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Since 3.1 was released, Microsoft has slowed down it's output of each new OS. The distance between XP and Vista-nearly 6 years-is a record. No matter, there has been a clear ramping-up of costs, but not value. They bloat each new version with more stuff, but the majority of it isnt too useful. They make sure it pays the bills, however.
Consider this: A private individual who wants only to upgrade from XP Pro and Office 2003 Pro will pay just under $1,000 for the "honor" of owning in the case of Vista, not complete and buggy software.
("Sigh") It's a tough market and Bill has to send the "Gates-Bot" to a good college. Unfortunatly, the costs have gotten out of control. That does not impact the average cyber-Joe too well.
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I am sure...  Qbt | 02/26/06
They want to sell it to you twice...  jinko | 02/27/06
Uhuh?  Qbt | 02/26/06
HEY...I resemble that!  flatliner | 02/26/06
And the applications will be key...  Zogg | 02/27/06
Idiot  crampy20 | 02/27/06
Idiots  Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
Privilege escalation would require exploiting a software flaw.  Zogg | 02/27/06
Not difficult to persuade people.  Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
Confusioon?  Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
Confusion? Let's try this one more time...  Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
Message has been deleted.  crampy20 | 02/27/06
Message has been deleted.  crampy20 | 02/27/06
What dream world are you in?  ajole | 02/27/06
Such Balls  crampy20 | 02/28/06
Yup malware that does nothing much at all...Very Dark indead!!! Brrrrrrrrr  Laff | 02/27/06
If you want everything and the kitchen sink ...  ShadeTree | 02/27/06
Things change with time...That's been my experience.  Laff | 02/27/06
Well then all the MS bashers will cry "bloatware"  voska | 02/27/06
The home split seems sensible.  Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
To both Voska and Anton....but in my concept people  Laff | 02/27/06
Apple sells upgrades...  Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
Uh huh...  Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
Uh huh... (Oy... ZDNet's got some issues again today)  Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
Wolfie...Well since the admin people will be installing  Laff | 02/27/06
More like UNinstall...  Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
Wolfie I would think the master or ghost as my PC people  Laff | 02/27/06
PC Lifecycle  ajole | 02/27/06
What do you need  samp_z | 02/27/06
You probably don't need ....  ShadeTree | 02/27/06
ST, let's reverse your reasoning  sykandtyed | 02/27/06
Pricing is not set yet ...  ShadeTree | 02/27/06
Not so sure about that  voska | 02/27/06
See, that's non-PC thinking  ajole | 02/27/06
But that's Microsoft has always done  voska | 02/28/06
Reason for the versions  samp_z | 02/27/06
Was it the bundling itself that was at issue or was it  Laff | 02/27/06
Question is does it cost less?  voska | 02/27/06
Why change what already works?  tic swayback | 02/27/06
Isn't the OSX dock just a fancy taskbar?  ajole | 02/27/06
Close but no cigar  tic swayback | 02/28/06
Well done  Richard Flude | 02/26/06
An important milestone in every project ...  Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
Multiple versions is just multiple was to charge  Fred Fredrickson | 02/27/06
But they'll all be called Windows.  Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
Mac OSX is cheaper? NOPE!  ajole | 02/27/06
way cheaper = way slower  crampy20 | 02/28/06
multiple version is a pain  JasonL31 | 02/28/06
...ways to charge  Joe Donovan | 03/01/06
re: ...ways to charge  Russedl | 03/05/06
D'oh. It's called market segmentation  RexStardust | 08/29/06
Dumb Move - What a Nightmare!  jpr75_z | 02/27/06
How has anything changed?  ShadeTree | 02/27/06
One more edition?  Laff | 02/27/06
With Vista you can have one that covers ...  ShadeTree | 02/27/06
Still no need......  Laff | 02/27/06
Just because you have bought into the one ...  ShadeTree | 02/27/06
Well first of all no one puts a gun to my head and forces me  Laff | 02/27/06
Well, Jim whatever is your point?  ShadeTree | 02/27/06
Well it sounded like you were claiming some advantage  Laff | 02/27/06
customer confusion?  Russedl | 03/05/06
We can do that already...in reverse...sort of  ajole | 02/27/06
And three of those are actually dispatched in mass...  BitTwiddler | 02/27/06
just marketing no new code  Linux Geek | 02/27/06
Microsoft boxes up Vista  Loverock Davidson | 02/27/06
You think it's good?  ju1ce | 02/27/06
Yes I do  Loverock Davidson | 02/27/06
I think the other draw back...  ju1ce | 02/27/06
Maintenance costs...  Russedl | 03/05/06
Exactly  Real World | 02/27/06
Damn straight.  Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
Damn straight. (ARGH! Feedback errors strike again)  Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
Is Vista going to have the activation thing  wexwimpy@... | 02/27/06
Is it kind of like OSX?  MacGeek2121 | 03/02/06
I Think There Should Be Just One or Two Versions  P. Douglas | 02/27/06
Yes, all versions would come without IE, you pay $10 to enable IE, or  DonnieBoy | 02/27/06
One problem there  voska | 02/27/06
10 bucks less?  ju1ce | 02/27/06
You have it backwards.  Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
Firefox is not free  Real World | 02/27/06
You're kidding right?  ju1ce | 02/27/06
You must be selective in who you convert  Real World | 02/27/06
Grandparents maybe?  ju1ce | 02/27/06
Just like those comercials  voska | 02/27/06
Searching IS an advanced web skill...  ajole | 02/27/06
