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Bill Gates Lies to Congress about Microsoft's H-1B Wages
Bill Gates Lies to Congress about Microsoft's H-1B Wages

Contact: Mr. Kim Berry - President of www.programmersguild.org
SACRAMENTO March 19, 2006 - Bill Gates lied to the U.S. Congress last week. He misrepresented that Microsoft?s H-1b jobs for new graduates with no experience ?start at about $100,000 per year.? In fact in FY 2006 only 12.4% of Microsoft?s LCAs for H-1bs paid $100k or more, and these were for directors, managers, and legal counsel rather than for new graduates.

Bill is gambling that Congress will not bother to take 5 minutes and check the facts. It?s probably a safe gamble.

The current H-1B cap is 85,000 per year ? arguably exceeding the rate of job creation. What limit does Bill Gates call for? He wants to flood in an unlimited number of H-1B workers: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5687039.html (Could we at least compromise and cap it at one million per year?)

The Programmers Guild has documented the facts of how H-1b visas are actually used by industry on its website: H-1B visas are used in San Francisco predominately for underpaid, averaged skilled positions for which employers should have no trouble finding U.S. candidates:

www.programmersguild.org/sfh1b/

INCREASING THE LIMIT DOES NOT FIX THE PROBLEM

The way to fix the H-1B shortage is to stop issuing them to $17/hour accountants and average programmers - by requiring that employers first consider U.S. workers than then pay an actual comparable salary to the workers. Congressman Pascrell has drafted such a proposal: www.pascrell.house.gov/issues2.cfm?id=11398

Somehow Microsoft able to thrive with the minimal H-1B workers during the mid-1990s.

MICROSOFT NOT RECRUITING U.S. GRADUATES

The dropdown list at this page contains the schools where Microsoft recruits: www.microsoft.com/college/yourschool.aspx

Microsoft does not recruit at any of the California State University schools, including Cal Poly. There were not at CSU Sacramento a week ago: www.ecs.csus.edu/career/career-day/job-fair.php


The Computer Science program at U.C. Davis, where Norm Matloff teaches, failed to make the cut. (Norm: I guess you are not turning out ?Microsoft? material ? like the schools in India are.)


Many states, such as Nevada are completely overlooked.
MICROSOFT LAYING OFF U.S. WORKERS

According to the Seattle Post Intelligencer website, Microsoft has been laying off its U.S. workers. These are only the publicly disclosed events, and are independent from dismissals due to failure to perform:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/venture/layoff.asp

Company # of Date
Layoffs

Microsoft 72 08/05/2005
Microsoft 62 01/21/2005
Microsoft 49 09/02/2004
Microsoft 76 08/23/2004
Microsoft 20 06/22/2004
Microsoft 40 02/15/2004
Microsoft 161 06/27/2003
Microsoft 61 04/22/2002
Microsoft 168 01/23/2002
LOW DEMAND FOR COMPUTER SCIENCE GRADUATES

Of the 108 employers at the engineering CSUS career fair, only 24 were seeking computer science graduates. In contrast, 79 were seeking civil engineers. What message does that send to freshmen who are choosing a major ? that the majority of employers have no need for U.S. computer science graduates?

Finally, see the Gates/Abramoff connection here: www.anamericanscam.com/

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"guest workers"? get real. Try "cheap labor paid for by our tax dollars"  HypnoToad | 03/31/06
okay, I understand most, and argree with some; but....  el1jones | 03/31/06
tax dollars  Linux Geek | 03/31/06
Too bad....  Spoon Jabber | 03/31/06
Partially true  Art Royce | 03/31/06
Right on...  Mixotic | 03/31/06
American "Entitlements"  Vicissidude | 03/31/06
They need to get a reality check  ajapierce | 03/31/06
M$ is at it again!  Linux Geek | 03/31/06
I like Microsoft, but...  ObiWayneKenobi | 03/31/06
Greed  think_tank | 03/31/06
Wake up  Protector | 03/31/06
Uhhhh, dude!  Spoon Jabber | 03/31/06
same point  Protector | 03/31/06
It might seem so...  Spoon Jabber | 03/31/06
Yes you can.. illegally.  maxo_z | 04/03/06
H-1B Visas should be ended.  Letophoro | 03/31/06
No, but they should be limited  balsover | 03/31/06
No.. it's about risk vs reward.  maxo_z | 04/03/06
new career model needed for techies  dmennie | 04/03/06
H-1B history is full of broken promises  tprince@... | 03/31/06
I agree... it's an abuse...  el1jones | 03/31/06
Be happy.  Outside T. Box | 03/31/06
Doesn't matter...  BitTwiddler | 03/31/06
And Bush wants more people to learn High-Tech  BitTwiddler | 03/31/06
Maybe you missed the part....  Spoon Jabber | 03/31/06
I hear just fine  BitTwiddler | 03/31/06
missing parts  Colonel Panijk | 03/31/06
Competitive? Adapt? You are a real genius.  Jake Danger | 03/31/06
It is not that simple  cyberpundit | 04/06/06
When corps say Jump..Congress/Pres. says "How High"  redstone | 03/31/06
Let Me Play Devil's Advocate  serpentmage | 03/31/06
US had very limited immigration from 1930- to 1960s..  redstone | 03/31/06
Good post  think_tank | 03/31/06
If you didn't pay less for what you buy...  Anton Philidor | 03/31/06
Like your points...  serpentmage | 03/31/06
Devil's Advocate  OldMarine | 03/31/06
Blocking immigration is not the answer  interlocutor | 03/31/06
Are you in the US on a H1B visa?  balsover | 03/31/06
Reply  OldMarine | 03/31/06
Coincidence? You decide...  3D0G | 03/31/06
The corporate spiel is really getting old.  Jake Danger | 03/31/06
Your skills are only worth...  Mixotic | 03/31/06
"Get over it". That's a real useful answer.  Jake Danger | 03/31/06
Why denigrate a country?  cyberpundit | 04/06/06
we don't need to import workers  vchau@... | 05/15/06
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100% of people in the US are immigrants...  Anton Philidor | 03/31/06
Time to start the competition...  Mixotic | 03/31/06
RE: Time to start the competition...  mlgoff | 03/31/06
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Manager-centric view....  redstone | 03/31/06
Exactly!  duck01 | 03/31/06
I disagree....  redstone | 03/31/06
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H1B for Management  Unicorn1B | 03/31/06
Emotional or ignorant response  duck01 | 03/31/06
Your actions are part of the problem.  Jake Danger | 03/31/06
What would you do?  duck01 | 03/31/06
I by myself can't do much.  Jake Danger | 03/31/06
Silly  duck01 | 03/31/06
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Actually  zkiwi | 03/31/06
They are not getting that 90k job  balsover | 03/31/06
Foolish assessment of american workers  Protector | 03/31/06
Cheap Labor? - How come?  grantespie@... | 03/31/06
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Maybe too decisive.  Anton Philidor | 03/31/06
The laws are not enforced  balsover | 04/01/06
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Annual rate of new H-1B's already exceeds 115,000..  thetruth_z | 03/31/06
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IT Would Stay in US Regardless  Vicissidude | 03/31/06
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