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"The two companies have been in discussions over the use of Adobe's Portable Document Format, or PDF, within Microsoft's Office suite of applications, the Journal reported, quoting Microsoft General Counsel Brad Smith."

Both of you need to re-read the story. This IS NOT about Adobe strong arming MS, this is about a porpreitary format being USED in a COMMERCIAL product.

Just HOW do you think your Beloved MS would respond to someone using their (MS's) PROPREITARY formats in a COMMERCIAL product ??
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With all the free programs...  Anton Philidor | 06/02/06
Are we sure that all it does is convert?  Michael Kelly | 06/02/06
Microsoft bought a license from Adobe  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
You keep telling us that  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/02/06
Keep watching, it will all come out.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
As I said, it has nothing to do with PDF.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
It's not so much that they're 'scared...'  A_Pickle | 06/02/06
This could break other applications  alcedes | 06/02/06
Would users of "other applications"...  Anton Philidor | 06/02/06
And with all the free pdf programs  Boot_Agnostic | 06/02/06
You're right. Reader has become sluggish...  Anton Philidor | 06/02/06
Reader bogs down modern computers...  A_Pickle | 06/02/06
Can't have it both ways  Roger Ramjet | 06/02/06
Why not?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/02/06
Yeah, but ....  Linux_4u! | 06/02/06
NO... Open Office reads/writes to Office  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
Read it again, No_Ax  bidemytime | 06/02/06
Two words  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/02/06
Ok, STAROFFICE a commecial app.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
Which has ...  Linux_4u! | 06/02/06
Licensed from Microsoft?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
Keep up here, No_Ax  Zeppo9191 | 06/02/06
Zeppo, StarOffice licenses anything from MS?  Boot_Agnostic | 06/02/06
Zeppo, I understand he was confused  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
"Run Along" ??  bidemytime | 06/02/06
Don gets cranky  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/02/06
Who's Don?  bidemytime | 06/02/06
Nope...  John L. Ries | 06/02/06
Microsoft has done nothing wrong here.  JeremyAllison | 06/02/06
Bundling US Citizen Property  mighetto | 06/02/06
How much do you want to bet?  seosamh_z | 06/02/06
StarOffice  neutro511@... | 06/02/06
And of Sun's Star?  Boot_Agnostic | 06/02/06
Report: Microsoft expects Adobe to file antitrust suit  Loverock Davidson | 06/02/06
Spyglass revisted  Spikey_Mike | 06/02/06
OpenXML  Roger Ramjet | 06/02/06
We need that kid from X-Men 3 to drain your Fanboy Powers.  olePigeon | 06/02/06
Good god.  A_Pickle | 06/02/06
Lovey/Anton ...  Linux_4u! | 06/02/06
Keep reading.  3D0G | 06/02/06
Semantics ...  Linux_4u! | 06/02/06
Disagree  richhayes | 06/02/06
Asked for by name  Loverock Davidson | 06/02/06
Ah come on ....  Linux_4u! | 06/02/06
Thats right  Loverock Davidson | 06/02/06
More importantly, Loverock...  Zeppo9191 | 06/02/06
Easily  Loverock Davidson | 06/02/06
This is a perfect example...  ju1ce | 06/02/06
Proprietary but "open", ...  Anton Philidor | 06/02/06
Proprietary format?  Spikey_Mike | 06/02/06
You are so full of it.  A_Pickle | 06/02/06
Big Mistake Adobe  bka1959 | 06/02/06
Probably went more like this...  olePigeon | 06/02/06
Ah...  A_Pickle | 06/02/06
Makes sense  Tim Patterson | 06/02/06
Speculation?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/02/06
My guess  j.m.galvin | 06/02/06
"corruption of the standard"  Anton Philidor | 06/02/06
What about open office?  ITTech001 | 06/02/06
apples and oranges  bitfuzzy | 06/02/06
Again ....  Linux_4u! | 06/02/06
Lotus Notes, StarOffice, Corel, etc. etc.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
No ...  Linux_4u! | 06/02/06
Dude, that has nothing to do with PDF...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
Here's a clue, we are talking about PDF.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
He's using a metaphor, No_Ax. Sheeeesh! (nt)  Zeppo9191 | 06/02/06
No, he is simply clueless.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
Incorrect  j.m.galvin | 06/02/06
You are right ...  Linux_4u! | 06/02/06
Still, with an open format  Boot_Agnostic | 06/02/06
Who knows  j.m.galvin | 06/02/06
Ahh, the voice of wisdom!  Zeppo9191 | 06/02/06
Probably is "Save as..."  Anton Philidor | 06/02/06
adobe on the wrong side  hopefulcoder | 06/02/06
Reverse Engineered?  baggins_z | 06/02/06
There is  osreinstall | 06/02/06
Don't see the point...  Anti_Zealot | 06/02/06
It's all about MS Expression  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
Like they are of MS Publisher?  j.m.galvin | 06/02/06
How much have you used Expression?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
there a few thing seem no right  toxicfreak | 06/02/06
I think this is all speculation...  Monkey_MCSE | 06/02/06
Is it just me...  Rick_K | 06/02/06
Don't think Adobe's going to win this one  John L. Ries | 06/02/06
Ever seen anyone that DID win against M$?  Roger Ramjet | 06/02/06
What about Eolas? (NT)  rapson | 06/02/06
Sun and Java, sort of (NT)  TheHonestTruth | 06/02/06
Guatemalan programmer on Excel code. (NT)  osreinstall | 06/02/06
More information: Adobe charges for its converter.  Anton Philidor | 06/02/06
That's simply Acrobat  j.m.galvin | 06/02/06
Okay.  Anton Philidor | 06/02/06
Anton, I'm surprised at you!  quietLee | 06/02/06
Sun set the conditions on Microsoft's Java  Anton Philidor | 06/02/06
I think we are talking past each other...  quietLee | 06/02/06
And...  Anton Philidor | 06/02/06
Referring only to the JVM situation  quietLee | 06/02/06
What's the problem ....  TheHonestTruth | 06/02/06
$50 bet for any takers  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
Give good odds.  Anton Philidor | 06/02/06
No, you can still cry to Monti boy  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
No_Ax_to_Grind is obsessed with Mario Monti.  B.O.F.H. | 06/02/06
MS is just another developer for this discussion...  htotten | 06/02/06
They did...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/06
I don't think so....  htotten | 06/02/06
Another way to look at it this:  htotten | 06/02/06
They can always clone it.  John L. Ries | 06/02/06
Adobe has it wrong I think  glocks out | 06/02/06
Whose monopoly?  zdarthurhu | 06/02/06
I have this strange feeling...  Colonel Panijk | 06/03/06
Would including PDF in Vista ...  PB_z | 06/03/06
I HATE the PDF file format because...  BlazeEagle | 06/04/06
Adobe is full of liars  ChazzMatt | 06/04/06
Get the optional patches to Emule P2P before Adobe Sues  GreatInca | 06/05/06

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