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No, I mentioned everything that needed mentioning
Where in the original post was IT Scion talking about Outlook or IE? I was responding specifically to his assertion that XP was more bloated than W2K. Since W2K has the same bundling of IE and OE, your little rant has, as usual, added nothing to the conversation.

Bloat is only bloat if it can't be turned off. Since all the eye candy in XP can be turned off and resource usage can be easily gotten down to the same level as W2K, I contend that XP is not more bloated than W2K, it simply offers the user more choice. Now, if you want to argue that W2K is bloated, that may make a good conversation for another talkback although something tells me that nothing new would be brought to the table.

As you will know from having run SuSe Linux, the applications are modules of code which run ON the Linux platform, whereas Microsoft applications are modules of code which have been stirred homogenously into the Operating System

I will address this having had the experience of trying (with various degrees of success) to build a linux system from scratch. Every library I built used one or more other libraries in order to do its work. By the time I got to building X, I had probably compiled on the order of 100 libraries, each and every one of them necessary for X. So I think it is a bit disingenuous to talk about Microsoft forcing IE on users while pretending that X doesn't force things like libpng on its users (http://securitytracker.com/alerts/2004/Aug/1010854.html). Your options are even more limited if you choose to use a standard distro where everything is built for you. The truly passionate and knowledgeable Linux user may be able to tweak the build of X to remove certain libraries but regular users won't, nor should they.

People don't have to launch the Outlook Express program, however, in order to fall victim to an attack

From the article you linked: when users visit newsgroups controlled by the hackers
Since Outlook Express is both a mail program and a news reader, I'm wondering if "when users visit newsgroups" should have been written "when users visit newsgroups using OE". If so, then people do have to launch OE to fall victim to an attack. If not, then it would be up to the news client to use OE as its mailer. If the news client did not use OE as its mailer, then users would be totally safe.
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