I am sure...
Qbt | 02/26/06
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They want to sell it to you twice...
jinko | 02/27/06
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Uhuh?
Qbt | 02/26/06
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HEY...I resemble that!
flatliner | 02/26/06
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And the applications will be key...
Zogg | 02/27/06
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Idiot
crampy20 | 02/27/06
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Idiots
Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
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Privilege escalation would require exploiting a software flaw.
Zogg | 02/27/06
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Not difficult to persuade people.
Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
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Confusioon?
Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
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Confusion? Let's try this one more time...
Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
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Message has been deleted.
crampy20 | 02/27/06
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Message has been deleted.
crampy20 | 02/27/06
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What dream world are you in?
ajole | 02/27/06
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Such Balls
crampy20 | 02/28/06
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Yup malware that does nothing much at all...Very Dark indead!!! Brrrrrrrrr
Laff | 02/27/06
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If you want everything and the kitchen sink ...
ShadeTree | 02/27/06
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Things change with time...That's been my experience.
Laff | 02/27/06
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Well then all the MS bashers will cry "bloatware"
voska | 02/27/06
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The home split seems sensible.
Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
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To both Voska and Anton....but in my concept people
Laff | 02/27/06
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Apple sells upgrades...
Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
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Uh huh...
Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
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Uh huh... (Oy... ZDNet's got some issues again today)
Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
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Wolfie...Well since the admin people will be installing
Laff | 02/27/06
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More like UNinstall...
Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
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Wolfie I would think the master or ghost as my PC people
Laff | 02/27/06
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PC Lifecycle
ajole | 02/27/06
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What do you need
samp_z | 02/27/06
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You probably don't need ....
ShadeTree | 02/27/06
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ST, let's reverse your reasoning
sykandtyed | 02/27/06
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Pricing is not set yet ...
ShadeTree | 02/27/06
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Not so sure about that
voska | 02/27/06
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See, that's non-PC thinking
ajole | 02/27/06
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But that's Microsoft has always done
voska | 02/28/06
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Reason for the versions
samp_z | 02/27/06
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Was it the bundling itself that was at issue or was it
Laff | 02/27/06
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Question is does it cost less?
voska | 02/27/06
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Why change what already works?
tic swayback | 02/27/06
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Isn't the OSX dock just a fancy taskbar?
ajole | 02/27/06
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Close but no cigar
tic swayback | 02/28/06
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Well done
Richard Flude | 02/26/06
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An important milestone in every project ...
Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
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Multiple versions is just multiple was to charge
Fred Fredrickson | 02/27/06
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But they'll all be called Windows.
Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
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Mac OSX is cheaper? NOPE!
ajole | 02/27/06
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way cheaper = way slower
crampy20 | 02/28/06
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multiple version is a pain
JasonL31 | 02/28/06
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...ways to charge
Joe Donovan | 03/01/06
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re: ...ways to charge
Russedl | 03/05/06
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D'oh. It's called market segmentation
RexStardust | 08/29/06
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Dumb Move - What a Nightmare!
jpr75_z | 02/27/06
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How has anything changed?
ShadeTree | 02/27/06
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One more edition?
Laff | 02/27/06
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With Vista you can have one that covers ...
ShadeTree | 02/27/06
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Still no need......
Laff | 02/27/06
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Just because you have bought into the one ...
ShadeTree | 02/27/06
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Well first of all no one puts a gun to my head and forces me
Laff | 02/27/06
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Well, Jim whatever is your point?
ShadeTree | 02/27/06
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Well it sounded like you were claiming some advantage
Laff | 02/27/06
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customer confusion?
Russedl | 03/05/06
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We can do that already...in reverse...sort of
ajole | 02/27/06
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And three of those are actually dispatched in mass...
BitTwiddler | 02/27/06
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just marketing no new code
Linux Geek | 02/27/06
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Microsoft boxes up Vista
Loverock Davidson | 02/27/06
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You think it's good?
ju1ce | 02/27/06
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Yes I do
Loverock Davidson | 02/27/06
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I think the other draw back...
ju1ce | 02/27/06
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Maintenance costs...
Russedl | 03/05/06
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Exactly
Real World | 02/27/06
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Damn straight.
Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
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Damn straight. (ARGH! Feedback errors strike again)
Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
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Is Vista going to have the activation thing
wexwimpy@... | 02/27/06
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Is it kind of like OSX?
MacGeek2121 | 03/02/06
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I Think There Should Be Just One or Two Versions
P. Douglas | 02/27/06
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Yes, all versions would come without IE, you pay $10 to enable IE, or
DonnieBoy | 02/27/06
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One problem there
voska | 02/27/06
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10 bucks less?
ju1ce | 02/27/06
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You have it backwards.
Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
|
 
Firefox is not free
Real World | 02/27/06
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You're kidding right?
ju1ce | 02/27/06
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You must be selective in who you convert
Real World | 02/27/06
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Grandparents maybe?
ju1ce | 02/27/06
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Just like those comercials
voska | 02/27/06
|
   
