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Not paranoia anymore
In too many cases, the visas go to Third-World citizens who are more than willing to be underpaid to get the experience. I don't know too many Europeans thus far coming to the US for a pittance.

While most are just attempting to get a skill to take home, you cannot deny that there have been some that come over specifically to learn from the inside for not so noble purposes. Many of the terrorists have had Western educations, some in the United States. But back to the point...

The people of the United States are being told that there is no work for them, but then see the H-1B visa holders moving into the jobs the Americans were laid off from. Not exactly a good way to treat your own citizens, no matter what you may think you need for your company.

The latest trend for those who think a government job is the answer is subtle: Instead of paying a steady wage, the supervisor will get to determine whether you "deserve" one, no matter how high you rated. Seniority is on the block and the wages will be "market-based," but the pay scale is definitely on a par with the H-1B visa scales. There is a "take it or leave it" attitude here, complete with the loss of anything resembling fair play. Problem is, with all the losses in the private sector, there is no place to go if you leave. So everyone stays in whatever job they have, rabbitting on in hopes their job doesn't go contract.

No wonder people get p*ssed!
Posted by: AbsolutelyNot   Posted on: 02/19/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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If a company needs a H1B  Nigel Johnstone | 02/18/04
Huh?  CobraA1 | 02/18/04
If your major is Comp. Sci...  emartin_z | 02/18/04
Not even Civil Service  AbsolutelyNot | 02/18/04
If your major is Comp. Sci...  SC-man | 02/19/04
Not True  voska | 02/19/04
Think NAFTA....  Art Royce | 02/19/04
"American association of ....."  Nigel Johnstone | 02/18/04
Finally FSF and Microsoft agree on something  bjornafreeman@... | 02/19/04
Um...  AbsolutelyNot | 02/19/04
Nice...  AbsolutelyNot | 02/18/04
re; nice virus?  mjimih | 02/18/04
Re: Nice and not in a good way  DonB_z | 02/18/04
I do NOT see the politicians or CEO's living in mud-huts......  SC-man | 02/19/04
Loosers  ats_z | 02/18/04
No quite true  Nigel Johnstone | 02/19/04
Sorry, but you are wrong  Art Royce | 02/19/04
Business Elites  jfredpete | 02/18/04
Laid off due to H1B  four12@... | 02/18/04
Get use to it... It will become the norm for most skilled jobs  DonB_z | 02/18/04
I feel sorry for our kids  JWatson77 | 02/19/04
Wow  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 02/19/04
Wow  SC-man | 02/19/04
what john  JWatson77 | 02/19/04
No, I don't  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 02/19/04
That's actually not true  voska | 02/19/04
That's actually not true  SC-man | 02/20/04
Not paranoia anymore  AbsolutelyNot | 02/19/04
I've seen a lot of that  voska | 02/19/04
Get rid of H-1B visa's, there are many skilled professional out of work!  DonB_z | 02/18/04
no sit  JWatson77 | 02/19/04
proves h1-b used for cheap not skilled labor  JWatson77 | 02/19/04
Exactly  jfrankcarr | 02/19/04
Reading the responses from...  BitTwiddler | 02/19/04
sounds like a good deal  ttsay | 02/19/04
re: sounds like a good deal  Pebkac Charlie | 02/19/04
re: sounds like a good deal  SC-man | 02/19/04
re: sounds like a good deal  hlampert | 02/19/04
re: sounds like a good deal  SC-man | 02/20/04
your right  JWatson77 | 02/19/04
Gee I wish I knew those people  Hanover Phist | 02/19/04
Gee I wish I knew those people  SC-man | 02/20/04
Where's mine?  AbsolutelyNot | 02/19/04
Where's mine? (Go Get It)  SC-man | 02/20/04
Good idea, Jim.  gordon@... | 02/19/04
How old are you?  Art Royce | 02/19/04
Go for it!  voska | 02/19/04
Not!  AbsolutelyNot | 02/19/04
If there is actually a need for H1B's, then require...  Anton Philidor | 02/19/04
H-1B = SCAB  Telexer | 02/19/04
Oh no! They might have to hire Americans!  Xunil_Sierutuf | 02/19/04
H1 visa, L1 visa and Outsourcing --  null | 02/19/04
Two points.... L1 .. and one most didn?t consider  Uralbas | 02/19/04
Using an old H1B  jmbhagat | 05/02/04

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