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--- His position at IBM got outsourced---

I am more inclined to believe MS threatened to outsource his (shilling) job if he didn't start becoming more of an agitator.

If this case ends with SCO losing everything too soon MS is liable to lose more business than they can bear. As things stand now there are many conservative companies afraid to try Linux. Their L6 from MS is getting close to it's end. If they are still afraid they will go ahead and sign with MS again. If the way is cleared with a reasonable guarantee of no more SCOs in the future many of them will seriously consider Linux and some will move. When too many companies report their successes with Linux MS will be doomed to competing on their merits instead of using the usual bully tactics they are so famous for. In other words, MS will have to be an order of magntude better for CIOs to be able to justify the enormous expense. If that does not happen then MS will be forced to lower prices to compete which will result in shareholders losing too much money. Shareholders will start their exodus from MS because when shareholders start to lose, shareholders take their money and go somewhere else.

MS future, to a great extent, is dependent on the outcome of this litigation. Right now it does not look good. Their next best hope is to be able to goad OSS supporters into taking dumb actions that may reflect badly on the entire community. Just plain, old fashioned, American political mud-slinging. If you don't have a product to sling, sling mud. It's worked for politicians for many years. MS hopes to give it a whirl.

It won't work, of course for a couple reasons. 1) not enough OSS supporters will be dumb enough to fall for this. Probably in excess of 99.999% of OSS supporters ignore both SCO and MS and, 2) MS has not yet figured out how to compete with OSS. The corporate mindset is still too entrenched in stealing, copying, or buying. None of which will work. MS is in a game they cannot possibly win for one simple reason. MS software is not now nor will it be, in the foreseeable future, good enough for anyone to be able to justify the unconscionable expense and restrictions. In a company with more than a few hundred desktops, a full-time employee is required just to maintain licenses. I wonder if MS included that in their (fraudulent) TCO claims?
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one question  ryusen | 02/06/04
half an answer  Still Lynn | 02/07/04
SCO will win in the end  Christian_<>< | 02/06/04
what?????  ickusslime@... | 02/06/04
His position at IBM got outsourced (NT)  MarcB_z | 02/06/04
How do you get outsourced FROM IBM  IT_User | 02/06/04
Wrong company  NoB$ | 02/08/04
You could be right....  tiger9999 | 02/09/04
My bet  Jose Jimenez | 02/06/04
Who hacked?  samp_z | 02/07/04
who hacked  guido_z | 02/08/04
Souther_Pride Is Just Another...  The Real Bitch | 02/08/04
have you ever considered doing this for a living? (nt)  ryusen | 02/06/04
you mean he doesn't?  blahblahblah | 02/07/04
Mr. Scarecrow, I presume  NoB$ | 02/06/04
??  bilbobaggins_z | 02/06/04
SCO will win in the end  michael-t | 02/06/04
horrible treatment...  guido_z | 02/06/04
SCO will win in "the end""  Jay Cash | 02/07/04
This is an SCO shill  wolf_z | 02/07/04
Martin!!!  Martin Marvinski | 02/08/04
That is a disgraceful allegation  tiger9999 | 02/09/04
Grow up  drichards1953 | 02/09/04
an expert in our midst!  Iko_z | 02/09/04
And the dwinner gets:  Update victim | 02/09/04
I think not  balsover | 02/09/04
This statement is based on what fact?  JimSatterfieldW | 02/10/04
They told them to be mean to us!!!  r0ckflite | 02/06/04
It gets more interesting.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
Interesting in a "dumb and dumber" way  Xunil_Sierutuf | 02/06/04
Well, actually, it is a bit interesting  IT_User | 02/06/04
Certainly, in that respect. IBM will have Darl on a spit by the time...  dicktaurus@... | 02/07/04
Please explain  MarcB_z | 02/06/04
I have no idea yet who is right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
What about Microsoft???  Bobby Sskcat | 02/06/04
Don't know, don't care.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
None of which made any difference.  xode@... | 02/09/04
Microsoft is above the law  MacGeek2121 | 02/12/04
risk management  guido_z | 02/06/04
Message has been deleted.  dicktaurus@... | 02/07/04
You may have a point  John L. Ries | 02/09/04
there's no assumptions being made here...  ryusen | 02/06/04
But one thing still puzzles me  IT_User | 02/06/04
he isn't?  ryusen | 02/06/04
Don't know  IT_User | 02/06/04
Darl's Candy  guido_z | 02/06/04
I suspect a certain RICO-bait company in Redmond has him well-padded.  dicktaurus@... | 02/07/04
