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Still not good enough (for Loverock)?

Video resolution does not display properly.

I already documented for you above how to change your screen resolution through the GUI.

PLaying more than one sound does not work properly.

Playing more than one sound works wonderfully in a modern distribution. Since we're talking specifically about Fedora Core 6 here; I'll inform you that multiple sound problems have been fixed for over three years, ever since the ALSA sound architecture was inducted into the vanilla kernel. The days of being limited to your hardware mixers have been over for a long time. So have the pops and hisses associated with overdriving speakers.

Wifi does not work properly.

Considering that I'm typing this from my living room over WiFi, I find this remark especially humorous. I used the same WiFi card at numerous hotel providers (from Verizon to Mextel) on the trip I just took and at the occasional Starbucks or lunchcounter. Scan for the SSID. Click. Go in through your browser just as you would in any other OS, sign up. It just works.

Is there anything on linux that does work properly?

That depends on whether you have a working definition of properly. If you try to do things the "Mac Way" or "the QOS way" or the "OS/360 way" or the "OS/2 way" or the "BeOS way", then no. You actually have to do things the Linux way, but through the GUI in a modern Linux version, it shouldn't be too traumatic, even for you.

Unofficial code repositories? You are willing to load untrusted code onto your machines? Good luck with that initiative. Thats a chance most users are not willing to take.

Who said "untrusted"? At least read what I wrote. I said "unofficial". In Fedora Core these are called the "extras" repository. The only difference between the code in them is that the maintainers are not employees of Redhat, but they certainly are responsible parties who can be quickly located. Other extras repositories are maintained by Google, for example, and someday I would hope by Nvidia and ATI. Are these not trusted companies? Well, maybe not by you, but the majority know who they are and trust them. So, good luck with that argument - it doesn't fly.

Um... no. I've read on here multiple times that we must use linux. Problems with the PC? Use linux! Something else go wrong? use linux! Operating system dead? use linux! So yes, people are trying to compel us to use linux. I'm just smart enough not to fall for it.

Ah, now Loverock confuses advertising and advocacy with force majeur. Do a little test? You inform us that people tell you that you "must" use Linux. And you're not? Then obviously you weren't compelled. If you were compelled, you'd be using GNU/Linux. You have chosen not to and you're free to choose not to. Free, get it Loverock? Free as in Free Market? Choose or not.

You say you don't because you are "not stupid". Unfortunately, your "not stupid" has also left you woefully underinformed about what a modern GNU/Linux distribution can and cannot do.

Just don't be willfully inaccurate when you advertise to people to follow you and not use GNU/Linux. If you are inaccurate we're going to call you on it, and since, as you admit, you don't use GNU/Linux; you really don't have any hands on - on which to base your opinion. In short, you're unbelieveable.

Sorry but this generalized statement says nothing. The same can be said by the linux community who refues to try any other operating system but still feels compelled to complain about it without trying it.

I use other operating systems at every client for whom I work. I also show them that I can do the same work from GNU/Linux and just as well as they can with their chosen platform. I've tried somewhere in the neighbourhood of 30 OPs and I've found a few I like. Don't bet for a second that I won't try Vista or the next MacOS or the next rev of Plan 9, even if I don't like them. You'd be mistaken.

You have though, laid out a trap for yourself, and I'll be happy to push you in. Since we know you haven't used a modern GNU/Linux distribution (you're not stupid, remember?) then please inform us of five other OS products you've used in their latest revisions and what you liked about them. C'mon Loverock. Rise to the challenge. If you want to show that you're not like the people you deride, then provide objective proof so we can evaluate your claims.

What I do is state the many many faults with linux in plain english.

Well, you got the English part correct, but since you, by your own admission, are one of those people who have not tried and do not keep trying GNU/Linux in successive revision(you're not "stupid", remember?), to see what works now that didn't work in previous revisions; your opinion is at best suspect and at most worthless.

I can't help it if the linux community can only bash/degrade/belittle people who disagree with them. I'm just trying to help them out.

By willfully spreading mistruths and inaccuracies? By insisting that you cannot do something when most people can? By belittling, degrading, and bashing everyone (including me) who offers to help you smooth your (non-existent) GNU/Linux experience? If this is "help", then, hmmm... what's a good analogy: please help overweight or starving children lose or gain weight by giving them poisoned candy. Your "help" does more damage than the problems you are trying to "solve".

PS - I left out your little GPL snipe, because it's a distraction. We both know that Oracle, IBM, Acronix, Sun and numerous others have distributed over GNU/Linux without being forced to disclose their code. They exercised the freedom they have to link or not link with GPL code. As I said "GNU/Linux is all about freedom". Part of that freedom is choosing how you will code and market your products, what libraies you will use, what timesaving development techniques you will employ and what supporting features you will exercise. Freedom. Freedom to choose. Freedom that is available to lesser degrees elsewhere.

We were talking about use, not distribution though, so you're point is moot. By simply using GNU/Linux; you're not required to release anything. It's just another of those willfull inaccuracies you like to propagate.

Posted by: John Le'Brecage   Posted on: 10/24/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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