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You assume too much about Redmond.
You have some notion that the Redmond campus is a sort of Fort Knox-like establishment with people having to go through massive steel doors that can only be opened by insertng keys simulatneously and tunrning them on a count of ten...

It's not like that, you know happy.

The word "campus" is actually a very apt description of Microsoft's Redmond base. Until just a few years ago, there were even buildings that still ran their own electricity generators. Windows 98 was on the shelves before Trey himself got rid of his VT 320 and started using Outlook, instead of pine.

In part, this is deliberate. No matter how big it got, the founding members of Microsoft have aimed to maintain that temporarising, ad hoc atmosphere that you get within a struggling start-up. Teams are kept small, they are set massively over ambitious goals, that they invariably struggle to meet, fail - and in so doing fulfill the ACTUAL design targets that their managers had had in mind all along. Its a culture of burn-out and alcoholism; late night poker and horse-betting.

Gates has always aimed to keep each section of his empire small and agile. people are moved around frequently. Some say that this is simply to create an illusion of progress (Fred Moody, in his book "I Sing The Body Electronic", notes that in one of the company cafeterias, the following quotation, from Petronius Arbiter http://www.ag.wastholm.net/aphorism/A-1029, was pasted up, as seeming to have special relevance o the people who aet their meals underneath it... wondering what home looked like and whether their kids remembered them.)

In some ways, this works. Big Green has not grown fat and slothful in its old age. Whatever else may be said of this company, it does not grow old gracefully. It may now be a multibillion dollar business; it may well be showing DEFINITE signs of male menopaus... but if so, like many male-menopausals, its response has been to buy itself a Harley Davidson and a bandana.

The downside of all this is that it's a fairly leaky organisation (Cyberdyne Systems Incorporated IT CERTAINLY AIN'T!) As I say, people are moved between hopelessly overloaded taskforces and their response is often retain a network of loyalties with their former workmates. A subculture of leaking information between teams exists, in order to try and help desperately overstretched workers meet at least SOME of thier overambitious targets. Worse still, team managers often aren't computer programmers, themselves, but professional management types. They work their teams to the bone, simply because they know that the only alternative to having something to say for themselves at their next "Bill Meeting", is having NOTHING to say for themselves at their next "Bill Meeting".

Bill himself remains somewhat mercurial, even though he is said to have melowed a bit in recent years. His response to failure is still to yell insults at whatever unforunate messager brought him the news. His handing of the day-to-day running of the company to Steve "Macho-man" Balmer has not helped things, either.

No, there's absolutely no reason that I can see to suppose that this leak didn't come directly from within the campus. The questions really is: WHY? What is it about this, apparently highly selective, set of snippets that is so special? Does it contain some damning legacy from the Xenix days, or intance? Is there soemthing about it that people should particularly pay attention to?

It is interesting to note that this particular leak has taken place immediately prior to "Friday the 13th". Previous verifiable leaks from within the Redmond campus (such as the infamous "Halloween" documents, for instance) have had a decidedly horror-movie-title theme to them.

