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I have reviewed large portions of a 1,000,000 SLOC project that exclusively uses ESQL, but mostly limited to a data objects layer. It works, but is not the most efficient design for various reasons. Stored procedures were strictly forbidden on the project (not my decision, I came in to the project very late), exactly why I am not sure.
I'm not arguing with your point, just saying that it happens, (together with copying and pasting 5,000 lines of code:) probably a lot more than one might think.

On a separate topic, Ruby is more of a full-featured interpreted OO programming language than a scripting language, althought the distinction can be a rather fine one. I personally find much of Ruby to be very elegant, although my experiences with interpreted languages embedded into a larger environment (like a Web framework) has been less than happy, especially with the lack of a debugger. I also find that much more programmer discipline is needed when developing in languages without strong compile-time type checking (compile-time type checking helps to avoid some nasty run-time issues, such as when an object "does not understand" a method that is sent to it). These days, that seems to be asking for trouble, since programmer discipline sadly seems to be in short supply.
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I brought this up  Roger Ramjet | 10/31/05
PAPPL?  jpratch | 10/31/05
Its just another trick  Roger Ramjet | 10/31/05
I don't mind, with some reservations  Mark Miller | 10/31/05
Debugging tools for PHP  eheimer | 11/01/05
So what's wrong with Fortran?  Gravitas@... | 10/31/05
Like what?  Not average Joe | 10/31/05
Like handcuffing your code to specific hardware  Robert Kohlenberger | 11/01/05
Right on the Money RK  tbbrickster_z | 11/02/05
Productivity writing assembler?  cgraham_z | 11/03/05
Agree that Database Procedures are Evil  daver_z | 10/31/05
Maybe for small applications  Yensi717 | 10/31/05
OOD  Gravitas@... | 10/31/05
I think  Yensi717 | 10/31/05
Spot on right  Justin James | 10/31/05
Yeah, well...  emofine | 10/31/05
Varying opinions  tero_t_vaananen@... | 11/01/05
Right on.  zztong | 11/01/05
Multiple database vendors  Yensi717 | 11/01/05
Not a pain to edit  Chad_z | 11/01/05
Great framework  bkatz | 10/31/05
Looked like a pain to me...  Justin James | 10/31/05
For Unix deployments you might consider...  Mark Miller | 10/31/05
Message has been deleted.  khakman | 10/31/05
I've heard of Ruby  CobraA1 | 10/31/05
You mean like Smalltalk?  wkharold | 10/31/05
Funny  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 10/31/05
true  jimk_z | 10/31/05
true  jimk_z | 10/31/05
Ruby is OO  tero_t_vaananen@... | 11/01/05
Just what are people spouting about?  jacec | 10/31/05
Are there other benefits?  DougOfCBS ZDNet Moderator | 11/01/05
This is not serious development  SQLDBAJames | 05/29/06
Not everything is a nail  rarsa | 11/03/05

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