Something to consider...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
Not true if considering copyright infringement  dscherf | 02/06/04
Maybe,,,  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
I can tell you why...  Damon K | 02/06/04
Not so...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/07/04
What is actually being said in the courts  B.O.F.H. | 02/07/04
re, nag: not just the distros  ryusen | 02/09/04
Not at all Don  dscherf | 02/08/04
Trust the fraudulent courts in this country...  xode@... | 02/09/04
Would you risk summary judgement?  IT_User | 02/06/04
That's certainly one point of view.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
And it would be interesting to hear them  IT_User | 02/06/04
Something to consider...  NoB$ | 02/06/04
NWOR  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
civilisation  guido_z | 02/06/04
Don't fret. NAG demonstrates daily he's as uncivilized as M$ employees...  dicktaurus@... | 02/07/04
You hit the nail on the head there bucko...  quietLee | 02/09/04
I am so sad about this  NoB$ | 02/07/04
(NT) NoB$, good points. . . SCO is as 'scummy' as MS has proven out to be.  Plain Logic | 02/06/04
i've considered that...  ryusen | 02/06/04
True, SCO is using two *courts*  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
hey didnt' hear a horn tooting  ryusen | 02/06/04
Hoist with your own petard  Fred Fredrickson | 02/07/04
politics and money  guido_z | 02/07/04
American Justice System  NoB$ | 02/07/04
Playing poker with a tarot deck  Still Lynn | 02/08/04
Something more to consider Don  bgoss@... | 02/09/04
Shows no proof???  Fred Flintsone | 02/06/04
nope  guido_z | 02/07/04
Stone age legal tactics  Still Lynn | 02/08/04
The Law  JimSatterfieldW | 02/10/04
Not really, no.  Zogg | 02/06/04
Well, that's certainly an "outsiders" opinion.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
We don't live in a vacuum!  Zogg | 02/06/04
Sorry, I see many sides.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
"see" vs. "speak" (nt)  ryusen | 02/06/04
That's why there's this thing called "evidence".  Zogg | 02/06/04
What point of view?  NoB$ | 02/08/04
Well, that's certainly an "outsiders" opinion.  NoB$ | 02/06/04
Message has been deleted.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/07/04
Like herding cats, only tougher.  NoB$ | 02/07/04
Better, keep trying.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/08/04
This is it?  NoB$ | 02/08/04
As a paid $hill & employee of M$, YOU'REno outsider to SCO, that's true!  dicktaurus@... | 02/07/04
Defining boundaries  Still Lynn | 02/08/04
Betting the company  tic swayback | 02/06/04
Just an expression tic...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
Taking care with language  tic swayback | 02/06/04
Thank you oh so much!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
leading language  ryusen | 02/06/04
Hmmm, most seem to understand.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
re:  ryusen | 02/06/04
Let me help ZZ  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/07/04
why thank you  ryusen | 02/09/04
you made it past the 4th grade?  blahblahblah | 02/07/04
As Captain Manwaring would Say to Frank Pike, viz:  BanjoPaterson | 02/07/04
Just trying to keep you honest  tic swayback | 02/08/04
Don't blame Bit, blame BillG  Robert Crocker | 02/06/04
are you sure you want to go down that road?  blahblahblah | 02/07/04
Bob's right. You're not. Get over it.  dicktaurus@... | 02/07/04
dear "taurus"  blahblahblah | 02/07/04
X amount of $ compared to what?  Still Lynn | 02/08/04
Your take on the jury mindset is what's interesting  Jose Jimenez | 02/06/04
But trying to get to the jury  IT_User | 02/06/04
Yes, I know, and that is what surprises me.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
IBM's legal tactics surprise you?  Still Lynn | 02/08/04
Whole new lawsuit  Mark Gist | 02/06/04
I don't believe that is true.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
From the article  NemesisNL | 02/06/04
Maybe you should read the court transcripts!  B.O.F.H. | 02/07/04
Belief preferred over documentation?  Still Lynn | 02/08/04
Is this the best you can do, NAG?  NoB$ | 02/06/04
What to do with your posts.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
utter immaturity  blahblahblah | 02/07/04
Learn how to...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/07/04
that's not the reality  blahblahblah | 02/07/04
Tell you what...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/08/04
And it isn't foolish to assume SCO has something to backup their claims?  Richard Flude | 02/06/04
And there is the problem...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
Firstly I don't know who's right, but...  Richard Flude | 02/06/04
