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It's a semantics game *now*, not later
Keys are trivially revoked in the new system. That means even if keys are compromised in the new one and given to Linux, they will stop working.

If they followed best practices, the other keys will not be extractable (that was the flaw with CSS). The computational power to extract a key will be huge, and then *poof*, the key is gone.

It's going to take reverse engineering all of Vista to break this, rather than a single program. That's a heck of a lot more work than before. And if the security is distributed throught the player, the video card, the OS, it's even harder.

All of this is trying to address the theoretical flaw of DRM - try to make the attacker and authorized person different entities. Once that has happened, DRM is effective.

MS saying no would simply be more market pressure against it.
Posted by: rpmyers1   Posted on: 08/30/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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So will new hardware only work with Vista, then?  Zogg | 08/30/05
The hardware will work with other OS's but ...  ShadeTree | 08/30/05
Re: All new HD content will require DRM to play.  Otto_Delete | 08/30/05
That would be insane  tic swayback | 08/30/05
Majority of customers?  NonZealot | 08/30/05
Tiny minorities  tic swayback | 08/30/05
It will be a fact of life ...  George Mitchell | 08/30/05
Or it could go the opposite way  tic swayback | 08/30/05
Well ... no argument with that ... (nt)  George Mitchell | 08/30/05
RE: "So will new hardware only work with Vista, then?"  ajapierce | 08/30/05
Yeah, right  GMTobias | 08/30/05
Another MS Product Not to Buy  Not*A*Clue | 08/30/05
The more they tighten their grip  nucrash | 08/30/05
Strongarm tactics against pirates...  Scrat | 08/30/05
It would be nice  Real World | 08/30/05
Leave the computer to do the computing, What????  cyber-shoplifter | 08/30/05
With all due respect...  jtnixon | 08/30/05
Go look in any college dorm room to see future..  cyber-shoplifter | 08/30/05
iTunes?  mds_z | 08/31/05
Ok, let me get this straight...  BitTwiddler | 08/30/05
"Protected Video Path" give me a break.  cyber-shoplifter | 08/30/05
Protected Video Path  vorlon007@... | 08/30/05
Protected Video Path  vorlon007@... | 08/30/05
Anti-Pirate  Middle of the Road | 08/30/05
At what point?  Tim Patterson | 08/30/05
Well said!  TheSickEmpire | 08/30/05
Queue the ABMers!  NonZealot | 08/30/05
And if MS said "No"  rpmyers1 | 08/30/05
Why would they say no?  tic swayback | 08/30/05
Then Windows couldn't play protected content  NonZealot | 08/30/05
It's a semantics game *now*, not later  rpmyers1 | 08/30/05
FAQ: Vista's strong, new antipiracy protections  Loverock Davidson | 08/30/05
Aren't you naive  ZzSmirKzZ | 08/30/05
You're forgetting something....  hal9000mx | 08/30/05
Easy solution  Loverock Davidson | 08/30/05
Anti Piracy isn't bad, But...  Trevor_G | 08/30/05
You're killing me, Loverock!  tic swayback | 08/30/05
Products are priced to cover losses  osreinstall | 08/30/05
What the market will bear  tic swayback | 08/30/05
You just said it  osreinstall | 08/30/05
Are you nuts?  jupco | 08/30/05
Yah right  alpctech | 08/31/05
inflate prices?  G Fedorchuk | 09/04/05
"I don't need no stinkin' tv,dvd,cd etc."  cyber-shoplifter | 08/30/05
Soon wil will need it!!! (NT)  hal9000mx | 08/30/05
stinkin' tv  SC-man | 08/30/05
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I'm glad....  hal9000mx | 08/30/05
Where don't you want to go today?  tic swayback | 08/30/05
I'm looking forward to the new Windows  Real World | 08/30/05
You have it 180 degrees backwards.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/30/05
I almost agree with you  Patrick Jones | 08/30/05
Yet again  Trevor_G | 08/30/05
Laughable  tic swayback | 08/30/05
I would like to see that!  Patrick Jones | 08/30/05
I'm taking my ball and going home!  tic swayback | 08/30/05
Once again you prove...  NonZealot | 08/30/05
Blue Fish DVDs Smell  cyber-shoplifter | 08/30/05
Let them go bankrupt  bush5150 | 01/08/07
MacOSX is different?  NonZealot | 08/30/05
DVDs on OSX  tic swayback | 08/30/05
Just say no!  Tim Patterson | 08/30/05
How much?  Tim Patterson | 08/30/05
Looks like XP will be the last Windows OS  kcredden | 08/30/05
Every Time I hear that I laugh  nucrash | 08/30/05
DVDAUDIO - SACD r DRM ridden and FAILED  cyber-shoplifter | 08/30/05
Why iTunes works  tic swayback | 08/30/05
BINGO, YOU NAILED IT...  cyber-shoplifter | 08/30/05
I WILL NOT BUY THIS JUNK!  DarbyOhara | 08/30/05
Buahahahah  nucrash | 08/30/05
Oh wait  nucrash | 08/30/05
Mactel baby!  tic swayback | 08/30/05
BTW, re:Mactel  NonZealot | 08/30/05
The first taste is free....  tic swayback | 08/30/05
That I will agree with you on  osreinstall | 08/30/05
Good  NonZealot | 08/30/05
IceLink  tic swayback | 08/30/05
Oh yes you will eventually  osreinstall | 08/30/05
RE: Oh yes you will eventually  Linux User 147560 | 08/30/05
That is another alternative  osreinstall | 08/30/05
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Yeppers ... ALL MS ...  gary.douglas@... | 08/30/05
How many flop does hollywood need to understand  Mectron | 08/30/05
Why am I not suprised?!  Sabz5150 | 08/30/05
Ever a reason...  jmills@... | 08/30/05
DRM can be beat...  Linux User 147560 | 08/30/05
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let me get this stright....  gamerzworld | 08/31/05
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Sign me up!  mbrierley | 08/31/05
Market forces will prevail  Nomino | 09/02/05

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