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"Concepts and Methods" are the basis for every software patent in existence. If this judge is saying those hold no vale and plaintiff must point out the specific lines of code then there is no protection for software at all.

You just advertised to the whole world that you don't understand the difference between copyright and patents.

SCO was claiming copyright infringement. SCO didn't introduce the methods and concepts voodoo until a few weeks ago. Wells indicated SCO would still have to identify the sections of code they thought were infringing in specificity, which, of course, they didn't. Mainly because there aren't any.

From the order:

After considering the expert declarations and the parties' memoranda, the court finds that methods and concepts are at least on some basic level comprised of source code. The court agrees with mr. Rochkind, SCO's expert, that methods and concepts can be discussed without disclosing source code. But it is possible, and even preferable in many instances, to provide the code behind methods and concepts. In fact, Mr. Rochkind's own publication Advance Unix Programming (2d ed. 2004), provides many examples of code when discussing "fundamental concepts."

This case was a joke from the beginning. Unix methods and concepts have been publicly documented for decades.

Hopefully you're just a paid shill. Otherwise there's some company saddled with a complete technotard managing part of the their data management infrastructure. You don't belong in IT, Ax. You don't seem to know much about IT management or implementing technology. It's not just that you prefer Windows, you really don't display much depth in the business.

Hey, isn't it about time to change your nym again? You went from BitByte to No_Ax. About time for another transition, isn't it?
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Who cares  Linux User 147460 | 06/30/06
Paul Allen's Vulcan Enterprise will Care  claytonmuhler | 07/01/06
Who cares  nomorems | 07/04/06
Time to crack another  Linux User 147460 | 06/30/06
Good point . . . That beer goes great when watching this smackdown... (nt)  Plain Logic | 06/30/06
devil  Linux User 147460 | 06/30/06
And as SCO is comming out of the delusional phase the grave implications  michael_t | 06/30/06
Not-so-thin air  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/03/06
Far reaching ramifications? Interesting.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/06
Copyright  IT_User | 06/30/06
I think you've nailed it here  Too Old For IT | 07/01/06
So the formula for Coke isn't patentable?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/01/06
Geee  TtfnJohn | 07/01/06
Please learn something about Intellectual Property Law!  B.O.F.H. | 07/01/06
So I should be able to make lawsuit and win even if I cant prove my claim?  CobraA1 | 06/30/06
Clarification on judge statements  Solid Water | 06/30/06
Let the courts decide if it is true or not....  Linux User 147460 | 06/30/06
Judge Brooke Wells  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/03/06
Long and drawn out  bitfuzzy | 06/30/06
What do "concepts and methods" have to do with copyrights?  Michael Kelly | 06/30/06
This isn't a patent infringement case  John L. Ries | 06/30/06
you read wrong  NemesisNL | 06/30/06
"Concepts and Methods" basis for every software patent ..but  stevey_d | 07/01/06
Ramifications in Copywrite law as per software?  B.O.F.H. | 07/01/06
You should read before commenting  Chad_z | 07/01/06
Ha Ha Ha...  MmmBuddy | 07/03/06
And before that  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/03/06
You don't pay much attention  John L. Ries | 07/03/06
A Needed Correction  TtfnJohn | 07/01/06
No_ax doesn't read Groklaw  CobraA1 | 07/02/06
More to the point  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/03/06
i bet the judge is running sacred  barsteward | 07/02/06
It's amazing....  mdsmedia | 07/03/06
More likely, No_Ax is a troll...  Zogg | 07/03/06
