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Sounds like another embrace, develop, destroy story.
Posted by: BitTwiddler   Posted on: 06/20/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Come to our side...  BitTwiddler | 06/20/05
What you mean is?  nucrash | 06/20/05
M$ want's people to get comfortable and believe they are not going to  wessonjoe | 06/20/05
M$ is worse  DarthRidiculous | 06/20/05
Take over your desktop?  Fred Fredrickson | 06/20/05
Fred, Flash can be blocked/removed in Windows  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Use Firefox...  figgle | 06/20/05
Read his post, he plainly stated you can remove Flash from Windows.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
His subject was Flash, not browsers.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
He was comparing Flash to IE. Flash can be removed, IE NO.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
How many "rich applications"...  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Very few are running now, but Adobe has almost 100% coverage.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
I know, that's why i mentioned plugin removeal & Flashblock  Fred Fredrickson | 06/20/05
And, Flex runs on top of flash, that is how Adobe can guarantee it's on all  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
resorting to a personal attack is a logical fallacy that will get you  wessonjoe | 06/23/05
Flash download new version now- quick!  Roving_Reporter | 06/20/05
Microsoft helped a company work on PDF to Word  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
pdf to word, pure nonsense  theo_durcan | 06/20/05
Huge and awkward  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/05
PDF's are fine for look or print but don't touch.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Anton you dont know what you are talking  theo_durcan | 06/20/05
You are not correct  osreinstall | 06/20/05
And if it's not my original file?  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Word is a word processing program, PDF is portable document format  MacGeek2121 | 06/20/05
Hokey Smokes Rocky, Someone Really DOES Know the Difference  tbbrickster_z | 06/20/05
Another reason  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/20/05
Relative size  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/05
A .pdf file less than 1 MB?  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Adobe Speed WTF?  nucrash | 06/20/05
"Everything on the GUI is a PDF." ?  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Under 1 meg - no problem  j.m.galvin | 06/20/05
Word as an imaging app is trash  mactolinux | 06/20/05
Explained  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/05
Yes, the GUI is PDF.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/21/05
Word files are good for nothing  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/20/05
Implications of Mactel?  ouvrez | 06/20/05
More Mac users will try MS Products  sp29 | 06/20/05
They're going to have to give us quality first.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/21/05
Have you considered the implications?  nucrash | 06/20/05
Why is the Mac worth "top dollar"?  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Not always worth top dollar....  nucrash | 06/20/05
Re: have you considered...  Otto_Delete | 06/20/05
there a small problem that you seem to forget  toxicfreak | 06/20/05
GOOD SIDE EFFECT FOR APPLE  theo_durcan | 06/20/05
MS will bundle with the office suite most likely.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
More FUD  Fred Fredrickson | 06/20/05
The first monopoly was NOT obtained illegally.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Yes it was - read Jackson's findings of fact  Fred Fredrickson | 06/20/05
Adobe Needs the Competition!  sp29 | 06/20/05
Users would benefit.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
how often do you use photoshop/illustrator?  pesky_z | 06/20/05
We're not disagreeing.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
paint is lame  pesky_z | 06/20/05
Paint isn't in the running.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
99% don't need these  j.m.galvin | 06/20/05
What about Elements?  MacCanuck | 06/20/05
Other products do many low end functions better.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
stripped down products, xtra money anyone?  pesky_z | 06/20/05
Ever hear about....  robgroh | 06/20/05
$99 is not cheap.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Element, my dear Anton...  robgroh | 06/20/05
I can do "inkjet prints of Aunt Martha...  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
PSP  webcrazy | 06/20/05
Unfortunatly, the competition from MS will not be straight up.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Are you saying Adobe doesn't have a suite?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
They do not have an office suite, and they most definately do not have a  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Who said Office Suite?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
So what is your point. Adobe has no monopoly to leverage.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Lets back up a second...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
You hit the nail on the head, that is why MS will bundle with Office.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
But Office is not "free".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Yes, but MS can afford to lose millions on the add-ons, FOREVER  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
And Chevy can afford to  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
If Chevy had a monopoly in CARS, they could put Goodyear out of business.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Competition  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/05
Sorry...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Adobe should make all of their products  osreinstall | 06/20/05
