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---what's tco?---

According to every study I've seen, tco is lower for the Mac over a multi-year period. Often there's a larger initial investment, but over the long haul you save money. But that's an important reason why many businesses don't buy Macs--they're concerned about this year's budget, not the company's budget for the next 5 years.

---What does OSX run to keep away the viruses? No clean up?---

There are a lot of AV products available for the Mac from the usual companies like Mcafee and Symantec. However, since they are reactive products and since there are currently zero Mac viruses, there's no point in owning one, at least not yet.

---They don't have a sterling security record---

Really? Want to point me to all the widespread OSX infections that have caused damage? How about one?

---All things being equal, windows walks away safer---

Really? Wow, what world are you living in?

---I don't have to do ANYTHING to keep windows safe. AVG is 100% automated. MS defender is also 100% automated.---

How much did you pay for AVG and MS defender? How much is your yearly subscription?

---Are you saying Apple is so good it doesn't even need anti virus software? ---

Yes. No viruses exist, so what good is anti-virus software? If there are no definitions to recognize, what is it going to do for you? If/when a virus exists, it will be worth owning, but now, there's no point. It's a waste of money.

---And the keyword for any product is it's usefulness. I may have a 5000.00 dollare rolodex, to use your analogy, but it doesn't keep time any better than my 20 dollar timex. So which do i go with?---

