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"...after purchasing said GM car, can install any radio you want in addition to the Delco, but you can't remove the Delco. The reason why of course is that Delco has integrated the radio into the engine and if you remove it you won't be able to get ANY radio to work. EVER"

Great analogy. It would be nice if others could see it that way. And your right about manufacturers including some kind of media player. Manufacturers and ISPs used to distribute Netscape before Windows 98 tied IE into the OS. Even my Comcast CD, which I got this year (though I didn't really want it) had NIC drivers and a browser update on it. Inclusion is not the issue. It's removability.

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And the end user takes it in the backside.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Have you noticed no one is answering you..  Xunil_Sierutuf | 06/08/05
Oh, I Answered Him  itanalyst | 06/08/05
You must be kidding. Look at the thread.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
You're So Full Of Crap It's Not Funny You Know That?  itanalyst | 06/08/05
I don't understand  James T. Kirk | 06/08/05
Choices  jheine | 06/08/05
I see where you are DEAD WRONG.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Sometimes businesses have little choice but to use Windows.  DonnieBoy | 06/08/05
No businesses do it for their OWN BENEFIT.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Tell me, are businesses FORCED to use phones?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
RED HERRING!  Linux User 147560 | 06/08/05
..RED HERRING!  Linux User 147560 | 06/08/05
Green HERRING...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
First off  Linux User 147560 | 06/08/05
Huh? Linux, Apple, OS/2 have all been around for a long time  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
You don't get it do you?  Linux User 147560 | 06/08/05
Sp why did Apple have to switch to a cheaper CPU?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Intel chips are not cheaper than PPC chips  tic swayback | 06/09/05
I think we have been down FORCED road before.  nucrash | 06/09/05
Amendment to #2  jheine | 06/09/05
Try door # 3  jheine | 06/09/05
About Choices  osreinstall | 06/08/05
Good Points  Squawkbox | 06/08/05
Yes, but that choice was pretty close to gone.  nucrash | 06/09/05
Knowledge has its privileges  osreinstall | 06/09/05
I think they eventually will and should  mlindl | 06/10/05
They do and did have choices  FilledOut | 06/10/05
Sigh  DrDoug018 | 06/08/05
Yeah, And Kindergarden Got Out A Month Before  itanalyst | 06/08/05
You're missing the big picture  AWyant | 06/08/05
Speaking of missed pictures  tic swayback | 06/08/05
This only offers the customer the choice. It does not FORCE the new option.  DonnieBoy | 06/08/05
the Big Picture just went by...  cobalt54 | 06/08/05
and down the street  jheine | 06/09/05
Absolutely  cobalt54 | 06/09/05
LOL Good Points You Have Made!  itanalyst | 06/08/05
You mean education is bad??  nucrash | 06/09/05
Buwahahaha, I have no choice, I choose other players.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
This is win-win situation for the end user.  DonnieBoy | 06/08/05
Let's see if any usrs agree...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Will any OEMs buy this?  PB_z | 06/08/05
Not so far.  Anton Philidor | 06/08/05
They may be FORCED to offer it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
FORCED???  stormdoor | 06/08/05
Who FORCED you to use Windows?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Once Again, You're Full Of Crap  itanalyst | 06/08/05
How I wish...  Nullifidian | 06/08/05
LIke shooting fish in a barrel  DrDoug018 | 06/08/05
And I wish you...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
you just don't get it...  cobalt54 | 06/08/05
No, YOU need to check your facts. BADLY!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
I smell something stinky...  cobalt54 | 06/08/05
Ah, did the real FACTS slap you down...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Speaking of FULL OD CRAP.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
No One FORCED Me To Buy Windows...It Was Prepackaged With My System  itanalyst | 06/08/05
Not smart enough to order what you want?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Oh, they'll buy it, but...  Rodney Davis | 06/08/05
Correction  Rodney Davis | 06/08/05
Same price? Heck, I'd pay more!  alterego_z | 06/08/05
Never going to happen...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Future things will be removed before this happens.  Xunil_Sierutuf | 06/08/05
Again, You're Full Of Crap  itanalyst | 06/08/05
Wow, you seem to know a lot about crap. Wonder why?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Wrong motivation  tic swayback | 06/08/05
On this we agree...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
You would pay more than you think  osreinstall | 06/08/05
Could be significant news.  Anton Philidor | 06/08/05
re:  eLurker | 06/08/05
it's not what you take out...  pesky_z | 06/08/05
Gee, If I Install linux And Remove Browser, Media Player, and E-mail Client  itanalyst | 06/08/05
Ah, so you are saying peole can make a CHOICE about thier OS.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
No answer huh???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Actually...  nucrash | 06/09/05
NO, I Have What's Called A Job And A Life  itanalyst | 06/09/05
I think the ole People are Stupid Argument goes HERE  nucrash | 06/09/05
Wow  John Zern | 06/09/05
Microsloth's answer to viruses and trojans!  An_Axe_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Here's A Novel Idea!!  itanalyst | 06/08/05
That would be nice  jheine | 06/08/05
Do not even bother  osreinstall | 06/08/05
Just quicker  jheine | 06/09/05
It is the ROM  osreinstall | 06/09/05
Thanks!!  jheine | 06/10/05
LitePC  jheine | 06/10/05
Tried that too  osreinstall | 06/10/05
You are brilliant, now build and sell it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
How soon will we see your Beta???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
How Soon Will You STFU And Post Something Meaningful?  itanalyst | 06/09/05
Phew I am glad  Squawkbox | 06/08/05
You raise an interesting point!  tic swayback | 06/08/05
See my next post down  Squawkbox | 06/08/05
Puhlease Tic, Just OSX is all you or I will need (NT)  Squawkbox | 06/08/05
You is a sick puppy tic...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Here is a swandive  osreinstall | 06/08/05
EU will block WMP from the continent  osreinstall | 06/08/05
You think this EU thing ain't ABOUT MONEY  Squawkbox | 06/08/05
EU forces Boeing to rename all planes to "CrashALot"  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Guess what...  cobalt54 | 06/08/05
Blah, blah, blah.. What's that tiny noise I hear.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Knowledge and Truth  cobalt54 | 06/08/05
I fire idiots like you constantly...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Speaking of Personal Attacks  cobalt54 | 06/08/05
Get back to them? You went down this road, not me.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
A free-market economy?  Rodney Davis | 06/08/05
True.  cobalt54 | 06/08/05
Cobalt, you rreal colors are showing.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Cobalt, your real colors are showing.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
Microsoft Basher? True Colors?  cobalt54 | 06/08/05
The saving grace is... The EU is dying.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/08/05
How comezitis a law in the first place?  Squawkbox | 06/08/05
Here goes...  cobalt54 | 06/08/05
Hmmmm  Squawkbox | 06/08/05
Agree to disagree  cobalt54 | 06/08/05
The EU and Boeing  Squawkbox | 06/08/05
Be it Windows or Open Source, aren't you  John Zern | 06/09/05
And what about Paint, Calculator, Notepad and Freecell!!  SteveG123 | 06/09/05
Short-sighted  rapson | 06/10/05

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