No_Ax Missed The Point Entirely  MmmBuddy | 07/03/06
Your observation is Spot On - Good job. (nt)  Plain Logic | 07/03/06
I imagine you know by now you are barking up the wrong tree  Physco Dude | 07/03/06
Tiny little details  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/03/06
It has always been the case  nomorems | 07/04/06
No_Ax, there are no patents involved  wolf_z | 12/18/06
As Judge said, It's like a cop accusing one of shoplifting . . .  Plain Logic | 06/30/06
Sad day for Intellectual Property...  Mike Cox | 06/30/06
So so .. 4.5 - Waiting to hear how your rep spins this !!! (nt)  Plain Logic | 06/30/06
5.0  John L. Ries | 06/30/06
Sorry your trollness, but  bitfuzzy | 06/30/06
Tweet!  John L. Ries | 06/30/06
Make it 10  John Zern | 06/30/06
Sorry your trollness, but  richdave | 07/01/06
8.75  nomorems | 07/04/06
SCO suit is now effectively over - Can't wait to watch IBM . . .  Plain Logic | 06/30/06
I'll do one better  bitfuzzy | 06/30/06
I disagree  hoiatl | 06/30/06
WAS is the key word  bitfuzzy | 07/01/06
HAHAHAHAHAHA  John Zern | 06/30/06
This is all just speculation, of course. BUT...  Zogg | 07/01/06
SCO legaly owned the SOURCE code of the original SVr4 UNIX and  michael_t | 07/01/06
As far as the source code goes...  Zogg | 07/01/06
SUN was the UNIX company which substantially  michael_t | 07/03/06
michael_t , Isn't that assertion still being litigated ???  Plain Logic | 07/01/06
you are absolutely right  NemesisNL | 07/02/06
Nicely put  bitfuzzy | 07/03/06
Yes, but it does not have the same impact as when the case started  Physco Dude | 07/03/06
"UNIX" itself is "owned" by the Opengroup  michael_t | 07/03/06
But Michael , Isn't Novell contesting SvR4 Ownership in Court ???  Plain Logic | 07/04/06
If we had "Loser Pays"  Too Old For IT | 07/01/06
SCO: Shutup and stop wasting your money...  Linux_Fanboy | 06/30/06
Not their money, it's Microsoft's...  jinko | 07/01/06
No, LET them waste their money  A.Typical Zork | 07/03/06
Well since it nearly over and SCO is down with a tko  Quebec-french | 07/01/06
SCO IP available on eBay: $9.99 Buy it Now  Too Old For IT | 07/01/06
SCO is doing us all a huge favor ...  George Mitchell | 07/01/06
Serves you right, SCO.  jgmsys@... | 07/01/06
This isn't over yet...  BFD | 07/01/06
Sorry, but it is over . . .  Plain Logic | 07/01/06
wrong  NemesisNL | 07/02/06
Of course, it is not just what is there; but how it got there...  Physco Dude | 07/03/06
Judge said NOMINAL damages  MmmBuddy | 07/03/06
And one minor detail, WHO DID THE DEEDS...  Physco Dude | 07/03/06
Youre right, of course  John L. Ries | 07/03/06
Way overstated  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/03/06
UMM....  Gorets | 07/02/06
Those CoxARoaches are hiding in the woodwork .  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 07/02/06
What the heck is that about  Linux User 147460 | 07/02/06
Cute slam and play on words, but meaningless  A.Typical Zork | 07/03/06
Why would you want to?  A.Typical Zork | 07/03/06
I think you'll find Mike posting earlier in this thread  mdsmedia | 07/04/06
You do realize that Mike is poking fun don't you.  Physco Dude | 07/03/06
How much longer will this go on  Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 07/02/06
Maybe you need to be a lawyer  Linux User 147460 | 07/02/06
Southern , He doesn't need any NEW facts. . .  Plain Logic | 07/02/06
Don't bet the farm on it  Linux User 147460 | 07/02/06
Ian , the wheels of justice turn slowly . . .  Plain Logic | 07/02/06
LOL  Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 07/02/06
I wish they kept the claims in...  Physco Dude | 07/03/06
No, you don't  mobrien_12@... | 07/04/06
When I first saw the headline...  Confused by religion | 07/03/06
Actually, you were projecting to the reality of the situation . . .  Plain Logic | 07/03/06
In reality,...  Confused by religion | 07/03/06
NEVER BUY SCO!  Reverend MacFellow | 07/05/06

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