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Theft versus copyright infringement
---But while I am sure of one thing whether it is classified as
theft or a violation of the copyright law, a law is being
violated---

This is correct, but language is important, and "theft" is often
used incorrectly to fan emotional flames. It's just as valid to call
it "arson" or "rape" as it is "theft". Those are crimes too, but like
"theft", it's not the crime that's occuring here.

---And as for me being wrong about stealing you still must
agree that if you take something that is not yours it is classified
as theft.---

But nothing is being taken here. If I download a song on a p2p
network, what have I "taken"? The original is still there. I've
made a digital copy of it, illegally, but I have "taken" nothing.
Theft requires that the owner be deprived of physical property.

---If I am not mistaken the RIAA has successfully stop some
individual from illegally downloading copyrighted material. So
from that position copying downloaded material can get you in
trouble with the law---

You are, in fact, mistaken. The RIAA has not gone after anyone
for downloading music, only those uploading music.
Downloaders are much harder to trace. In the case of those who
have been threatened with lawsuits, how is uploading music
"stealing"? What is being "stolen" when someone uploads a
song?
Also remember that the RIAA has not taken any of these cases to
court, nor has anyone been prosecuted under criminal laws (the
NET laws) for uploading or downloading music. The RIAA has
settled all cases, so it is unknown how these statutes would fare
in a court of law.
Posted by: tic swayback   Posted on: 02/03/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Extraordinary, really  Fred Fredrickson | 02/02/04
Well...  DarbyOhara | 02/03/04
You Asked  TMS_z | 02/03/04
yup, about the do-gooders  geekrific | 02/03/04
I kind of agree  ParadigmOdyssey | 02/02/04
Get rid of P2P it is stealing------  usapride | 02/02/04
Give It Up Bit  Bobby Sskcat | 02/02/04
Re: Give it up bit  usapride | 02/02/04
Whatever Bit  Bobby Sskcat | 02/03/04
blah blah blah piracy rocks!!!!! Little bittie byte!  geekrific | 02/03/04
Calm down P2P is not stealing it can be used for stealing  tahtahwichita | 02/02/04
Why you are completely wrong  prong@... | 02/03/04
don't forget ..  g_ludlow | 02/03/04
I not for stealing, BUT suppose I do use it legally  el1jones | 02/03/04
All Networks are P2P.  Update victim | 02/03/04
blah blah blah piracy rocks!!!!!  cybershoplifter | 02/03/04
Ms. Jackson, if you're nasty...  AbsolutelyNot | 02/03/04
Get rid of the Recording industry  JAS2803 | 02/03/04
It is piracy!  Tomas Saduikis | 02/03/04
If that is piracy then so is  prong@... | 02/03/04
Poor response here  voska | 02/03/04
What about cd burners?  tic swayback | 02/03/04
Not so  prong@... | 02/03/04
Is so  voska | 02/03/04
Watch it, buddy.  gordon@... | 02/03/04
this is a LANDMARK case  JWatson77 | 02/03/04
remember when the VHS first came out  JWatson77 | 02/03/04
same with cassette tapes  Hanover Phist | 02/03/04
And let you know when it was time to flip the tape  AbsolutelyNot | 02/03/04
Ban VHS it's used for criminal activities!  cybershoplifter | 02/03/04
Let's get rid of computers all together...  el1jones | 02/03/04
Let's not forget ...  jwhanon | 02/03/04
Uneducated Attorneys  voska | 02/03/04
Outlawing P2P is not the answer  Mack DaNife | 02/03/04
Agree / Disagree  tic swayback | 02/03/04
blah blah blah piracy rocks!!!!!!!  M_c | 02/03/04
blah blah blah piracy rocks!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!  cybershoplifter | 02/03/04
"blah blah blah piracy rocks!!!". I second that!  cybershoplifter | 02/03/04
blah blah blah piracy rocks!!!!!!! AGAIN!!!!!!!  cybershoplifter | 02/03/04
Inmates running the asylum  Al_z | 02/03/04
Stealing?  tic swayback | 02/03/04
Stealing?  Al_z | 02/03/04
Perhaps you should explain it to the Supreme Court then  tic swayback | 02/03/04
Perhaps you should explain it to the Supreme Court then  Al_z | 02/03/04
Some insight here  voska | 02/03/04
Some insight here  Al_z | 02/03/04
Open the Criminal Code sometime  voska | 02/03/04
Theft versus copyright infringement  tic swayback | 02/03/04
blah blah blah piracy rocks!!!!!  cybershoplifter | 02/03/04
blah blah blah piracy rocks!!!!!  geekrific | 02/03/04
blah blah blah piracy rocks!!! The cd is dead  geekrific | 02/03/04
Not quite dead  tic swayback | 02/03/04
very sick?  geekrific | 02/03/04
Depends  tic swayback | 02/03/04
I've got two Audio DVDs  voska | 02/03/04
That's why piracy rocks!!! The cd is dead!  cybershoplifter | 02/03/04
cd is dead, not artists  bugmode | 09/30/04
People steal, not programs, networks or computers  crseasblik@... | 02/03/04
Ban it if used for criminal activities!  cybershoplifter | 02/03/04
Ban it if used for criminal activities!  cybershoplifter | 02/03/04
copyright inducement  newgreatyear | 07/23/04

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