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Incorrect.
Well let's just put that sorry opinion in check Mr. McS.

What MA wants is to ensure accessibilty of their documents using something that they can control. An open or community standard.

Taking some quotes from Bob Sutor:

"A de facto standard is a specification that became popular because everyone just happened to use it, possibly because it was implemented in a product that had significant market acceptance. The details of this specification may or may not be available publicly without some sort of special legal arrangement."

"The basic problem with a de facto standard is that it is controlled by a single vendor who can, and often does, change it whenever the vendor decides to do so. This frequently happens when a product goes from one major version to another. At that point, everyone else who is trying to interoperate with the information created in the owning vendor?s product must scramble and try to make their own software work again."

The other type of standard is again quoting Bob Sutor:

The second kind of standard I?ll mention is something I?ll call a community standard. As you might guess, this is something created and maintained by more than one person or company. The members of the community may work for companies or governments, belong to organizations, or may be experts who are otherwise unaffiliated. The standards creation process involves negotiation, compromises, and agreement based on what it best for the community and the potential users.

"It is a classic fallacy to think that this necessarily creates a ?lowest common denominator? or unsatisfactory compromise. Smart people can make good decisions together, even if they don?t all work for the same company. Conversely, people who all work for the same company don?t necessarily always make smart decisions. They might, for example, produce de facto standards that have security vulnerabilities."

"Community standards usually get blessed, as I termed it above, by being created or submitted to a Standards Development Organization, or SDO. While it does happen that people may get together and write a standard from scratch in an SDO, it is very likely that one or more parties will bring drafts to the table as a starting point. It is usually expected that the developing standard will change over time as more minds are directed at the problem that the standard is expected to help solve."

"A standard may go through multiple versions: it is not uncommon for the first version to take one to two years and then about the same time for each of the next one or two iterations. At some point it will stabilize and either become fairly universally used or else become eclipsed by an alternative way of tackling the same general problem. For example, the new web services standards are starting to be used for distributed computing, replacing older standards, as Service Oriented Architecture becomes more broadly deployed."

Reference:

http://www.sutor.com/newsite/essays/e-OsVsOss.php
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Mass. is right, others should follow  bportlock | 07/05/06
They should but  TheHonestTruth | 07/05/06
truth is supposed to be honest  code_Warrior | 07/05/06
Code_warrior, U missed the point  sykandtyed | 07/06/06
MS Office + ODF Plug-In: interesting option  A.Typical Zork | 07/05/06
MS will break it in the next patch.  LittleGuy | 07/05/06
Not likely ...  George Mitchell | 07/05/06
They have disabled high profile plugins before  LittleGuy | 07/05/06
Well ... we will see ...  George Mitchell | 07/05/06
It will depended  TheHonestTruth | 07/05/06
Microsoft IS creating an ODF converter!  leguirerj | 07/06/06
Mass. IS sufficient demand.  dave.leigh@... | 07/06/06
OH!  Update victim | 07/06/06
Microsoft backs ODF plugin  JDThompson | 07/06/06
Why MS hates ODF ..........  Reverend MacFellow | 07/05/06
We know that Microsoft HATES open standards.  DonnieBoy | 07/05/06
And its bad for its monopoly  DarthRidiculous | 07/05/06
Uh huh, that is why they submitted one huh?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/05/06
Submitted, eh?  Robert Crocker | 07/05/06
The MS "standard" will not be accepted by OSI. It is not truely a standard,  DonnieBoy | 07/05/06
Standard  TonyMcS | 07/05/06
You confuse de facto standard with a real open standard  DonnieBoy | 07/05/06
Incorrect.  gotitright | 07/06/06
Yes it will, you are simply wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/06/06
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Apples and Oranges  TripleII | 07/05/06
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Obviously he doesn't understand how fast he can  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/05/06
Probably he knows who his boss is.  John L. Ries | 07/05/06
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Campaign contributors never forget.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/05/06
A few people have something called a 'backbone' ...  George Mitchell | 07/05/06
Uh huh, never knew a politician to turn down dollars.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/06/06
So you're freely admitting  Rick_K | 07/06/06
Definition of 'merit':  George Mitchell | 07/06/06
Applicable . . .  Sheeva | 07/13/06
You make corruption sound like such a good thing  John L. Ries | 07/05/06
Corruption? No, just politics.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/06/06
No, sorry but you are wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/05/06
Note  bidemytime | 07/05/06
He's wrong? Show how!  IT_User | 07/05/06
Okay, bad paste  IT_User | 07/05/06
The findings were bogus, politically motivated. He works for the Govorner  DonnieBoy | 07/06/06
What do the people of Mass want?  osreinstall | 07/06/06
No_Ax_to_Grind - Ginding every MicroSoft Ax bar none! NT  raycote | 07/05/06
raycote, proving you can't keep a zelot from ranting.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/05/06
No_Ax, the zealot whose ranting we can't stop  critic-at-arms | 07/05/06
Pot Kettle Black?  Rick_K | 07/06/06
Yea raycote ... go away!  George Mitchell | 07/05/06
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Yes.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/06/06
politics  not of this world | 07/05/06
But does understand democracty and separation of power  Fred Fredrickson | 07/05/06
Sorry, but they can NOT ignore fed law.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/06/06
Don, get a grip for petes sake ...  George Mitchell | 07/06/06
It's good to see nothing has changed  zkiwi | 07/06/06
And you really think it will matter?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/06/06
As you are generally wrong  zkiwi | 07/06/06
Someone has to say "NO" to the M$ shills.  Mr. Roboto | 07/05/06
Critics are blatant liars  gath | 07/05/06
MS has never been able to code to a standard  LittleGuy | 07/05/06
Yup!  George Mitchell | 07/05/06
however the defacto industry standard is the Office format  BrutalTruth | 07/05/06
Really?  George Mitchell | 07/05/06
Yeah, since when...  techboy_z | 07/06/06
Wow, Freudian SLIP??  mobrien_12@... | 07/05/06
keep you head up Mass  Quebec-french | 07/05/06
M'ass .... hehe  Reverend MacFellow | 07/05/06
Anyone hear Ballmer's voice . . ?  critic-at-arms | 07/05/06
Good Point .... (nt)  el1jones | 07/05/06
I was thinking that...  Rick_K | 07/06/06
Microsoft Caves In.  UserLand | 07/06/06
Awaiting the next act.  Anton Philidor | 07/06/06
Wake up!  bportlock | 07/06/06
Get in the house, and put some clothes on.  yogeee | 07/06/06
Interesting concepts, but lets talk about reality.  gotitright | 07/06/06
Yup,...Bill the businessman...it's all about control, yup...  yogeee | 07/06/06
Technology vs Politics/money  blarman | 07/06/06
ZDnet TROLL Poll!  Reverend MacFellow | 07/06/06
Weighing in on this side...  gotitright | 07/06/06
Oh ok..  gotitright | 07/06/06
Oh ok..  gotitright | 07/06/06
open formats  raunchy | 07/07/06
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