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I didn't stray off topic, "No Axe"
I quoted Microsoft's Jim Allchin, under oath, telling the world that to share Windows code would be to undermine American national security. Yet now Microsoft are extending the scheme whereby US friendly nations like China are given the code to examine. (By the way did you ever get your spy plane back from the Chinese?). I think that's relevant. Because either Allchin is a bare faced liar under oath, or, Microsoft are now promoting a scheme whereby they actively undermine US national security. Which is it, "No Axe"?

Since we're quoting liars from Microsoft, here's master liar Allchin again :

"Microsoft has said it has stamped out buffer overflows with the upcoming release of Windows XP. Jim Allchin, vice president, claimed the company has done a complete code review of its operating system and removed all buffers which could overflow".

Do you see the relevance? Basically. Microsoft are inextricably linked with liars telling lies for money.

Their product is substandard crap ... they know it, they know we know, but as long as that crap can amass $48 billion cash reserve, the lies, and the shoddy, substandard, insecure, worm-infested, virus blown software will continue to come oozing out of Redmond. With a nice thick coating of sugary lies on top, of course. Just ask Jim.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,165596,00.asp
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