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"We must use different definitions of the word "encumber..."

You must not have been keeping up with No_Ax's crusade to promote the term 'encumbered source' to replace 'open source' recently. It has nothing to do with how difficult it is to get the source code. What No_Ax is referring to is the GPL license - by definition, an encumbrance on the software it covers. Regardless of whether or not the software covered by the GPL is "open" (source code is available) or "free" (as in beer), it is not "free" in the "free speech" sense, as it it restricted by the terms of the GPL. In that regard, the GPL is really no different than any other EULA, except in its terms. I happen to disagree with No_Ax about replacing "open" with "encumbered", as software can be both. But it can't be both free (as in speech) and encumbered. On that point I agree with No_Ax.

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What happens to the freedom to change ?  JJ_z | 09/27/05
Hehe  NonZealot | 09/27/05
And in this case he would be correct  balsover | 09/27/05
And you would be right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/27/05
It isn't encumbered.It is downright belligerent.  osreinstall | 09/27/05
Who will this hurt?  NonZealot | 09/27/05
Re: Who will this hurt?  none none | 09/27/05
How will they suffer?  balsover | 09/27/05
Re: How will they suffer?  none none | 09/27/05
DMCA? Ever hear of that? (n/t)  mujadaddy | 09/28/05
A more considered reply  none none | 09/27/05
That is easy to solve  osreinstall | 09/27/05
This all doesn't make sense....  techboy_z | 09/28/05
If a player on Linux doesn't circumvent DRM...  Anton Philidor | 09/28/05
What would happen if there is no DRM in OSS  JJ_z | 09/27/05
Re: What would happen if there is no DRM in OSS  none none | 09/27/05
Of course Linux could have "done something different"  Anton Philidor | 09/28/05
What nonsense is this?  Zinoron | 09/28/05
Are you disagreeing?  Anton Philidor | 09/28/05
Open vs Free  zztong | 09/30/05
We don't need the media companies.  Jastiv | 09/30/05
media companies  xwerfx | 01/26/06
What software would be included?  A.Sinic | 09/27/05
Confused  Yensi717 | 09/27/05
DRM is a tool  MickeyMouse | 09/28/05
What an opportunity for the old "I Told You So".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/27/05
hmm...  cobalt54 | 09/27/05
You seem to  rapson | 09/28/05
Sounds like a good loophole to remove.  DonnieBoy | 09/27/05
How many web apps are GPLed anyway?  Michael Kelly | 09/27/05
MySQL will use the new license for sure.  DonnieBoy | 09/27/05
How so?  balsover | 09/27/05
Is that true?  rapson | 09/28/05
I don't think it is true  Michael Kelly | 09/28/05
Yes, web apps will be rare in the future...  Anton Philidor | 09/28/05
How many versions?  osreinstall | 09/27/05
How is freedom contrary to what anybody thinks??  DonnieBoy | 09/27/05
Open source is good at lying to the customer too.  osreinstall | 09/27/05
Spoken like a true criminal... wink  Root User | 09/27/05
Spoken like a clueless goofball.  osreinstall | 09/27/05
Re: Spoken like a clueless goofball  Root User | 09/27/05
There you go again thinking I am stealing your code.  osreinstall | 09/27/05
Re: how many versions?  cobalt54 | 09/27/05
Yes but they can't get it right.  osreinstall | 09/27/05
Re: Yes but they can't get it right.  none none | 09/27/05
Quit pilfering it.  osreinstall | 09/27/05
Re: Quit pilfering it.  none none | 09/27/05
The acronym DRM was your first clue.  osreinstall | 09/27/05
What are you talking about?!?  cobalt54 | 09/27/05
Can't you talk without over punctuation?  osreinstall | 09/28/05
LAMP  cobalt54 | 09/28/05
FreeBSD is not GPL  Michael Kelly | 09/28/05
Not all open source code is GPL  osreinstall | 09/28/05
Oh yeah...  cobalt54 | 09/28/05
I read the licenses before install. You should too.  osreinstall | 09/28/05
It isn't about profiting  voska | 09/28/05
I do not mind paying for software, if it solves a problem.  osreinstall | 09/28/05
All depends on what you're selling  voska | 09/28/05
It does matter if you are the author.  osreinstall | 09/28/05
You get your pay cheque  voska | 09/28/05
Try self employed.  osreinstall | 09/28/05
No clue, eh?  voska | 09/28/05
You keep talking about from a customer perspective.  osreinstall | 09/28/05
No No No!!!  Michael Kelly | 09/28/05
The L stands for License  voska | 09/28/05
You still didn't answer the question like others.  osreinstall | 09/28/05
I think you got the point  voska | 09/28/05
I always understood it. And I don't use it.  osreinstall | 09/28/05
look at No_ax and OS go on their normal BS  Monkey_MCSE | 09/27/05
Re: look at No_ax and OS go on their normal BS  Root User | 09/27/05
You must be critizing the FUDster in the mirror.  osreinstall | 09/27/05
Hey monkeyboy  osreinstall | 09/27/05
Re: Hey monkeyboy  none none | 09/27/05
Hey, Vily is in your camp Bubba  osreinstall | 09/27/05
Linux is GPL 2  __howard__ | 09/27/05
Breaking open systems!  WillemGrooters | 09/28/05
You got it wrong  voska | 09/28/05
Do nne of the people posting here understand Copyright Law?  B.O.F.H. | 09/28/05
GPL haters out in force...  chemist109 | 09/30/05

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