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They'll take their time and do it right. The Windows hairball is a problem
But, they will untangle the hairball, and never again. This will also create an ecosystem around Linux/OpenOffice.
Posted by: DonnieBoy   Posted on: 09/06/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Unwanted disruption(?)  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
No  Tim Patterson | 09/06/05
What you mean is  jorwell | 09/06/05
Try again  Tim Patterson | 09/06/05
Maybe they still are  jorwell | 09/06/05
If you were unavailable they would switch back.  osreinstall | 09/06/05
Support for Joe Average  SC-man | 09/06/05
No System Crash-man  osreinstall | 09/06/05
Linux did have its chance.  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
I don't fully agree...  thetargos | 09/06/05
How many people care...  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
No, you are wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
I don't have a problem  skeptic tank | 09/06/05
postponed frequently?  jtsdata@... | 09/10/05
It takes time to unwind the hairball, but they will do it.  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
A one city ecosystem?  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
May well be true  jorwell | 09/06/05
Novell bought SuSE.  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
yes, and...  doh123 | 09/06/05
Dead Wrong  yyuko@... | 09/06/05
Good.  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
14,000 computers in one city is not chicken feed  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
Munich is more an example than a bulwark  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
You guys are barking up the wrong tree!  IT_User | 09/06/05
German implementation  georgep_z | 09/06/05
You are misinformed!  ShadeTree | 09/06/05
You are correct on one thing.  libertyaikido | 09/06/05
IBM (and SuSE) advised on the deal...  Anton Philidor | 09/07/05
I am coming round to the idea  jorwell | 09/07/05
Consider, too:  Anton Philidor | 09/07/05
A one car ecosystem?  jtsdata@... | 09/10/05
A one car ecosystem?  jtsdata@... | 09/10/05
The zealots will be busy today!  Jay Cash | 09/06/05
No religion here, just a careful change over.  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
Yes, you did post.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
One so far  Jay Cash | 09/06/05
No, I'm second, you were the first.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
I only USE Microsoft  Jay Cash | 09/06/05
YAY!  Loverock Davidson | 09/06/05
Locked and Loaded!  osreinstall | 09/06/05
Oh My GOD!  Real World | 09/06/05
My Thinking Exactly  Whyaylooh | 09/06/05
Whoops! My Bad.  Whyaylooh | 09/06/05
This is big news any way you slice it. We are all watching.  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
My thoughts exactly  thetargos | 09/06/05
They'll take their time and do it right. The Windows hairball is a problem  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
Why is it a different story  jorwell | 09/06/05
Yes, Windows is the hairball, and getting worse all the time.  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
But Linux is monolithic too  jorwell | 09/06/05
We are only talking the kernel here, the most basic part.  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
Okay I back off here  jorwell | 09/06/05
Actually there is less in the Windows kernel then ...  ShadeTree | 09/06/05
Less in the Windows kernel that the Linux kernel???  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
Donnie.  LinuxHippie | 09/06/05
Good. Can you tell all of us the differences?  michael_t | 09/06/05
RE: Michael_t  ShadeTree | 09/06/05
Another goofball disclosing the same old kernel FUD  osreinstall | 09/06/05
Nope, monilithic only refers to the kernel, not the complete OS.  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
I love it DonnieBoy!  NonZealot | 09/06/05
RE: I love it DonnieBoy!  nightshade0143 | 09/06/05
Linux = monolithic kernel, MS = monolithic OS.  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
The office suite isn't monolithic?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
Quite true  Michael Kelly | 09/06/05
Well, with Microsoft, the office suite is monolithic.  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
Re: Well, with Microsoft, the office suite is monolithic.  Michael Kelly | 09/06/05
Can you let me know  michael_t | 09/06/05
That's funny  nucrash | 09/06/05
The market decided that modular monolithic is best.  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
Again you speak of that which you do not know  John Zern | 09/06/05
No matter what, do not question Donnieboy and expect an honest reply.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
And, what was your point?? If you have an argument, go for it.  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
Man, 2006 and 2006 working on Linux  Boot_Agnostic | 09/06/05
Its only a hairball to the stuanch windows hater  jimk_z | 09/07/05
Loses jobs for Munich  jorwell | 09/06/05
So you're saying..  Tim Patterson | 09/06/05
Not at all  jorwell | 09/06/05
Extortion is OK  specialk_z | 09/06/05
Where did I say that?  jorwell | 09/06/05
When you exercized your free will that disagreed with theirs.  osreinstall | 09/06/05
Munich's Linux migration slips to 2006  Loverock Davidson | 09/06/05
Troll  zkiwi | 09/06/05
250 machines is too much to handle?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
Meanwhile, in the real world  IT_User | 09/06/05
So...  zkiwi | 09/06/05
It's not the pilot program...  brble | 09/06/05
re: Munich's Linux migration slips to 2006  yyuko@... | 09/06/05
My 2 cents.  redtrain65 | 09/06/05
Snake Oil vs. the Real World  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
Ignorance?  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