If there's more to this than meets the eye, it'll be because so little of it meets the eye...
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The source code of a monsterpiece.  michael-t | 02/12/04
And they claim we are safer because the hackers don't have the code.  DonnieBoy | 02/13/04
Now I wonder who did this??  Arthas | 02/12/04
Why would anyone do that?!?  guido_z | 02/12/04
Advice for arthas  nite_w0lf | 02/12/04
Advice for nite_wolf  Arthas | 02/12/04
advise for Barfas  stephen732@... | 02/12/04
it very well could be  Arthas | 02/12/04
Evidence  Martin Marvinski | 02/12/04
you are clearly showing your age  matted@... | 02/13/04
Evidence  Arthas | 02/13/04
it very well could be... Microsoft  ejhonda | 02/13/04
very intrincted logic, pal  fgh1234 | 02/13/04
Arthas, why Open source is good for students  voska | 02/13/04
I never said it wasn't good  Arthas | 02/13/04
Cable?!  Frank.. | 02/13/04
Its Microsoft's doing  OhMyGosh | 02/12/04
Fingerprint each copy?  IT_User | 02/12/04
Exactly  linux_skynyrd | 02/12/04
Controversy?  sman_z | 02/12/04
On the Contrary  linux_skynyrd | 02/12/04
unlikely  guido_z | 02/13/04
interesting....  jediab | 02/13/04
Good question  OhMyGosh | 02/13/04
guess ms shared source is not real  JWatson77 | 02/12/04
Before you get your knickers in a knot  Cardinal_Bill | 02/12/04
enough...  fenderman | 02/12/04
You assume too much about Redmond.  DanIelWalker_z | 02/13/04
HP Made $2,500,000,000 last year from open source  jaydee_z | 02/13/04
Maybe it was the Smithsonian  IT_User | 02/13/04
National Security  issthatso | 02/13/04
Hackers have had the code for a long time. We just did not know.  DonnieBoy | 02/13/04
Are you ready to retract this statement?  rinaldo | 02/13/04
Care to post a link?  BruceWheelock@... | 02/13/04
Here's where I read it  rinaldo | 02/13/04
not a link, but a quote from full-disclosure  SpikeyMike_z | 02/14/04
not happend  guido_z | 02/12/04
40 GB????!!!!  OhMyGosh | 02/12/04
Well...  Martin Marvinski | 02/12/04
Agreed.  doe_z | 02/12/04
Unusual Bloat  michael-t | 02/16/04
Worse than that  Robert Crocker | 02/12/04
40GB of source, not binaries  Oggie_z | 02/12/04
That's still huge  CobraA1 | 02/12/04
Hmmm  michael-t | 02/16/04
no assembly required  setsdfgsdf | 02/17/04
One floppy?  sman_z | 02/12/04
W2K for all platforms, i386, alpha, ppc  hal9000mx | 02/14/04
Windows has AV mechanisms??? Who knew?  ejhonda | 02/12/04
I wonder who did that.... Typical....  guido_z | 02/12/04
They are more worried about their property than our SAFETY???  MrNasty000 | 02/12/04
not difficult  guido_z | 02/12/04
Merits of the source..  sman_z | 02/12/04
and they are right....  ryusen | 02/13/04
It is complete, well...  Richard Flude | 02/12/04
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Good article  CobraA1 | 02/12/04
Third option  Nigel Johnstone | 02/13/04
Fourth option  IT_User | 02/13/04
ha ha ha.. looking for to see this buggy source code  M_c | 02/12/04
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Gee, but wouldn't that be redundant? wink  dicktaurus@... | 02/13/04
At last, the truth...  p.severin@... | 02/13/04
MS Has Right To Protect Source, However . . .  markdoiron | 02/13/04
security misused  guido_z | 02/13/04
Windows is safer because the hackers don't have the code!!!!  DonnieBoy | 02/13/04
Then perhaps...  mikeybrass | 02/13/04
alcatel....  guido_z | 02/13/04
Re: Alcatel  mikeybrass | 02/13/04
What's wrong with the command line?  voska | 02/13/04
Installing  mikeybrass | 02/13/04
network basics  guido_z | 02/13/04
Re: Alcatel  mikeybrass | 02/13/04
alcatel / security / user friendly  guido_z | 02/13/04
another reply  guido_z | 02/13/04
PS  mikeybrass | 02/13/04
That has nothing to do with the current discussion  DonnieBoy | 02/13/04
Contra  mikeybrass | 02/13/04
The migration will start in the enterprise. For the home: Lindows.  DonnieBoy | 02/13/04
Talk about Bloatware  Rick_K | 02/13/04
Avoid, avoid, avoid...  Zogg | 02/13/04
Best advice on this board  IT_User | 02/13/04
MS might as well go OpenSource now  interlocutor | 02/13/04
scrutiny  guido_z | 02/13/04
MS real fear... security or stolen IP revealed?  MacCanuck | 02/13/04
how your subconscious reads this news  aknxy | 02/13/04
Good for the goose...  Rangerbob@... | 02/13/04
Its only pety larceny anyway! (nt)  nite_w0lf | 02/13/04
Happens all the time  voska | 02/13/04
What a coincidence  Chad_z | 02/13/04
Allchin said devastating to national security...  rinaldo | 02/13/04
Who On Earth Would Want To Look At That Sloppy Code?  brenthawkinsmd | 02/13/04
Just Another Microsoft Ploy Against OpenSource  claytonmuhler | 02/13/04
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Then why was the code in a "zip" archive?  David Mohring | 02/13/04
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tar  Teknophobic | 02/13/04
alcatel / security / user friendly  guido_z | 02/13/04
Sorry, skip this one wrong post.  guido_z | 02/13/04
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new security initiative wink  rgriffith64@... | 02/13/04
What goes around comes around  Karma_1 | 02/13/04
Re: Arthas - Wonder Who etc. etc.  Nicholas Donovan | 02/13/04

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