It cost lots of money to use Open source
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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That is one of the
BitTwiddler | 02/12/04
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i disagree
ryusen | 02/12/04
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Relevance?
IT_User | 02/12/04
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Stop Feeding Trolls!! (NT)
Mack DaNife | 02/12/04
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Yeah, okay
IT_User | 02/12/04
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What does it matter?
Mack DaNife | 02/12/04
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Yeah.
Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 02/12/04
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Re: Suppose it's souther_pride?
Martin Marvinski | 02/13/04
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Yes, but if you are deploying 1,000 web servers??
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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um...
ryusen | 02/12/04
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'FREE' is not about price, it's about freedom
dvf | 02/12/04
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Read the article again
Mark Miller | 02/14/04
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Quality wise
michael-t | 02/12/04
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It's easy to compete...
BitTwiddler | 02/12/04
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Not sure it's that easy, but...
IT_User | 02/12/04
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So all the support is free, hardware is free???
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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There you go again
IT_User | 02/12/04
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Not free for proprietary software either. Much less to support Linux/Apache
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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With all the money, no linux desktop? Very good return there....
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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Oh, yeah. null (perfect name!) = Goober, our troll from last week.
dicktaurus@... | 02/12/04
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Look at Suns Java Desktop System.
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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Suns java = Suse 8.2 renamed
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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The kernel is SUSE, but the desktop is Gnome.
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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Why?
Update victim | 02/12/04
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It takes time
I_like_linux | 02/12/04
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And no idea how far Linux has gone in recent years
CobraA1 | 02/12/04
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no linux desktop?
richdave | 02/13/04
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Will the company be funded by the Government?
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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Talk to the programmers at IBM, Red Hat, Novel, JBoss, MySQL . . .
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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Re: talk
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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Outsourcing
OhMyGosh | 02/12/04
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Outsourcing to India is capitalism in action.
rafe01 | 02/12/04
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You can not fight the market anymore than MS can fight Linux.
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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working for free?
ryusen | 02/12/04
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or will we force OEMs to sell it for a GPL tax - LOL
JWatson77 | 02/13/04
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My id has been replaced by null
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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perfect match
Rembrandt Pussyhorse | 02/12/04
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null = no value, like sheet for brains.
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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Well, your comments go to /dev/null, so what are you complaining aout?
DanIelWalker_z | 02/13/04
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By Crushing Everything in Your Path
Bill Gates is Satan | 02/12/04
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Bill Gates is not Satan. I can prove it.
Delaware Boy | 02/12/04
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Bill or Steve
Bill4 | 02/12/04
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Relevance?
zd-spam | 02/12/04
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details...
ryusen | 02/12/04
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Really, Microsoft created open source.
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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Curious about something
IT_User | 02/12/04
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IBM was in court just like Microsoft.
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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Thanks
IT_User | 02/12/04
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if anything,
ryusen | 02/12/04
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Easy might not be the word
issthatso | 02/12/04
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Its not the price, it's the value
StorageGuru | 02/12/04
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the crux of your arument
ryusen | 02/12/04
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Well on the desktop, Windows is still better
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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It's experience that counts
StorageGuru | 02/12/04
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Linux's offering is an alternative "not to switch"
IT_User | 02/12/04
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Exactly
pschroeder@... | 02/12/04
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Additionally...
pschroeder@... | 02/12/04
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Maybe it's just me then
Michael Kelly | 02/12/04
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Which distro...
pschroeder@... | 02/12/04
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SuSE 9.0
Michael Kelly | 02/12/04
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Let's See Here
nikoli | 02/12/04
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Costs
Letophoro | 02/12/04
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Disagree Slightly
RedHat9User | 02/12/04
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I think you have included some myths here.
nite_w0lf | 02/12/04
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myth #1
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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It IS for me.
doe_z | 02/12/04
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Yeah, right.
zd-spam | 02/12/04
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Issue: Support
rock06r | 02/13/04
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No myths at all
StorageGuru | 02/12/04
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The thread was for linux desktops!
nite_w0lf | 02/12/04
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you can use windows and open source
JWatson77 | 02/12/04
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Perhaps a reason to switch......
Iain_Peters | 02/12/04
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Better?
Update victim | 02/12/04
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MS problem: Desktop Linux is good enough.
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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95% of the people say no it isn't.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/12/04
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The monopoly will not be broken over nite.
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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Not quite good enough
Bill Weisgerber | 02/12/04
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Corporations do not buy their computers at Office Max
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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Large corporations
IT_User | 02/12/04
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What proprietary software?
Mack DaNife | 02/12/04
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Apples and oranges
rock06r | 02/13/04
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Excellent Quote
Chad_z | 02/12/04
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Re: Excellent Quote
issthatso | 02/12/04
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just goes to prove
JWatson77 | 02/13/04
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It's about time s/w got commoditized.
dicktaurus@... | 02/12/04
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Amazing it took so long
IT_User | 02/12/04
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Taxes
pschroeder@... | 02/12/04
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Is that really a good thing?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/12/04
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Actually
j.m.galvin | 02/12/04
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That sums it up nicely.
