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alas, the madonna does not function. Aut For Autists & FUNctional Autism: I have thousands & $k's
of dollars worth of glass, clay, kilns, silver, etc & I want REAL WORLD tools of value, usefulness, immediacy ....EASE & success.
I also have spent an equal (but not really EQual value) amt of $ over the years on !@#$% "art" & graphics apps that require at least a couple of equally expensive/useless community college & univ (UCSD) classes to even approach 'using' them. I'm pretty much disgusted with ALL of it, except the physical art supplies.
Imagine my amazement when upon taking a class on AutoCad 2000 I could in about seven or eight weeks do 3d animations & more; raster & vector imaging so simple & intuitive it blew my mind. I've always been 'artistically' directed & physically productive, & disinclined to the engineering & math-type left brained thing. So my question & answer has to be that it's something 'wrong' with me & not the software. It does not stand to reason that photo/art/illustration/graphics software is so completely left-brained-built & dominated & impossibly ... well, I could spend all my time 'conquering Adobe' it would be a great accomplishment, I greatly admire those who do. But when, like today I want to take a photo, develop an acid-resist negative for some fine silver sheet & etch it, then get some frit & try a half-dozen different cloisonne, plique-a-jour, or even fused-glass evolutions of my original image, what are my ""Adobe Alternatives"" has to be my first consideration. (that's how I got to this site in the first place) Really all I'm asking is what do you folks suggest? I don't want a debate with people (like me?) who are compelled to justify the ever-accruing expenses, one of you called it Bloatware, of dumb crap like CorelSwamp or
AdobeAnything. I fall back on MS Word for anything that a PDF is supposed to do- too many temp - office jobs... whatever. But I'll bet you one final big thing for all you code-writers, software developers & entrepreneurs: there's likely many millions more of folks like me (=$)than there are who can, will, or have mastered Adobe & that my cave paintings will last a hell of a lot longer as well. I just want to do them prettier.; Posted by: brunoleschi Posted on: 07/27/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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We dumped Adobe ages ago... Mike Cox | 08/15/05

7.6 nucrash | 08/15/05

Come on..."questionable content"...8.2 el1jones | 08/15/05

8 archnova79 | 08/15/05

Welcome back Mike. shallow_diver | 08/15/05

We dumped Adobe ages ago... Mike Cox -- 08/15/05 bobbi2000 | 08/15/05

9.0 - got one jheine | 08/15/05

"Questionable Content..." robgroh | 08/15/05

GIMP sp29 | 08/15/05

Free, powerful, and useless. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

Then you didn't really try it, Patrick Jones | 08/15/05

Tried it, didn't like it. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

Maybe, or not yet.. Patrick Jones | 08/15/05

I would venture 99.9% have no desire No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

Then I would venture.... TtfnJohn | 08/15/05

Yup, that's why the MS suite will do well. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

No arguement there (NT) Patrick Jones | 08/16/05

I've used it voska | 08/15/05

And photoshop is easier to use? Patrick Jones | 08/15/05

Didn't mean to give that impression voska | 08/15/05

Wait for it.... Patrick Jones | 08/15/05

Big *IF* Patrick No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

Adobe's interfaces tic swayback | 08/15/05

Why? Harder to use than Picture It? skeptic tank | 08/15/05

They're gonna have a real tough time... Yen_z | 08/15/05

Yup, people said the same about 123, WordPerfect, etc.. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

Remember Microsoft Draw? Yen_z | 08/15/05

Obviously you haven't tried the software... No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

LOL Yen_z | 08/15/05

NIce try, but doesn't change your ignorance of the product. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

Troll Fred Fredrickson | 08/16/05

Not a fair comparison voska | 08/15/05

Sure it is... No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

MS has never had an effect voska | 08/15/05

That's what I was thinking! (NT) Patrick Jones | 08/15/05

Good business is capitalizing on the competitions mistakes. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

