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Anton: Yes, and property is...
...whatever the state says it is, or so says John Carroll. According to that interpretation, which I wholeheartedly reject, the state can create whatever classes of "property" it cares to, but in doing so, it does have to be concerned with the impact on society (as John himself freely admits).

My own interpretation is that it's convenient to call franchise monopolies "property" because it's a lot easier to get people worked up over copyright infringement if you can equate downloading a movie illegally with stealing a car. Don't know the history of patents and copyrights in Europe, but in the US, they were introduced as a means of encouraging creative activity (the US Constitution authorizes Congress to grant authors and inventors exclusive control over their own creations for a limited period of time), and *not* as a form of property protection (otherwise, perpetuity would have made a lot more sense).

I very much believe it to be the duty of the state to protect property, narrowly defined (ie. physical objects, and maybe land) and to provide reasonable means for holders of legal monopolies like copyrights and patents to enforce their contracts with the state (that's really all so-called intellectual property is) consistant with the public interest. I don't believe that control of one's own ideas is a fundamental right that the state is oblighed to protect at all costs, but rather something the state can grant at it's discretion if it is judged to be in the public interest. This was the position of the framers of the US Constitution and has been a rather common position among European statesmen over the last 250 years or so.

It may well be in the public interest to grant software patents (I don't think it is, but I'm just a programmer), but if it is, property protection per se is not the reason, nor is protecting the interests of economic "winners" who are quite capable of looking after their own interests without extraordinary help from the state; if it is to be done at all, it is to be done to encourage new inventions and for no other reason. If this action is to be taken, it needs to be done in the open, in accordance with traditional legislative procedures (including meaningful debate), rather than by judicial or administrative fiat, allowing elected officials to dodge responsibility for making policy.

This brings the discussion full circle and I'm not terribly motivated to continue it further.
Posted by: John L. Ries   Posted on: 09/22/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Looks like a dodge to me  John L. Ries | 09/21/06
Have sympathy.  Anton Philidor | 09/21/06
Absolutely right  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/21/06
The good old days...  Anton Philidor | 09/21/06
Whose ox?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/21/06
Yes, winners like to keep their gains.  Anton Philidor | 09/21/06
Why should that be of concern to anyone else?  John L. Ries | 09/21/06
Also, Google shows large companies can grow...  Anton Philidor | 09/21/06
Mr. Ries, defense of property is public policy...  Anton Philidor | 09/21/06
Anton: Yes, and property is...  John L. Ries | 09/22/06
Prove it....  techboy_z | 09/21/06
Susceptible to proof.  Anton Philidor | 09/21/06
Would you have us patent ideas?  msolgeek | 09/21/06
Congratulations, Anton  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/21/06
Spirit of '76.  Anton Philidor | 09/21/06
I disagree  voska | 09/22/06
Put up or ...  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/21/06
None whatever  John L. Ries | 09/21/06
Legal fictions are solemn things.  Anton Philidor | 09/21/06
"Because their prosperity relies entirely on ideas"  msolgeek | 09/21/06
Suppose another company used the same ideas...  Anton Philidor | 09/21/06
So what's your idea of an "idea?"  msolgeek | 09/21/06
None mentioned.  Anton Philidor | 09/21/06
So you have no idea.  msolgeek | 09/22/06
"... a monkey may have an idea."  Anton Philidor | 09/22/06
I don't see the problem here  voska | 09/22/06
Call it what you want  John L. Ries | 09/21/06
Ridicuclous  Mectron | 09/21/06
Best example of software patents...  #_z | 09/21/06
M$ is behind it  Linux Geek | 09/21/06
When do you sleep  wadoz1 | 09/21/06
M$ is sending people out to take you for a joyride  Boot_Agnostic | 09/23/06
From Bill to Anton  j.dupont | 09/21/06
The whole discussion.  Anton Philidor | 09/21/06

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