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""" though this thread was about user friendlyness and security. If that's the case the points made are valid. You can combine a user friendly interface with a secure OS. No matter what the OS is. MS made strategic decision to put the user in the driver seat. That's great and I agree PC's wouldn't be where they are now if they hadn't. Could they have done this without throwing security issues out of the window(s)? As the other OS's demonstrate the could/should have."""

It is very easy to look at something from the viewpoint of today and say if (add name) had done this or if they had done that, then things would be better and to be correct while saying it. Yes Microsoft did make a business decision when Windows came out to make it easy for the average user (who probably knew little about computers) to use their OS. Of course, at that time was the OS for Apple any more secure? If memory serves me correct, it was not.

"""The problems with windows are stemming from that decision earlier in it's life. The fact that with every new version these decisions have come back to haunt MS must be recognized as well. I think MS will never solve this problem as long as they refuse to rethink the entire basis of windows. Re-design it with security at heart and add the user friendly gui to that and not the otherway around. Now all they can do is patch an OS that is already riddled with ad hoc solutions to basic design flaws, wich is never a good idea."""

Here I do agree with you. Microsoft has and is paying for the decisions they made in the beginning and I also agree that the best thing they could do would be to do a complete rewrite of the OS (as Apple did with OSX). But even here you run into a problem. What will the average user think about the added security. I am talking about people like my wife who just wants to turn it on, click a few icons and have it work. Sure I can setup and use whatever OS I feel like and if Microsoft did redesign the OS I could use it, but my wife would be at a loss and so would a lot of her friends. That is the problem I don't know if any company will ever be able to solve.
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