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Khaotic, you seem to be laboring under the same misunderstanding that Pacheco is (although your opinion of the misunderstanding is diametrically opposite of Pacheco's). ODF is a format, not an application. This isn't about OpenOffice, it's about ODF. Heck, I saw a headline a day or three ago about a plugin for MS Office that allows documents to be opened from and saved to ODF, which may well allow MA to stick with Microsoft Office if they wish.

Senator Pacheco is clearly a blusterer who isn't interested in the facts or the truth but rather wants to make lots of noise. Don't argue at his level, keep pounding on the facts. If you make this debate about OpenOffice vs. MS Office you'll lose; if you keep the debate at Open Standards vs. Closed Standards you have a chance of winning.
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Stopping the freedom  Khaotic_One | 06/29/06
incorrect info  Khaotic_One | 06/29/06
Neither, actually  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/29/06
Screen reader software  ebrke | 06/30/06
Stopping the inaccuracy  FamilyManFirst | 06/29/06
Where to start, umm, your wrong on every point.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Good non-point  Seenidog | 06/29/06
Don't worry, the brighter ones understood. (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
stop being lame  eb276 | 06/30/06
PDF is not a standard  PB_z | 06/29/06
For good reasons  Rick_K | 06/30/06
What exactly was Democratic about the ...  ShadeTree | 07/05/06
You mean it's possible to...  Spoon Jabber | 07/05/06
Say WHAT???  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/29/06
You are partly correct  jwinske | 06/29/06
Bzzzt wrong as usual.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Well... umm.. Maybe you should point them out.  gotitright | 06/30/06
Several questions are not answered  michael_t | 06/29/06
So, are you calling people with disabilities...  Confused by religion | 06/29/06
Classic LOW IQ SPIN Milly. Point to me WHERE I claimed this  michael_t | 06/29/06
Talk about demonstrating "jack assness within"  wininpitt | 06/29/06
I agree... your personal demonstration clearly  michael_t | 06/29/06
Okay - let me help you out here  Confused by religion | 06/29/06
MIly, you cannot escape so easily. You OWN your words  michael_t | 06/29/06
Let me help you out.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Actually, they can...  firehound | 06/29/06
Sorry, wrong again.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Nah...  firehound | 06/29/06
Due, your ego is amazing.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/06
er....pardon me, but just clarify  Castanet | 06/30/06
What's wrong bitty  Rick_K | 06/30/06
The only possible objection  DemonX | 06/29/06
None of the above. It was a dumb mistake.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
You are supporting my points.  michael_t | 06/29/06
Twice wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
So? wrong(wrong) := right wink No ?  michael_t | 06/29/06
So what you're saying is either  wininpitt | 06/29/06
I am sorry, I see where I was not clear enough  michael_t | 06/29/06
How can you actually believe any of this?  gogone | 07/01/06
What a absurd & lame spin or dissemblance....  LazLong | 06/29/06
Why it was illeagal  jwinske | 06/29/06
You're of missing the point  DemonX | 06/29/06
Not missing the point  jwinske | 06/29/06
Sorry, you are missing the point  mobrien_12@... | 06/29/06
Exactly - but you're wasting your breath  Castanet | 06/30/06
Missing the point  Rob Groh | 07/03/06
How usury of you.  osreinstall | 07/03/06
Usury?  Rob Groh | 07/03/06
You bet.  osreinstall | 07/03/06
Pacheo is wrong  Fred Fredrickson | 06/29/06
Process  Anton Philidor | 06/30/06
Where is the cost-benefit analysis that made MS Office the suite of choice?  michael_t | 06/30/06
Uh, your post is absurd  wininpitt | 06/29/06
Thank you buddy for immediately demolishing your credentials with  michael_t | 06/29/06
And, of course, this vindicates your intelligence?  Confused by religion | 06/29/06
I am sorry dear milly but my intelligence was NEVER CHALLENGED  michael_t | 06/29/06
And yet...  rapson | 06/30/06
Carl, I DO attack MS or un-wise decisions on their de-merits but I  michael_t | 06/30/06
Milky Only Attacks You if Yo Dissagree With Him  Cayble | 07/03/06
You are so wrong at every level.  osreinstall | 06/29/06
U calling me wrong is a strong indicator that I am right thanks  michael_t | 06/29/06
You still don't get it.  osreinstall | 06/29/06
Differences  richhayes | 06/30/06
How do you have "increased choice" if you have to use a proprietary format  michael_t | 06/30/06
Mandates  richhayes | 07/01/06
Differences?  Rob Groh | 07/03/06
if they can use a computer at the public library  not of this world | 06/29/06
