?  voska | 11/28/06
The Unknowing  Ole Man | 11/27/06
French Parliment dumping Windows for Linux  Tom W_z | 11/27/06
oh dear  inoutandallabout | 11/28/06
Anybody remember the Mouse that Roared?  ajole | 11/27/06
Fund to help Donnieboy migrate  TonyMcS | 11/27/06
No but we can use a fund to help Windows users migrate  slim-01 | 11/28/06
Nice...  flexewebs | 11/27/06
Fantastique!  D. T. Schmitz | 11/27/06
Not commenting on the wisdom of this...  3D0G | 11/27/06
No Foreign Government will buy M$ software with a Kill Switch  Old Timer 8080 | 11/27/06
We can only hope.  bblackmoor@... | 11/27/06
What's this Kill Switch?  davidsarmstrong | 11/27/06
Actually, the ultimate oxymoron would be Windows Security  Pyvent | 11/27/06
French Distro  THEE WOLF | 11/27/06
Very Funny  Donbans_z | 11/27/06
Current OSs are too complex  THEE WOLF | 11/27/06
Hey! That's wrong answer!  laredoflash@... | 11/27/06
Who are you  zkiwi | 11/27/06
How about free-nuts? ahahahaa  laredoflash@... | 11/27/06
Vive la France!  bblackmoor@... | 11/27/06
Why the anti-French sentiment?  bblackmoor@... | 11/27/06
That was a good joke.  osreinstall | 11/28/06
French Parliment Linux  Bobby Joe Reed | 11/27/06
it took 120 HP Proliant servers! to do the job of a dozen  blaze1024 | 11/28/06
SO WHAT?  Big Steve_z | 11/27/06
French Parliment Linux  Bobby Joe Reed | 11/27/06
At last, a technology that the French can feel good about stealing!  rhighley | 11/27/06
Stealing?  zkiwi | 11/27/06
MS FUD  davidsarmstrong | 11/27/06
True. Microsoft only needs to loose 30% of a market share or so  slim-01 | 11/28/06
Except you forgot about Mandrake  SteveTheWirePuller | 12/03/06
XP secure??!!  laredoflash@... | 11/27/06
where's my message?  laredoflash@... | 11/27/06
Not the first  caruso94 | 11/28/06
Linux Fodder!  Gridmaster | 11/28/06
Decision Making  Sparkster | 11/28/06
Nope. Changing the topic doesn't make you right!  Still Lynn | 11/28/06
French Parliament Action  joelkruissink@... | 11/28/06
As long as...  interested_amateur@... | 11/28/06
As long as...  interested_amateur@... | 11/28/06
Hmmmm  s_carter2000@... | 11/28/06
Get the facts  tripolitan | 11/28/06
Mambo CMS  Mamboswiss | 11/29/06
Use the system that works for you  Boot_Agnostic | 11/29/06
French colonies apprised via Minitel  SteveTheWirePuller | 12/03/06
i mdo hope..  Graham Fluet | 12/07/06
Smart move  hoiatl | 12/29/06

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