I think you meant "Rolex". And it depends on your needs. The Rolex will certainly last longer than the Timex. And it may be certified for deep water diving, for example. But if your needs are met by the Timex, more power to you. You should definitely go for the cheaper, less powerful, less versatile machine if you have lesser needs. And if you don't mind putting in the time and effort required to maintain that machine.
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The title is deceptive, but the article is on the money.  GSavage777 | 04/10/06
Man - Why is MS always in an uproar  nomorems | 04/10/06
what are you talking about.  xuniL_z | 04/10/06
Earth to space kadet...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
Windows on a Mac makes it a PC  bobiroc | 04/10/06
A Mac has always been a "PC"  MacCanuck | 04/10/06
Well said!  GoPower | 04/10/06
the conclusion is...  xuniL_z | 04/10/06
The PC  bobiroc | 04/10/06
Popularity does not equal quality  tic swayback | 04/10/06
You do the math.  xuniL_z | 04/10/06
1 + 1 = 2  tic swayback | 04/10/06
A few notes  java.user | 04/10/06
A few responses  tic swayback | 04/10/06
And a few more happy  java.user | 04/10/06
Cost factor  tic swayback | 04/10/06
What is this, point, counterpoint?  xuniL_z | 04/10/06
One other thing  xuniL_z | 04/10/06
Count Pointercount  tic swayback | 04/11/06
Great TCO Example tic  MacCanuck | 04/11/06
Sounds like a scientific study to me  xuniL_z | 04/12/06
Wow, xuniL,  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 04/12/06
Dream World  bobiroc | 04/10/06
Sweet dreams versus nightmares  tic swayback | 04/10/06
Your Fuzzy Little Dreams  bobiroc | 04/10/06
Are you going to buy a Mac?  tic swayback | 04/10/06
No Mac for Me  bobiroc | 04/10/06
Your info is out of date  tic swayback | 04/11/06
Bob, you don't roc  ITGuy04 | 04/10/06
Then you need a reality check!  bobiroc | 04/10/06
OS X vulnerability info.  Mark Miller | 04/11/06
Corrections  Mark Miller | 04/11/06
The editor is screwing up the links  Mark Miller | 04/11/06
Thank You  bobiroc | 04/11/06
yeah?  doh123 | 04/12/06
QWERTY Myth  baggins_z | 04/12/06
You're Welcome  MacCanuck | 04/11/06
Need/Want  tic swayback | 04/10/06
Setting the record str8  GSavage777 | 04/10/06
There is one crucial difference, bobiroc!  Rod Hagen | 04/11/06
Same old Song and Dance  bobiroc | 04/11/06
On the contrary  slylabs13 | 04/12/06
Wrong, but right at the same time  ITTech001 | 04/10/06
That assumes 2 things  mdemuth | 04/10/06
True enough  ITTech001 | 04/10/06
The reason users are stunned...  Anton Philidor | 04/10/06
Again though, who is inconsistent?  mdemuth | 04/10/06
Bootcamp IS a gimmick!  Brakiss | 04/10/06
Try 4 to 5 Million per year.  GoPower | 04/10/06
If there weren't a market for it...  Brakiss | 04/10/06
Doesn't make the mac better though  xuniL_z | 04/10/06
Why do you care?  nomorems | 04/10/06
ease up...  xuniL_z | 04/10/06
Following your logic....  tic swayback | 04/10/06
Nice burn Tic!  GoPower | 04/10/06
what planet are you from?  xuniL_z | 04/10/06
Nice burn man  xuniL_z | 04/10/06
Okay, that was a funny post  tic swayback | 04/11/06
The were simply trying to fight town hall.  xuniL_z | 04/12/06
Re:They were trying to fight town hall.  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 04/12/06
Here we go with proprietary again.  GoPower | 04/10/06
And people used to Windows...  Anton Philidor | 04/10/06
Interesting figure, Brakiss!  Rod Hagen | 04/11/06
FInally.  dragontiger | 04/10/06
Jason is hiding somthing  Rick_K | 04/10/06
What is Mac ?  danformen@... | 04/10/06
Well, duh! STFW!  Grayson Peddie | 04/10/06
Yes, it is a gimmick. So what? [nt]  Anti_Zealot | 04/10/06
People will switch  not applicable_z | 04/10/06
Yes! Ha, Ha ,Ha!! Switch  GSavage777 | 04/10/06
Someone finally gets it  jasonp@... | 04/10/06
I mostly agree....  xuniL_z | 04/10/06
Parity...  jasonp@... | 04/10/06
That's not what I meant.  xuniL_z | 04/10/06
Most interesting post yet!  GSavage777 | 04/10/06
People People People  Shelendrea | 04/10/06
Why sue a profit center  tic swayback | 04/10/06
Laugh  Shelendrea | 04/10/06
They'd be suing themselves then  voska | 04/10/06
Wrong assumption  java.user | 04/10/06
Doesn't matter  Shelendrea | 04/10/06
Examples?  java.user | 04/10/06
tic, on this one we agree 100%  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
Doubtful  tic swayback | 04/10/06
As you say, all depends on what the customer wants.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
the customer may want  Monkey_MCSE | 04/10/06
No way  tic swayback | 04/10/06
wait.  xuniL_z | 04/10/06
Never said that  tic swayback | 04/11/06
Bwah ha ha!  nomorems | 04/10/06
Boot Camp ... Fuggedaboutdit  yyuko@... | 04/10/06
Tangled Web  TheBigDee | 04/10/06
Good.  nomorems | 04/10/06
Do some research  TonyMcS | 04/10/06
Charles...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
Dreaming,  nomorems | 04/10/06
No, it's a real product...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
Waiting for  ITGuy04 | 04/10/06
Doesn't work that way  toadlife | 04/11/06
It doesn't HAVE to work that way  Michael Kelly | 04/11/06
You know what they say...  xuniL_z | 04/10/06
Come on, don't shoot his dreams down.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
Everybody wins  tic swayback | 04/10/06
Indeed!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
Saving/Making money for Microsoft...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
And before you say...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
It's a win win situation for both  voska | 04/10/06
Yup, I agree with you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
MS can EASILY take it out of the "gimmick" catagory.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
stop blowing smoke  ITGuy04 | 04/10/06
Apple will just invent compatable verisons of...  GSavage777 | 04/10/06
They have tried and FAILED for years.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
Name one  ITGuy04 | 04/10/06
Can't none were ever worth remembering.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
now you are just being ridiculous  xuniL_z | 04/12/06
No point to it  tic swayback | 04/10/06
5 answers  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
Funny think about Office for Mac  voska | 04/10/06
Works fine here  ITGuy04 | 04/10/06
I've used both side by side  voska | 04/11/06
I own both Mac/PC Office Suite & both Suck!  GSavage777 | 04/10/06
Then grab a copy of  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
My exact point.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
A few further responses  tic swayback | 04/10/06
Wrong again tic  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
Wrong again no ax  ITGuy04 | 04/10/06
One point  java.user | 04/10/06
How can I be wrong when you beg me for answers?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/11/06
Oh dear  tic swayback | 04/11/06
naw...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/11/06
What about Apple isn't a gimmick?  Omch'Ar | 04/10/06
What's worse?  tic swayback | 04/10/06
Buwahahaha come on tic.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/10/06
Best go re-read David's article  tic swayback | 04/10/06
Are you for real?  xuniL_z | 04/10/06
Puhleeze  ITGuy04 | 04/10/06
Confused?  java.user | 04/10/06
Considering....  ITGuy04 | 04/10/06
You should reconsider wink  java.user | 04/10/06
No need to reconsder  ITGuy04 | 04/10/06
Still not doing your research eh? happy  java.user | 04/10/06
Fixing link  java.user | 04/10/06
Last attempt  java.user | 04/10/06
WMA sucks  voska | 04/11/06
May be a gimmick  ITGuy04 | 04/10/06
So that makes you an "iamasheepWindowsUser"?  GoPower | 04/10/06
YES! So true!  GSavage777 | 04/10/06
So what if it's a gimmick?  Mark Miller | 04/11/06
I don't understand the point of this article ...  worknman | 04/10/06
ok  CobraA1 | 04/11/06
How many will switch?  michael_t | 04/10/06
I'm happy  TonyMcS | 04/10/06
The real question is OSX on PC  Buncha | 04/10/06
You're being too cynical  Mark Miller | 04/11/06
Which OS will become the default?  An_Axe_to_Grind | 04/11/06
Depends  voska | 04/11/06
Gaming .... ahhhh!  An_Axe_to_Grind | 04/11/06
Without a shared clipboard, it's still a no-go.  paul613 | 04/11/06
The Underlying Assumption.  johnay | 04/11/06
I Ain't Even Interested...  WildcatRay | 04/11/06
Makes it a pc  kjcreamer@... | 04/11/06
Multiple OSes of the past  Update victim | 04/11/06
Do you remember when it was the Mac Mini ...  ShadeTree | 04/11/06
I've seen Paris  mnorthup@... | 04/11/06
Yas...yas...a GREAT gimmick.....BUT....  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 04/11/06
So what?!!  mwward | 04/11/06
Its all about results  25_servers | 04/12/06
It's not a religion guys  slylabs13 | 04/12/06
It's not the OS  Marc Thibault | 04/16/06
Is that an Apple You're Licking?  craigsolve | 04/19/06
RE: Dare I say this aloud? Boot Camp's a gimmick  DonBurnett | 03/31/08
RE: Dare I say this aloud? Boot Camp's a gimmick  DonBurnett | 03/31/08

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