Nope  Real World | 02/28/06
They may be a moron  voska | 02/28/06
ms bolted IE to the OS because they did not want people to choose  JasonL31 | 02/28/06
"don't want people to choose" ? horsepoo  RexStardust | 08/29/06
It would also...  ju1ce | 02/27/06
It's all well and good... EXCEPT...  Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
As far as the customer is concerned, just one version with the ability to  DonnieBoy | 02/27/06
Are you kidding?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
Bolted != Bundled  Michael Kelly | 02/27/06
Integrated is a better word than bundled.  Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
And the flaw with that reasoning  Michael Kelly | 02/27/06
And the flaw with that reasoning (hopefully everything will post this time)  Michael Kelly | 02/27/06
Wasted space.  Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
Well see...  Michael Kelly | 02/27/06
If I'm replacing an application because of security concerns...  Zogg | 02/27/06
Silly argument  voska | 02/27/06
Just wondering if that extends to OSX...  ajole | 02/27/06
Right, customers LOVE integration WITHOUT bundling or bolting.  DonnieBoy | 02/27/06
Right, that's why everyone switched to Linux...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
Good (if dodgy) marketing  thunderdome1 | 03/01/06
Integration means being an inseparable part...  Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
How many..  Russedl | 03/05/06
Bundled or Bolted, customers don't like it.  DonnieBoy | 02/27/06
90% - 95% seem to like it fine.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
95% probably don't care  voska | 02/27/06
Ah, but it's there when you want to use it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
Now don't be a spoilsport Voska  IT_User | 02/27/06
Try XMPlay for sound...  Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
I prefer WinAmp for audio  voska | 02/28/06
ms bolted the firewall to xp - my old firewall stopped working sad  JasonL31 | 02/28/06
People Don't want a stripped down OS  samp_z | 02/27/06
I agree and disagree at the same time...  ju1ce | 02/27/06
No, but people always like options. You can give everybody what they want  DonnieBoy | 02/27/06
Only 90% - 95% agree with you..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
People don't know what as OS is  IT_User | 02/27/06
optional uninstalls is all I want, no bolting apps to the os  JasonL31 | 02/28/06
This is pure insanity...  BitTwiddler | 02/27/06
You forgot about the 7th version  mlrodman@... | 02/27/06
Multiplies my QA costs by 6.  LittleGuy | 02/27/06
Not exactly!  ShadeTree | 02/28/06
If its modular, then why cant I fully uninstall IE, Windows Media Player...  xunil skcor | 02/28/06
because ms is abusing their monopoly power imo  JasonL31 | 02/28/06
didn't Bill Gates testify under oath  mobrien_12@... | 02/27/06
what' your point?  GaryN | 03/03/06
Anyone remember all that testimony?  tic swayback | 02/27/06
But it's the ECC that insisted...  Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
Different case  tic swayback | 02/27/06
The ECC version is an example.  Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
And all these versions...  Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
But isn't that confusing?  tic swayback | 02/28/06
I would buy windows null  ajole | 02/27/06
Guess over span of time, they've worked it out  Boot_Agnostic | 02/27/06
Who has worked it out?  tic swayback | 02/27/06
How about 3 Ultimate editions  314 | 02/27/06
Since the Ultimate Edition is a superset ...  ShadeTree | 02/27/06
Solitare so real - it uses a digital pic of your kitchen table  314 | 02/27/06
People, pick one and buy it...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
Oh, so we're not allowed to tell MS  Michael Kelly | 02/27/06
Sure yoiu may rant, won't do anything.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
Do they?  tic swayback | 02/27/06
No_Ax why would ANYONE believe you?  mdsmedia | 02/28/06
Actually No Ax MS was handed the desktop market by IBM  Laff | 02/28/06
your right, ms no longer listens to consummers sad NT  JasonL31 | 02/28/06
but it sure would be nice to have a OS without all the bolted apps  JasonL31 | 02/28/06
No_Ax avoids one of his old criticisms  Chad_z | 02/27/06
Nice rant, do you have a point.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
fragmentation...  JasonL31 | 02/28/06
do we have a choice?  JasonL31 | 02/28/06
ZDNet, FIX YOUR FRIGGIN LINKS!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
Their using MS entrprise edition on MS 2000  sykandtyed | 02/27/06
Unfortunately they use *nix.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
lol  JasonL31 | 02/28/06
wow, work getting to ya - lol NT  JasonL31 | 02/28/06
Maybe giving MS too much credit, but...  ajole | 02/27/06
I pick....NONE...Linux 4 me please, no DRM to limit my fair rights!!!  xunil skcor | 02/28/06
To all of the many NBM posts on this  IT Scion | 02/28/06
Because they forked up  Boot_Agnostic | 02/28/06
Not the same  thunderdome1 | 03/01/06
Do Microsoft actually want to launch multiple versions  mrjonno | 03/01/06
MS vista  bb1040 | 03/01/06
Vista confusion  Pazooza | 03/01/06
lol, Your kidding right?  GaryN | 03/03/06
Version still Missing  st1_z | 03/02/06
what if ms went into the auto business?  GaryN | 03/03/06
You have got to be kidding me  george_park@... | 03/03/06
Vista = Edsel / OS X - Mustang?  richweed | 03/03/06
nope  livefree | 03/07/06
Microsoft  texmel | 03/22/06
They have  zal@... | 03/22/06
vista to much to pay for !  kevinsmith1168 | 09/06/06
Bad Joke of a Price Sx  buzzy1400@... | 11/02/06

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