Searching IS an advanced web skill...
ajole | 02/27/06
|
   
Nope
Real World | 02/28/06
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They may be a moron
voska | 02/28/06
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ms bolted IE to the OS because they did not want people to choose
JasonL31 | 02/28/06
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"don't want people to choose" ? horsepoo
RexStardust | 08/29/06
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It would also...
ju1ce | 02/27/06
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It's all well and good... EXCEPT...
Wolfie2K3 | 02/27/06
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As far as the customer is concerned, just one version with the ability to
DonnieBoy | 02/27/06
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Are you kidding?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
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Bolted != Bundled
Michael Kelly | 02/27/06
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Integrated is a better word than bundled.
Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
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And the flaw with that reasoning
Michael Kelly | 02/27/06
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And the flaw with that reasoning (hopefully everything will post this time)
Michael Kelly | 02/27/06
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Wasted space.
Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
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Well see...
Michael Kelly | 02/27/06
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If I'm replacing an application because of security concerns...
Zogg | 02/27/06
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Silly argument
voska | 02/27/06
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Just wondering if that extends to OSX...
ajole | 02/27/06
|
   
Right, customers LOVE integration WITHOUT bundling or bolting.
DonnieBoy | 02/27/06
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Right, that's why everyone switched to Linux...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
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Good (if dodgy) marketing
thunderdome1 | 03/01/06
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Integration means being an inseparable part...
Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
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How many..
Russedl | 03/05/06
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Bundled or Bolted, customers don't like it.
DonnieBoy | 02/27/06
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90% - 95% seem to like it fine.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
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95% probably don't care
voska | 02/27/06
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Ah, but it's there when you want to use it.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
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Now don't be a spoilsport Voska
IT_User | 02/27/06
|
    
Try XMPlay for sound...
Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
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I prefer WinAmp for audio
voska | 02/28/06
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ms bolted the firewall to xp - my old firewall stopped working
JasonL31 | 02/28/06
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People Don't want a stripped down OS
samp_z | 02/27/06
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I agree and disagree at the same time...
ju1ce | 02/27/06
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No, but people always like options. You can give everybody what they want
DonnieBoy | 02/27/06
|
 
Only 90% - 95% agree with you..
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
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People don't know what as OS is
IT_User | 02/27/06
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optional uninstalls is all I want, no bolting apps to the os
JasonL31 | 02/28/06
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This is pure insanity...
BitTwiddler | 02/27/06
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You forgot about the 7th version
mlrodman@... | 02/27/06
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Multiplies my QA costs by 6.
LittleGuy | 02/27/06
|

Not exactly!
ShadeTree | 02/28/06
|
 
If its modular, then why cant I fully uninstall IE, Windows Media Player...
xunil skcor | 02/28/06
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because ms is abusing their monopoly power imo
JasonL31 | 02/28/06
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didn't Bill Gates testify under oath
mobrien_12@... | 02/27/06
|

what' your point?
GaryN | 03/03/06
|
Anyone remember all that testimony?
tic swayback | 02/27/06
|

But it's the ECC that insisted...
Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
|
 
Different case
tic swayback | 02/27/06
|
  
The ECC version is an example.
Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
|
  
And all these versions...
Anton Philidor | 02/27/06
|
   
But isn't that confusing?
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
 
I would buy windows null
ajole | 02/27/06
|

Guess over span of time, they've worked it out
Boot_Agnostic | 02/27/06
|
 
Who has worked it out?
tic swayback | 02/27/06
|
How about 3 Ultimate editions
314 | 02/27/06
|

Since the Ultimate Edition is a superset ...
ShadeTree | 02/27/06
|
Solitare so real - it uses a digital pic of your kitchen table
314 | 02/27/06
|
People, pick one and buy it...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
|

Oh, so we're not allowed to tell MS
Michael Kelly | 02/27/06
|
 
Sure yoiu may rant, won't do anything.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
|
  
Do they?
tic swayback | 02/27/06
|
  
No_Ax why would ANYONE believe you?
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|
   
Actually No Ax MS was handed the desktop market by IBM
Laff | 02/28/06
|
  
your right, ms no longer listens to consummers NT
JasonL31 | 02/28/06
|
   
but it sure would be nice to have a OS without all the bolted apps
JasonL31 | 02/28/06
|

No_Ax avoids one of his old criticisms
Chad_z | 02/27/06
|
 
Nice rant, do you have a point.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
|
  
fragmentation...
JasonL31 | 02/28/06
|

do we have a choice?
JasonL31 | 02/28/06
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ZDNet, FIX YOUR FRIGGIN LINKS!!!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
|

Their using MS entrprise edition on MS 2000
sykandtyed | 02/27/06
|
 
Unfortunately they use *nix.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/27/06
|
 
lol
JasonL31 | 02/28/06
|

wow, work getting to ya - lol NT
JasonL31 | 02/28/06
|
Maybe giving MS too much credit, but...
ajole | 02/27/06
|
I pick....NONE...Linux 4 me please, no DRM to limit my fair rights!!!
xunil skcor | 02/28/06
|
To all of the many NBM posts on this
IT Scion | 02/28/06
|

Because they forked up
Boot_Agnostic | 02/28/06
|

Not the same
thunderdome1 | 03/01/06
|
Do Microsoft actually want to launch multiple versions
mrjonno | 03/01/06
|
MS vista
bb1040 | 03/01/06
|
Vista confusion
Pazooza | 03/01/06
|

lol, Your kidding right?
GaryN | 03/03/06
|
Version still Missing
st1_z | 03/02/06
|
what if ms went into the auto business?
GaryN | 03/03/06
|
You have got to be kidding me
george_park@... | 03/03/06
|
Vista = Edsel / OS X - Mustang?
richweed | 03/03/06
|

nope
livefree | 03/07/06
|
Microsoft
texmel | 03/22/06
|

They have
zal@... | 03/22/06
|
vista to much to pay for !
kevinsmith1168 | 09/06/06
|
Bad Joke of a Price Sx
buzzy1400@... | 11/02/06
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