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Microsoft did provide documentation.

Not according to Brad Smith (Microsoft's General Counsel). According to him, it was only early this year that MS pulled hundreds of senior developers into a "death march" project to reverse-engineer Microsoft protocols. Several hundred man-years later, they're still not done.

They even offered to provide source code which would be even more beneficial than the documentation.

Evidently not, since even Microsoft had to invest man-centuries of the developers who were already intimately familiar with the protocols.

That suggests that the cost to any other party would have run into very large figures even if MS handed the code over for nothing. Mr. Smith's figure was something like three hundred senior developers for eight months, so the calculation goes something like this:

2400 man-months = 200 man-years.
Burdened senior programmer: ~$160K/year
Total labor cost: $32 million

Of course, that's assuming that the outside developers were able to get started as quickly as the MS ones did, which is questionable, and that they had access to all of the materials that the MS ones do, which is also questionable.

Still, about $30 million plus or minus just to get the equivalent of an IETF specification.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/15/06
This must be the reason...  jcg_z | 11/15/06
Mostly right.  Anton Philidor | 11/15/06
Typo  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/15/06
Entirely right.  Anton Philidor | 11/15/06
RTFA  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/15/06
technical docs are a new invention  brokndodge@... | 11/15/06
Define "new"  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/15/06
Microsoft does not document their code.  B.O.F.H. | 11/15/06
Bait  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/15/06
So you caught a typo!  B.O.F.H. | 11/15/06
Urban legend  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/15/06
Sorry Yagotta, not legand but recruiter (developer, too)  B.O.F.H. | 11/15/06
Time out, BOFH!  Zogg | 11/16/06
Take it up with the people who make MS Office or Windows.  B.O.F.H. | 11/16/06
I'm talking about your compiler comment.  Zogg | 11/16/06
What!?  rapson | 11/16/06
THis was what the developers at Microsoft told me.  B.O.F.H. | 11/16/06
Microsoft always pre-tests.  Anton Philidor | 11/15/06
The ruling we're really waiting on  Richard Flude | 11/15/06
Uh-oh.  Jack-Booted EULA | 11/15/06
Well, if so, it's just a counterbalance to the ABM zealots.  James T. Kirk | 11/15/06
Brad Smith opens mouth, sticks foot in, must go  mighetto | 11/15/06
If it's always a cover-up  John Zern | 11/15/06
Dead lines come, dead lines go  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/06
For once, we agree  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/15/06
Entirely true  John Zern | 11/15/06
Don't get too comfortable  Fred Fredrickson | 11/15/06
EU: Microsoft compliance deadline a week away  Loverock Davidson | 11/15/06
EU: Microsoft Compliance Deadline...  rondev | 11/15/06
Microsoft did provide  Loverock Davidson | 11/15/06
Pravda  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/15/06
Excellent Points ...  el1jones | 11/15/06
hmmm  DemonX | 11/15/06
He is wrong  Loverock Davidson | 11/15/06
Code...  zkiwi | 11/15/06
The ultimate authority speaks  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/15/06
Acually Loverock need a history lesson  slim-01 | 11/15/06
I guess you wanted an A  zkiwi | 11/15/06
Just because Microsoft claims to have complied...  jasonp@... | 11/15/06
See what it comes down to when you are wrong?  Loverock Davidson | 11/15/06
Name calling?  jasonp@... | 11/15/06
Keeps on proving my point  Loverock Davidson | 11/15/06
he really doesn't need to keep insulting you..  Monkey_MCSE | 11/15/06
He didn't insult you Loverock but I will  slim-01 | 11/15/06
No Boycott Microsoft instead.  slim-01 | 11/15/06
EU should put M$ out of business  Linux Geek | 11/15/06
Grow up  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/15/06
Maginot Line  perryroyce@... | 11/15/06
Santayana  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/15/06
History  perryroyce@... | 11/15/06
clueless talking  Linux Geek | 11/15/06
Which still constitutes a breach  Linux User 147560 | 11/15/06
As bad as open source.  Anton Philidor | 11/15/06
Nice try...  Linux User 147560 | 11/15/06
Agreed  DemonX | 11/15/06
Wine is a product of the French soil...  Anton Philidor | 11/15/06
Dear Clueless  perryroyce@... | 11/15/06
If I may... I think the term has a different meaning to many...  el1jones | 11/15/06
Hubris  perryroyce@... | 11/15/06
Hey, Yagotta!  rapson | 11/15/06
Shut up, fool.  James T. Kirk | 11/15/06
If you had a brain  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/06
I think thats kind of silly  DemonX | 11/15/06
for once maybe just maybe  Quebec-french | 11/15/06
Better yet...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/06
Blow away Microsoft's most valuable market?  B.O.F.H. | 11/15/06
this prove my theory on you  Quebec-french | 11/15/06
Hmmmmm.  Mad Dan | 11/16/06
I see a neocon in this cupboard..  JohnLearner02 | 11/16/06
EU: Microsoft  dparkins | 11/15/06
so when do we get the A380 documentation  BrutalTruth | 11/15/06
well if airbus had  Quebec-french | 11/15/06
So you say Americans are a bunch of whinning pu$$ie$?  B.O.F.H. | 11/15/06
Maybe the documentation is outdated  Riscy00 | 11/15/06
Free and fair competition as per the WTO rules  zzz1234567890 | 11/16/06
And yet...  zkiwi | 11/16/06
EU Microsoft compliance  minello7 | 11/15/06
No comparison!  jsargent | 11/15/06
Microsoft competes. No to jihad and no to suicidal missions  zzz1234567890 | 11/16/06
Microsoft is not acting in users best interest  SecurityExpert | 11/20/06
Trust or Antitrust  s_carter2000@... | 11/22/06

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