In that case... Anti_Zealot | 08/16/05

So it was just Real World | 08/15/05

A rose by any other name... No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

No, we don't Real World | 08/15/05

Buwahahahaha all the way to the bank. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

Better example for you voska | 08/15/05

Don't bother to reply to Bitty's trolls Fred Fredrickson | 08/16/05

Ah, you feel the need to make it personal huh? No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

Times change tic swayback | 08/15/05

As part of Office... No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

But that's not how they rose to the top tic swayback | 08/15/05

Naw, people like "bundles" No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

Different thing tic swayback | 08/15/05

tic, the problem is you only see a small part of it. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

But it's not relevant Fred Fredrickson | 08/16/05

I think your way off base. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

All your offbase belong to.... tic swayback | 08/16/05

tic you misunderstand No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

I'd add one thing tic swayback | 08/16/05

Don't knock it until you try it folks. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

Why? tic swayback | 08/15/05

Because... vandamme | 08/15/05

That ignores the installed base tic swayback | 08/15/05

Not entirely... Wolfie2K3 | 08/15/05

Vector and Image graphics. Something Photoshop can't do. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

Illustrator does them just fine tic swayback | 08/15/05

Or one package to do them all. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

One package indeed tic swayback | 08/15/05

That's not new... Anti_Zealot | 08/16/05

Good, glad of it. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

One word for you... Anti_Zealot | 08/16/05

Gee, a little competition and you guys fall apart. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

Being two faced... Anti_Zealot | 08/16/05

Your the expert on that one. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

I don't know, you tell me, mister Anti_Zealot | 08/16/05

MS tools for graphic designers? theo_durcan | 08/15/05

Yeah, all those FP web sites are imaginary. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

Quantity verus quality tic swayback | 08/15/05

Time will tell... No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

They do offer it tic swayback | 08/15/05

And if MS can do it all in one package... No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

Adobe can do it in one package too tic swayback | 08/15/05

Start at the lower end works for AMD. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

And AMD has what, 8% of the market? tic swayback | 08/16/05

Word started with 0% of the market. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

See my other post, "Times Change" tic swayback | 08/16/05

Re: Adobe doesn't offer... Anti_Zealot | 08/16/05

Ah, but you only see part of it. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

MS does have a larger record of failures than successes tic swayback | 08/16/05

Depends how you measure success. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

I chuckle too... Anti_Zealot | 08/16/05

Defining success tic swayback | 08/16/05

Nowadays everybody is a designer mactolinux | 08/16/05

Adobe and Microsoft Signatiusm | 08/15/05

By the way folks, this is the first shoe. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/05

Please, say it isn't so.. Patrick Jones | 08/16/05

You said it clear and concise mactolinux | 08/16/05

First sign of the apocalypse tic swayback | 08/16/05

SHOES NOBODY USES! theo_durcan | 08/16/05

Nope works in XP No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

XP? big deal... theo_durcan | 08/16/05

Win98? Big deal.. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

Many Adobe alternatives... Allstar_z | 08/15/05

And here you guys always say competition is good. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

Who's saying Microsoft can't compete? Patrick Jones | 08/16/05

Why does it matter? No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

I don't care about the bashers. Patrick Jones | 08/16/05

Hard to argue with success though. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

For Profits Patrick Jones | 08/16/05

The "package" seels. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

Yes, the package sells.. Patrick Jones | 08/16/05

Fair competition is great tic swayback | 08/16/05

MS simply meets demand of consumers. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

OEM Anti_Zealot | 08/16/05

Word.. Patrick Jones | 08/16/05

Gee, there is an entire web site devoted to it. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/16/05

Come on, No_Ax Patrick Jones | 08/16/05

People don't want packages tic swayback | 08/16/05

Microsoft has proven you wrong.. Patrick Jones | 08/16/05

alas, the madonna does not function. Aut For Autists & FUNctional Autism brunoleschi | 07/27/06

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