IT_User | 02/12/04
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Was commoditizing the hardware architecture a good thing?
IT_User | 02/12/04
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Will the price on the companys service come down? NO
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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Ever listen to Greenspan?
Mack DaNife | 02/12/04
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Idle words
CobraA1 | 02/12/04
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Open Source NEEDS to be crushed...
Mike Cox | 02/12/04
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Sorry, Mike
Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/12/04
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You missed the brilliant subtlety
j.m.galvin | 02/12/04
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No, I didn't
Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/12/04
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So how do you explain Google and Amazon?
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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Make the Open source users take drug tests
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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ZDNet needs to limit the number of threads started by a person
Michael Kelly | 02/12/04
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MS are doing research on this...
rafe01 | 02/12/04
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Trolls
Mack DaNife | 02/12/04
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ZDNET needs to require a minimum age and IQ
marksashton | 02/13/04
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Windoze is so great is completely hosed my system !
realitycheck101 | 02/12/04
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and there you have it folks!
nite_w0lf | 02/12/04
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Correction!
ShadeTree | 02/12/04
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Reinstall
Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/12/04
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it sounds like...
pschroeder@... | 02/12/04
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He's not the only one
IT_User | 02/12/04
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MS is competing with Open Source and doing quite well
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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where
guido_z | 02/12/04
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Re: where
Mark Miller | 02/14/04
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Then why do you have to argue for Microsoft
I_like_linux | 02/12/04
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Linux struggles on the desktop, but it will take over next year, whatever!
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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which version
guido_z | 02/12/04
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Decent Web Browser?
nikoli | 02/12/04
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Next year is the year of the 'Linux desktop' I forgot
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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Actually, it was LAST year
Michael Kelly | 02/12/04
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last year
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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You sound like the Iraqi information minister.
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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You must be on the wrong side
tech3204@... | 02/12/04
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WHATEVER....
The Real Bitch | 02/12/04
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You won't find me supporting the terror groups at MS.
DonnieBoy | 02/12/04
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What A Suprise
nikoli | 02/12/04
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Huh??? You said you wanted a copy of Windows Lite.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/12/04
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ms sails towards her own destiny
guido_z | 02/12/04
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Purity?
Update victim | 02/12/04
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Maybe Not Any More Safe
nikoli | 02/12/04
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Wow..
Patrick Jones | 02/12/04
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I Fail To See
nikoli | 02/12/04
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copy functionality, yes
CobraA1 | 02/16/04
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fsf
guido_z | 02/12/04
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Easy...Premium Content
jfrankcarr | 02/12/04
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Cable model
pschroeder@... | 02/12/04
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The truth about Linux...
+-Chris-+ | 02/12/04
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Liar Liar
nikoli | 02/12/04
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nikoli, post something constructive.
+-Chris-+ | 02/13/04
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Yes, and hopefully...
Mark Miller | 02/14/04
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Mostly agree with you
jfrankcarr | 02/12/04
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Partly agree with you
IT_User | 02/12/04
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Great Post...
wploger | 02/13/04
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re : How can you compete with open source?
JWatson77 | 02/12/04
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I would like to vote for "null"...
Damon K | 02/12/04
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seconded (nt)
ryusen | 02/12/04
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I know, I know!!! Let me take a stab at it.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/12/04
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By the way, this will work for others too.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/12/04
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Interesting thoughts...
Patrick Jones | 02/12/04
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I agree completely.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/12/04
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Not sure they didn't
IT_User | 02/12/04
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Similar things have happened, though unsuccessfully
Mark Miller | 02/14/04
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Sometimes I wonder
rapson | 02/12/04
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But giving in is not winning.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/12/04
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Which is more important, ego or profit?
IT_User | 02/12/04
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Staright from your lips to Bill G. ear!!!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/13/04
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Oops, one more thought...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/12/04
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my theory
ryusen | 02/12/04
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Interesting theory
rapson | 02/12/04
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who knows..
ryusen | 02/13/04
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.Net on Linux
wploger | 02/13/04
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so selling the same old thing over and over is you answer?
JWatson77 | 02/12/04
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Hey, I didn't invent the system.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/12/04
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no surprises
guido_z | 02/12/04
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Inhibitive strategies
IT_User | 02/12/04
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Forgot this...
IT_User | 02/12/04
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'hmmm
guido_z | 02/12/04
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depends on the patents...
ryusen | 02/12/04
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xml scripting?
guido_z | 02/12/04
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Yes indeed.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/13/04
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Seems I wasn't far off!!!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/13/04
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If you're proprietary and closed, you can't
FilledOut | 02/12/04
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Of course you can, see my post above.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/12/04
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Not if your "partners" don't go along
j.m.galvin | 02/12/04
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Naw, people still line up to be "partners".
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/12/04
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I'd argue that
j.m.galvin | 02/12/04
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But, it's not about OEMs
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/13/04
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already....
guido_z | 02/12/04
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now I'm trolling
guido_z | 02/12/04
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Doh...the open source debacle
jimk_z | 02/12/04
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Silly myths created by the press
brad.mayes | 02/13/04
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Consulting's growth is not tied to OSS
j.m.galvin | 02/13/04
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