Overly defensive?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/07/04
wow...  guido_z | 02/07/04
forget defensive, working on my offense!  Richard Flude | 02/07/04
No, that is *SCO's problem*.  Zogg | 02/06/04
wrong again  NemesisNL | 02/06/04
uh huh right -- evidence  blahblahblah | 02/07/04
Until SCO Present Evidence, No_Axon_to_Find, SCO has NO CASE  BanjoPaterson | 02/07/04
The problem is you are FUD-pucking for M$_AND_SCO both. Why?  dicktaurus@... | 02/07/04
You have to decide wich way you want it...  NemesisNL | 02/06/04
Oh, it does indeed get more interesting  FamilyManFirst | 02/06/04
Re: Re: It gets more interesting  Solid Water | 02/06/04
I think you have a typo  Robert Crocker | 02/06/04
ANTI-FUD www.groklaw.new  BanjoPaterson | 02/07/04
Er, Bitty's M$ masters don't let him go to GROK. He might get real...  dicktaurus@... | 02/07/04
scary  guido_z | 02/07/04
The Code that is claimed by SCO  wrench_ninja | 02/07/04
Assumption?  Martin Marvinski | 02/08/04
In this case, IBM needs to prevail...  xode@... | 02/09/04
What jury!  MG_z | 02/09/04
re: What jury!  bgoss@... | 02/09/04
This gets settled out of court I bet.  Heatlesssun | 02/06/04
No settlement (IMO)  dscherf | 02/06/04
That is SCO's plan  MarcB_z | 02/06/04
Original plan was a buyout  IT_User | 02/06/04
Your suggestion SCO has anything is not just wrong, but dumb. Why?  dicktaurus@... | 02/07/04
Why not go for a cool trillion?  avilensk1966@... | 02/06/04
They have one simple request  jfrankcarr | 02/06/04
SCO claims  hmgbird | 02/09/04
finally, some clarifications!  dg mh | 02/06/04
After 9 months they are starting to make sense, but .....  Still Lynn | 02/06/04
Clarifications?  NemesisNL | 02/06/04
derivative work makes sense!  dg mh | 02/07/04
Now you're babbling. Makes less sense in c-right that in Biz secret context  dicktaurus@... | 02/07/04
LOL, makes no more sense - actually less - than the other crap, Micro$hill!  dicktaurus@... | 02/07/04
Wow, all that money and no code shown  Xunil_Sierutuf | 02/06/04
WTF????  RedHat9User | 02/06/04
lol -- huh?  blahblahblah | 02/07/04
you got it!! right on!! wink  princessangry | 02/09/04
Thanks to Microsoft's Backing for SCO's False Accusations  brenthawkinsmd | 02/06/04
well...  doh123 | 02/06/04
You must mean companies like Sun, HP, SGI, etc...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/04
not sure what you mean  JWatson77 | 02/07/04
no need to second guess what he "said"  blahblahblah | 02/07/04
Of course there is UNIX code in Windows.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/07/04
I guess that explains  michael-t | 02/07/04
Good point Bitster!  Still Lynn | 02/08/04
What about the lawyers?  IT_User | 02/08/04
The lawyers get to keep the money they were paid  Still Lynn | 02/09/04
Microsoft does have Unix code in WIndows  B.O.F.H. | 02/07/04
Not so sure about that....  tiger9999 | 02/09/04
Unix code is Unix code no matter...  Still Lynn | 02/09/04
SCO VP has hinted at this  Still Lynn | 02/08/04
No code?  gordon@... | 02/06/04
no code- nope  bilbobaggins_z | 02/06/04
Must be the crack speaking  fullebr@... | 02/06/04
Hollywod glamor  michael-t | 02/06/04
Yes, but (the old) SCO released all that code under the GPL  George Jay | 02/06/04
Somebody put SCO away please!!  nograin | 02/06/04
Inside SCO's Lawyer's Office ...  dr praetorius | 02/06/04
I hope their lawyers asking for payments up front  JWatson77 | 02/07/04
In fact they are  IT_User | 02/07/04
Already did, Peg!  Still Lynn | 02/08/04
Mewawaw  MG_z | 02/09/04
IBM's "Linux License" from SCO???  heron | 02/06/04
This is interesting...  doe_z | 02/06/04
SCO purchased from Novell??  csk_1975 | 02/06/04
Interesting reading  copygod74 | 02/06/04
Usually  Letophoro | 02/06/04
No, not usually  Chad_z | 02/06/04
bitterness  guido_z | 02/07/04
sco ought to have some proof before accusing IBM of getting Novell .....  hipparchus | 02/06/04
Since when?  MG_z | 02/09/04
McBride reminds me of Bush  Chad_z | 02/06/04
Oh Chad! You're so witty...  billywill | 02/06/04
So where is this leaving/leading Red Hat?  bascule | 02/07/04
re : SCO claim reaches $5 billion  JWatson77 | 02/07/04
It's OK.  Yen_z | 02/07/04
Don't Tweak the Nose of the Gorilla  BarbieLee | 02/09/04
This comment is pretty scary ...  George Jay | 02/09/04
test  cjules13 | 08/10/04
Who's Really Behind This?  netevangelist | 02/09/04
Interesting Development  MarcB_z | 02/09/04
They're fighting a losing battle  CobraA1 | 02/09/04
New [lack of] developments...  Still Lynn | 02/09/04
All Part of the Master Plan  wbs00001 | 02/09/04
US Security in jepordy!  msdead | 02/09/04
IBM is going to eat SCO for lunch  jstead1 | 02/09/04
National Security?  opensource@... | 02/09/04

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