Yet Another Micrsoft "Innovation"  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Aw, are you upset there is another competitor?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Yes, straight up competition is good. That is not the case here.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Ah, so you only want "poor" competitors.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Deep pockets are ok if they are trying to make money.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Of course they will make money.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Yes, they make money on the monopoly OS and Office Suite.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Poor argument...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
No, all car manufacturers have to make money.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Straw men  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/05
Are you dizzy from that spin?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Yeah, Isn't Your Company's Name ZDNet Suckup Industries?  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Straw men, part two  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/05
No, Not Upset, Just Proving That Microsoft Can't Invent Anything Original  itanalyst | 06/20/05
When you lose the debate, start insulting...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
I Haven't Lost Anything You Worthless Excuse For An IT Professional  itanalyst | 06/20/05
More attempts at insult. How very sad...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
How's This For An Insult?  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Competitor? Buuuuwaaaaahahahah! More like...  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
Yup, competition removes the weak.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
ZDNet says: Let's you and him fight.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
microsoft paint or Adobe photoshop, hmm......  pesky_z | 06/20/05
Who said anything about MS Paint?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
expression what???  pesky_z | 06/20/05
If you haven't used Expression...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Sorry, We Prefer Adobe Photoshop and Paintshop Pro  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Huh? Users seem to like it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Hmm...Just Asked My Network Techs (All MSCEs) What Expression Is  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Obviously your techs are way behind..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
I'll Be Sure To Tell My Techs What You Said  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Itanalyst, your MCSEs don't know about it  Patrick Jones | 06/20/05
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 06/20/05
adobe sales?  mkimage@... | 06/20/05
Huh?  ITGuy04 | 06/20/05
Resistance is futile...  robgroh | 06/20/05
Microsoft Office Document Image Writer?  herrmannator | 06/20/05
as it encroaches on Microsoft's turf  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/05
What's It Matter Anyway....It's Going To Be On Longhorn  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Funny, it runs on my XP box just fine.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Heck, it even runs on W2K.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Hmm..So Now You Are Asking Corporations With MILLIONS Of Adobe Docs  itanalyst | 06/20/05
True, the installed base of PDF creates quite a moat.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
You mean the PDF "monopoly".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Wow, The Pot Calling The Kettle Black  itanalyst | 06/20/05
You don't get it Ax  osreinstall | 06/20/05
Interesting..  Patrick Jones | 06/20/05
Actually  j.m.galvin | 06/20/05
I am not asking anyone to do anything.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Why don't you change your name to...  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
Why don't you...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
It would be different if the "playing field" is...  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
Level playing field has NEVER existed.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
And One Is A Monopolistic Bully  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Re: Level playing field has NEVER existed.  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 06/20/05
;-] (nt)  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
I guess if you mention...  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Message has been deleted.  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
WAAAAH WAAAH IM ZDNET AND I HAVE TO CENSOR EVERYTHING!!!  itanalyst | 06/21/05
Re: Message has been deleted.  Colonel_Panic | 06/21/05
Typo correction: that should read...  Colonel_Panic | 06/21/05
Businesses will have to switch  robgroh | 06/21/05
No, business won't "have to switch"  Otto_Delete | 06/21/05
Might as well start building the casket now. :-[ (nt)  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
Analysts got it right - there is a real threat from Flash  kgoldfisher@... | 06/20/05
MS will pick the low lying fruit and force Adobe back to its niche  MyLord | 06/20/05
Typical Microsoft tactics...  thetargos | 06/20/05
Will MS support other operating systems?  Otto_Delete | 06/20/05
Why?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Compiracy theory, next  theo_durcan | 06/20/05
$1000.oo Laghorn...  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
How about M$ bust up into little pieces that...  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
Tried and FAILED...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
What company would that be?  An_Axe_to_Grind | 06/21/05
Microsloth alternative to Flash?  An_Axe_to_Grind | 06/21/05
Ever hear of PhotoDraw?  bammike | 06/21/05

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