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Notices sent this week to employees in everything from sales to services and manufacturing identified the affected as "selected for permanent layoff" as part of a broad "skills resources transition" at IBM.

Lee Conrad, a former IBM employee and now a national organizer for the Alliance at IBM, a unit of the Communications Workers of America, estimates "about 1,000" workers have been affected by the cuts in the past week and calls the company's "secretive" cuts a "shell game." "IBM needs to come out and say exactly what they're doing," he said


Or how about this one?

While there have been reports that IBM intends to ship 4,700 high-end jobs to India and China next year, they mark a rare instance when figures "have been reported in black and white," said Linda Guyer, president of Alliance+IBM, a union that has tried to organize IBM employees.

Those numbers were not released by IBM, but rather disclosed by The Wall Street Journal, which had obtained an internal memo. The company has declined to comment.

Guyer believes as many as 40,000 of IBM's 160,000 U.S. jobs will be transferred overseas by 2005, a figure she says was gathered from phone calls by IBM employees.

Previously, IBM has pointed to a report by the McKinsey Global Institute that concludes the U.S. economy ultimately will benefit. The report was commissioned by Nasscom, a group made up of Indian tech companies as well as IBM's Indian services unit--showing an effort by those invested in offshoring to sway public opinion.



Yes sir, IBM is the friend to all open source folks, as long as it lines their wallet that it...
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M$ pitches in to support USA  Chad_z | 01/13/04
Message has been deleted.  GRindinAxTaRupy | 01/13/04
Ohhh....  BitTwiddler | 01/13/04
So much for free and open exchange of ideas and opinions...  AbsolutelyNot | 01/13/04
Offshoring is only one side of the coin  dg mh | 01/13/04
Give it long enough  AbsolutelyNot | 01/13/04
Competition - Winners and Losers.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Current administration Liberal?  el1jones | 01/13/04
Um, Clinton signed NAFTA  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Not a Liberal/Conservative slant...  wploger | 01/13/04
Exactly  el1jones | 01/13/04
Reaction from an Indian  sanjsh@... | 03/10/04
3 Ex-Leaders Praise A Decade of NAFTA  Totototo | 01/13/04
Tell it to the ones that lost their jobs.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Buy Lee's  AbsolutelyNot | 01/13/04
No, Indians do not hate Americans  sanjsh@... | 03/09/04
Bush has lost more US jobs since Hoover  JosePinchero | 01/13/04
Shhhh! The "Homeland Security" department may come for you  GRindinAxTaRupy | 01/13/04
Yes, but...  BitTwiddler | 01/13/04
What is best for everyone aside from RICH American CEOs  SteveProgrammer | 01/13/04
Biggest single savings... outsource CEOs  UnSpin | 01/13/04
Outsourcing BAD, Augh! Me no like. Gahh!  xxyl | 01/13/04
Protectionism BAD Greed GOOD  cmkors | 01/13/04
Outsourcing BAD, Augh! Me no like. Gahh!  kreetz | 01/14/04
The way Economy grows: A Reaction from Indian  sanjsh@... | 03/10/04
Outsourcing Is Bad For All Americans  thomas_dark | 01/13/04
I'm Unionized  AbsolutelyNot | 01/13/04
Outsourcing Is Bad For All Americans  kreetz | 01/14/04
Outsourcing Is Bad For All Americans  thomas_dark | 01/13/04
US urges Europe and Australia to unite  FilledOut | 01/13/04
What is with you folks?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Any way you can troll, right?  NoB$ | 01/13/04
My, what a cute little rant...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
He's got a smart mommy  Nullifidian | 01/13/04
If you say so...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Situational ethics  rapson | 01/13/04
Sadly, your right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Maybe you're in need of-  AbsolutelyNot | 01/13/04
Ethics  Bill4 | 01/13/04
That'll teach me  rapson | 01/13/04
And your point is...  Taz_z | 01/13/04
Wow, I had hoped...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
And...  Patrick Jones | 01/13/04
Apples and doughnuts  Taz_z | 01/13/04
Read and learn...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
What the hell does this have to do with Asian Linux?  Taz_z | 01/13/04
Do you need a map?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
And the level in Lake Tanganyika is...  IT_User | 01/13/04
What does outsourcing have to do with Asian linux???  GRindinAxTaRupy | 01/13/04
See the post Read and learn...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
NONE of us are "seeing" it because there is NO CONNECTION!!!  GRindinAxTaRupy | 01/13/04
Not to worry the thinking ones understand.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
I think we both need some more of whatever he's taking  Taz_z | 01/13/04
No, you need to THINK...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Here you go, I don't want you left out.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Have you CONNECTED it yet?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Are you over the "delusion" yet?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Those that don't look, never see.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Wow, I finally got through to them.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Okay, that was some tantrum  IT_User | 01/13/04
Read it again!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Nothing  IT_User | 01/13/04
Only for those without eyes!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Because it's not Microsoft  rapson | 01/13/04
It's freedom of choice...  Mark Miller | 01/15/04
Know why I dislike dealing with outsourced tech-support?  Sir_Chancealot | 01/13/04
What do they care?  Chad_z | 01/13/04
India crashes and burns  Nigel Johnstone | 01/13/04
Quality of work from India.  kchahal | 01/13/04
They don't suck but are novices  maxo_z | 01/13/04
I wonder why companies outsource....  Erik1234 | 01/14/04

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