Promices of pie in the sky.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
More like tradeoffs  IT_User | 09/06/05
All vendors promise Pie In the Sky  voska | 09/06/05
Absolutely agree  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
No kidding  voska | 09/06/05
So True  John Zern | 09/06/05
Munich govt was willing to pay more...  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
What losses would you have them cut?  IT_User | 09/06/05
No difference between migrating...  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
This is not easy, MS has been building this hairball for a long time.  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
Unfortunately...  nucrash | 09/06/05
Explain what you are talking about!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
They want the documents formated in an open format.  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
Again I ask, are they that stupid?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
why though??  Monkey_MCSE | 09/06/05
Same reason you have to download Acrobat Reader  osreinstall | 09/06/05
Oh you mean like a browser when Office is saved as HTML.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
They are smart, they only want one format.  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
There comes a time when enough is enough  voska | 09/06/05
HTML works for me  osreinstall | 09/06/05
Perhaps they were tired of the upgrade mill.  B.O.F.H. | 09/06/05
Why did they NEED to upgrade?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
why buy a house instead of lease?  maxo_z | 09/06/05
Best reason I've seen  voska | 09/06/05
Perhaps you do not understand the Microsoft business model?  B.O.F.H. | 09/06/05
No answer BOFH? Yeah, I thought so...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
Sorry No_Ax, some of us have lives away from ZDNet talkbacks.  B.O.F.H. | 09/06/05
Nice try at changin gthe subject, but as ALWAYS you have no answer.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
You shoulc choose your words a little better!  B.O.F.H. | 09/06/05
And they will be locked in with Linux.  osreinstall | 09/06/05
A distribution of Linux.  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
Please lay down the crack pipe  nucrash | 09/06/05
As soon as you close the Meth lab!  osreinstall | 09/06/05
Only thing I can say about Microsoft is ...  voska | 09/06/05
You are right mostly. The leadership goes in cycles.  osreinstall | 09/06/05
Get off it Donnie, your beating a dead horse.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
Switching is very hard, costlly. They did it because of MS dirty tricks.  DonnieBoy | 09/06/05
Car Analogy!  osreinstall | 09/06/05
Why does any zealot do something?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
Donnie the all seeing all knowing  John Zern | 09/06/05
Want to know what I find odd?  voska | 09/06/05
Canadians are polite people...  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
Yup  voska | 09/06/05
Kiosks browsing in the fairgrounds?  osreinstall | 09/06/05
Have they completed the conversion?  ShadeTree | 09/08/05
First hand experience Point of View  nucrash | 09/06/05
Never give up hope or the "This is the year of Linux"  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
Release of Vista...  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
Linux will never be big here first  voska | 09/06/05
Don't see Mac next year  nucrash | 09/06/05
Why couldn't Mac on Intel...  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
Distro Level is nothing  nucrash | 09/06/05
Just doesn't look as promising.  nucrash | 09/06/05
Apple has been through this at least once...  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
Don't you find it funny that ...  ShadeTree | 09/06/05
Good move on the part of Munich ...  George Mitchell | 09/06/05
Linux on servers.  Anton Philidor | 09/06/05
Thats Possible  John Zern | 09/06/05
Success lies in ignoring the extremists!  George Mitchell | 09/06/05
Thank you.  Anton Philidor | 09/07/05
Next month they will be singing:  osreinstall | 09/06/05
going for that troll look eh?  Monkey_MCSE | 09/06/05
You bit on!  osreinstall | 09/06/05
simply pointed out  Monkey_MCSE | 09/06/05
It's how you do it.  osreinstall | 09/06/05
i sometimes wonder about people here.  Monkey_MCSE | 09/06/05
RE:Same reason you have to download Acrobat Reader  Monkey_MCSE | 09/06/05
You are manufacturing a problem  osreinstall | 09/06/05
i think we're perceiving each other in the wrong context...  Monkey_MCSE | 09/06/05
Price is not bad if you need it.  osreinstall | 09/06/05
It was May 28, 2003 when the news broke that ...  ShadeTree | 09/06/05
nice assumption, baseless, yet a nice one  Monkey_MCSE | 09/06/05
Is 2 to 3 years the bar they should be measured against.  ShadeTree | 09/06/05
Oh, I don't know, about about longhorn?  nucrash | 09/06/05
Surely you are not trying to compare the ...  ShadeTree | 09/06/05
I don't know about that  nucrash | 09/06/05
It took that long to figure out they needed a *pilot* program.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/06/05
They rebuilt Berlin in less time than this migration.  osreinstall | 09/06/05
When Linux is delayed  John Zern | 09/06/05
Where was Linux delayed"  Richard Flude | 09/06/05
I'm Glad!  tystoy1 | 09/07/05
You should be. There are no performance clauses in the contract.  osreinstall | 09/08/05
Remember that Munich is the customer here ...  George Mitchell | 09/06/05
Don't get me wrong!  ShadeTree | 09/07/05
For those that want information on the migration  Richard Flude | 09/06/05
Not that important in the scheme of things  jorwell | 09/07/05
The beer is so good, it's a wonder anything gets done!  ejhonda | 09/07/05
No problem  jorwell | 09/07/05
Ouch.... Penguin is starting to stagger  john.gruber@... | 09/07/05

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