Do everyone a favor and kill yourself.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
agreed  Seenidog | 06/29/06
agreed...  olster | 06/29/06
We often disagree but I'm behind you and yours 100%  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Wishing someone's death is not an answer...  Physco Dude | 06/30/06
his disgusting?  gogone | 07/01/06
Is Ann Coulter your sister?  osreinstall | 06/29/06
Gotta love it when politicians spread corporate FUD  mobrien_12@... | 06/29/06
State can NOT mandate Chevy or Ford.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
But the state can mandate Microsoft?  mobrien_12@... | 06/29/06
Can not mandate specific product.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
What SPECIFIC PRODUCT?  mobrien_12@... | 06/29/06
Wow, another ego gone wild.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/06
Fair post to the wrong person...  Physco Dude | 06/30/06
Cannot do that either...  osreinstall | 06/30/06
Diesel  Hemlock Stones | 06/30/06
So is electricity with that reasoning.  osreinstall | 06/30/06
Analogy  bmh129 | 06/30/06
I knew that. I was just discrediting him.  osreinstall | 06/30/06
CIO  bmh129 | 06/30/06
Worthless reply.  mobrien_12@... | 06/30/06
OpenDocument != a Product  barsteward | 06/29/06
What?????  wininpitt | 06/29/06
I'd like to see where they specified the end product...  just_a_guy | 06/29/06
Product != Criteria  KWRussell | 06/30/06
ODF, JPEG, PDF  mighetto | 06/30/06
Chevy or Fords are products, NOT STANDARDS  Physco Dude | 06/30/06
How dense are you?  Rick_K | 06/30/06
Legality question  the_chemist | 07/03/06
But state can mandate standards for tires, crash-worthiness, etc.  Plain Logic | 06/29/06
Yes, and they should have!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/29/06
Spot On - - - You proved my point exactly . . .  Plain Logic | 06/29/06
Wrong, and the 7 month study agrees with me.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/06
Where was this idiot during the whole process?  Physco Dude | 06/30/06
Allegedly illegal  Rick_K | 07/01/06
As Usual, open sourcers read MS see red  mschore@... | 07/03/06
On disabeled support  khaledih@... | 06/29/06
ODF can't "support" people w/disabilities  deverill | 07/01/06
As usual, the MS-ophiles resist with tooth and nail any change that  michael_t | 06/29/06
don't you HATE moronic CAPS?  TonyMcS | 06/29/06
It is only common sense...  michael_t | 06/29/06
Can't be done  rapson | 06/30/06
You are on a pickle here ... wink  michael_t | 06/30/06
M$ format  lederhoden | 07/05/06
Microsoft's senator  whisperycat | 06/30/06
The links won't work!  whisperycat | 06/30/06
Microsoft's Abramoff  mighetto | 06/30/06
As usual the ABMers see only the parts that support their agenda  Boot_Agnostic | 06/30/06
Why is government even involved?  rock06r | 06/30/06
Its about Quality  mighetto | 06/30/06
actually it is...  CMKRNL | 07/05/06
Blah Blah Blah  A.Typical Zork | 06/30/06
This report is WRONG!  linux_for_me | 06/30/06
And you got a law degree where?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/06
Law degree  Hemlock Stones | 06/30/06
Argument, those WITH law degrees  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/01/06
lawyers  lederhoden | 07/05/06
ah the american goverment  toxicfreak | 06/30/06
Belgium - capitol of the EU  mighetto | 06/30/06
Message has been deleted.  techboy_z | 06/30/06
Ignorance of Virgins  mighetto | 06/30/06
Lift the Dialogue  tlgutierrez | 06/30/06
Vote for Pedro  gogone | 07/01/06
ADA  mighetto | 06/30/06
No wonder Mr. Kriss turned tail and ran.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/06
Quin unfairly ran from his Job Over This  mighetto | 06/30/06
The real Issue is what is the long term benefit  michael_t | 06/30/06
No, what is more important is  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/01/06
The only one's left out...  Rick_K | 07/01/06
It appears he is friendly to the disabled.  osreinstall | 07/02/06
What does a file format  Rick_K | 07/03/06
It has everything to do with it.  osreinstall | 07/03/06
Bitty got Owned, yet again  Rick_K | 07/02/06
typical paid off ms politician  viator | 06/30/06
I suggest that you all look to the future  Castanet | 06/30/06
I don't get it...  JDThompson | 06/30/06
Marc Pacheco got it  Rick_K | 07/01/06
Wouldn't it be amazing if after all the outcry ...  George Mitchell | 07/01/06
Implementation can work...  Anton Philidor | 07/01/06
False positive  Rick_K | 07/01/06
Designations  Anton Philidor | 07/03/06
peter quinn  bink1234 | 07/03/06
Politics !mix with technology  blarman | 07/03/06
Another blow to You-Know-who  ghawkins@... | 07/03/06
Does Pacheo Even know how to use...  ju1ce | 07/04/06
You mean like most people,  osreinstall | 07/04/06
15 Seconds of Fame  Sheeva | 07/06/06
Shareholders?  kevanf1 | 07/09/06

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