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RE: It looks like Apple = iPod + iTunes Music Store
>When will 95% of the market try the rest of Apple hardware?

Never, but that's not to say it's a bad thing. Apple market share is slowly on the climb again, but it's never going to be a majority, and it doesn't need to be.

>Apple is 100% monopoly in the niche market. That?s why Apple is fighting for the survival and that?s why Linux is growing.

That's not really an accurate statement. Apple shares the 'niche' market... that is, the PC market not owned by MS operating systems, with other players like various Linux distros. Add to that the fact that Apple is definitely not fighting for survival. I believe since Jobs returned they have only had 1 quarter without profit. They have a hoard of cash and assets, they 're market share is growing, they're moving more units than ever before. Bottom line, they're in great shape. They're not as financially secure as, say, Microsoft, but then again, no one is, and they don't need to be.

>Please, compare performance (applications, not benchmarks) G4 vs. equally priced PC.

A couple things need to be understood for that to work... first of all, everyone realizes the G4 has been crwaling for a while. Motorola dragged their feet far too long with that chip (part of the reason Apple is now working with the IBM side of the PowerPC family.) Secondly, if you're buying into a G4 nowadays, you're buying into 1 of a few markets; 1 - you're buying a budget PC (ala the eMac,) 2 - you're buying a boutique PC (ala the iMac,) 3 - you're buying a mid to high end laptop. Essentially, if you're still looking at G4s, you're not looking for high-end performance machines.

In the budget PC arena, you can definitely get budget Windows PC with a nice 17" monitor and add a semi-decent video card that outperforms the eMac for $700-$800.

In the boutique PC arena, the playing field is a little more even, mainly due to the high quality of the iMac screens. Getting an LCD monitor that performs as well as those costs a lot (if you're talking about performance, you need to consider all performance aspects, not just the speed of the applications.) The rest of the specs are mostly mediocre to mid-grade... 1.25GHz G4s, GeForce 5200, 80 GB drives, etc. (though the DVD-RWs are still a nice inclusion.)

If you're looking at laptops, the iBooks probably offer the closest comparison in price/performance to Windows notbooks. They don't perform as well as the PowerBooks, but they're also a bit less expensive.

>(G5 is a bit different. Look at Macworld journal, December 2003, p. 60).

That's the thing, though, isn't it. If you're worried about that much performance, you're not looking at G4 anymore (unless you need mobility in a PowerBook.) You're looking at G5s, and price-to-performance, they rock right now. Those things scream.

>Linux also has dissent immunity to viruses.

Yes it does.

>Linux servers are much more attractive than Apple?s servers. Developers have access to all Linux codes but not all Apple?s code they need to develop applications.

That depends on the use, the environment, the administrators and the developers. Apple servers are very nice right now, especially with the introduction of G5 XServes. They're ultra-easy to set up and manage (FAR easier than any Linux box.) In the end, though, I actually like MS Servers. I know there's security issues and patches galore, but if you take a little care and administer them well, they offer everything I need.

>Linux desktop become better and better.

Agreed, it does, but it is still at least a couple years off from becoming a viable desktop platform for anything more than the most computer saavy people. I've mentioned this before in other discussions; Linux is not mature enough for average users, and that's what Linux needs to become widely accepted. It's one thing to say Linux is great (from everything I've experienced, it is.) It's another thing to say Linux is easy. To 99.8% of general computer users, Linux is incredibly intimidating. A lot of work has been done to make it less so by distros like Lycoris and Lindows, but it's not there yet for the average user. I seriously hope it does get there, because competition is good, for Mac users, for Windows users, for Linux users.
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New iPod not worth the price.  JakAttak | 01/06/04
It's about showing up Dull..  mlindl | 01/06/04
Getting older Apple equipment  FirstNLastN | 01/06/04
My thoughts exactly  Rick_K | 01/06/04
And they're ugly too  flafone | 01/07/04
Price Point Makes Sense  Greg Sparkman | 01/07/04
How much is a 4 G Rio Nitrus?  MarcB_z | 01/12/04
Congratulations Apple & Happy Anniversary!!!  gtdworak | 01/06/04
really?  dg mh | 01/06/04
yeah!  tic swayback | 01/06/04
Flying monkey's are highly unlikely  Prognosticator | 01/06/04
Monkeys Do Fly!  Greg Sparkman | 01/07/04
y r u even here?  stephen732@... | 01/06/04
$50 for 3.75X more hard drive space  tic swayback | 01/06/04
RE: I dig the new Garage Band  JakAttak | 01/06/04
GarageBand  Greg Sparkman | 01/07/04
G5 powerbook rumors?  milesdavisii | 01/06/04
Don't hold your breath  tic swayback | 01/06/04
Don't hold your breath  milesdavisii | 01/06/04
actually  doh123 | 01/06/04
New 970s in XServe  Greg Sparkman | 01/07/04
iPod of the near near distant future  FilledOut | 01/06/04
It looks like Apple = iPod + iTunes Music Store  Vily Clay | 01/06/04
Linux  FirstNLastN | 01/06/04
RE: It looks like Apple = iPod + iTunes Music Store  JakAttak | 01/06/04
I am just wondering ...  Vily Clay | 01/06/04
Who needs an excuse?  tic swayback | 01/06/04
See the pattern  Vily Clay | 01/06/04
Say what?  Fred Fredrickson | 01/06/04
Thus, you support MS monopoly or what? (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/06/04
The pattern is a profitable company  tic swayback | 01/07/04
Thus, you proved that Apple made MS monopoly.  Vily Clay | 01/07/04
I am just wondering ...  theo_durcan | 01/06/04
You are being too P.C. my friend.  rkadowns | 01/06/04
low expectations  stephen732@... | 01/06/04
Tacky and Witless  Chad_z | 01/07/04
Linux can run on Macs too  doh123 | 01/06/04
Exactly.  rkadowns | 01/06/04
Apple?s monopoly does not leave Yellow Dog a chance.  Vily Clay | 01/06/04
if you want good performance on linux, on any platform  doh123 | 01/07/04
Thanks. Common sense vs. Apple.  Vily Clay | 01/07/04
If Apple is that bad  Rick_K | 01/07/04
It looks like you want MS monopoly forever.  Vily Clay | 01/07/04
Look, just shut up alright??  eromitlab | 01/09/04
One more Apple?s dilettante.  Vily Clay | 01/09/04
I'll wait until it's CD quality b4 I get excited  zeusfuse | 01/07/04
So use AIFF files  Atlant | 01/07/04
hmm... have you used one?  eromitlab | 01/09/04
new iPod, same old problem  kamandi_z | 01/07/04
Years later, mine's just fine  tic swayback | 01/07/04
Battery is Fine  Greg Sparkman | 01/07/04
I hope so.  kamandi_z | 01/08/04
It's NOT the battery...  rlcato | 01/09/04
but still....  kamandi_z | 01/10/04
Yes they do...  rlcato | 01/11/04
Apple are losing it...  clarity1973 | 01/07/04
clarity1973 [sic] are losing it...  MarcB_z | 01/12/04
Infamous?  Greg Sparkman | 01/07/04
re: infamous  JakAttak | 01/08/04

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