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Call your bluff
"You provide less links than I, and I already had them
bookmarked."

It was never amount the number of links, the difference is
my links support what I said and your links disprove what
you said.

"Provide some new links."

Strange when it is you making unsubstantiated claims? But I
will continue to prove you wrong, still looking for that
elusive win?

"You can't even read what people are saying in the article. I
read Carlo and you said the EC. Comprehension problems."

Where? Again with your lies. My quotes have all been
attributed to the correct source!

"THEY WERE ORDERED! - DUH!

Appendix: Files Required to Be Removed by the European
Commission Decision End User Multimedia Functionality"

Yes they were ordered to remove WMP - well duh! However
your claim was what the EC required broke RP and QT -
THIS IS NOT TRUE - IT IS A LIE.

Here's what the EC defined as WMP in the order from the EC
(you know the original unchanged order than you still
haven't read:

[quote]
(6) the term ?Windows Media Player? means the media
code which Microsoft Corporation currently distributes as
WMP in Windows XP Embedded (thus including components
that support the Windows Media codecs, Windows
media file formats, WMDRM and the WMP User Interface);
for future versions of the Windows Client PC Operating
System, the term ?Windows Media Player? shall cover the
foregoing components;
[/quote]

The reasons for this scope are discussed in this [url=http:/
/management.silicon.com/government/
0,39024677,39119381,00.htm]article[/url] covering the
hearings. The EC was happy with Real Player working
without WMP installed. Again showing the EC did not
demand components to be removed breaking RP, and that
the order explicitly required it didn't. YOUR CLAIM IS A LIE.

You claim the EC has changed its ruling, or the
interpretation of it ruling, THIS IS A LIE.

You claim that the EC required code for interoperability -
THIS IS A LIE.

Your claim that the EC didn't address the MS requirement
for payment for the interoperability information - THIS IS A
LIE.

"Either that or you are a liar. From what I have read, it isn't
as bad as I thought for MS."

Pot meet Mr Kettle.

The decision is pro-competition. It is bad for MS is only the
extent to which they would find it difficult competing in a
more competitive market (and a huge fine).
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This make MS look like the village idiot.  DonnieBoy | 05/11/05
And your point is?  BXLE | 05/11/05
And your point is?  stormdoor | 05/11/05
And your point is?  FilledOut | 05/12/05
Microsoft is shooting themeselves in the foot. Do you have an argument??  DonnieBoy | 05/11/05
Dude, you think everything makes MS look like the village idiot (NT)  Loverock Davidson | 05/11/05
Dude, you don't have an argument. Tell why it's smart to flaunt the ruling  DonnieBoy | 05/11/05
Instead  Loverock Davidson | 05/11/05
The real village idiot is....  stormdoor | 05/11/05
Did you think of that all by yourself?  Loverock Davidson | 05/11/05
Darn, I need to try harder..  Xunil_Sierutuf | 05/11/05
And you think all what M$ does is alright.  thetargos | 05/11/05
And, he hasn't posted an opinion on this yet.  DonnieBoy | 05/11/05
Probably because  Loverock Davidson | 05/11/05
Your use  Loverock Davidson | 05/11/05
and your opinion means....  stormdoor | 05/11/05
Just like yours (NT)  Loverock Davidson | 05/11/05
The problem, the EU keeps chaning the "ruling".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/11/05
Get the facts, Don  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/11/05
Sorry but you are wrong...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/11/05
Yes, it did  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/11/05
Great strategy, tell the Europeans they are stupid. You are brilliant.  DonnieBoy | 05/11/05
If the shoe fits...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/11/05
So what is the point of your jiberish. You seem to hate Europeans.  DonnieBoy | 05/11/05
and you seem  eLurker | 05/12/05
Well, my opinions of our President aside, MS needs to work with the EU  DonnieBoy | 05/12/05
Wrong again  Richard Flude | 05/11/05
A no win situation for MS  osreinstall | 05/12/05
They NEVER said to delete the "Library"  Pyvent | 05/12/05
EC didn't want MS to remove the executable only  osreinstall | 05/12/05
Exactly  Richard Flude | 05/12/05
Wrong Ricky  osreinstall | 05/12/05
Show me!  Richard Flude | 05/13/05
You still ain't right  osreinstall | 05/13/05
right adj.  Richard Flude | 05/13/05
Your counter argument is disingenuous  osreinstall | 05/13/05
So you have nothing?  Richard Flude | 05/13/05
You still want to argue or manipulate  osreinstall | 05/13/05
right adj.  Richard Flude | 05/14/05
This is getting embarrassing!  Richard Flude | 05/14/05
Ok Embarassed  osreinstall | 05/14/05
Speaking of sad  Richard Flude | 05/15/05
Flude is in denial  osreinstall | 05/15/05
Classic  Richard Flude | 05/16/05
You are really delusional  osreinstall | 05/16/05
And another win - pow!  Richard Flude | 05/16/05
You are a waste of time  osreinstall | 05/16/05
Call your bluff  Richard Flude | 05/17/05
You can believe in what you want  osreinstall | 05/17/05
Actually, it should  rapson | 05/12/05
Two parts  Richard Flude | 05/12/05
Advice to MS  Prognosticator | 05/11/05
Short sighted  Henaway | 05/11/05
Excellent advice... I agree..  Xunil_Sierutuf | 05/11/05
Personal Jurisdiction  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/11/05
Jolly Roger  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/11/05
What's really going on here. (My Theory)  shmeep | 05/11/05
Yes, it is very true there is anti-US sentiment in Europe right now.  DonnieBoy | 05/11/05
Which ruling should the abide by?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/11/05
Examples, Don?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/11/05
Common sense kid...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/11/05
In other words  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/11/05
Ok you wanna play word games, fine.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/11/05
Common sense would tell one ...  George Mitchell | 05/11/05
Hey I tell ya what...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/11/05
re: Examples, Don?  Iain_Peters | 05/11/05
Haven't seen a link from you either  osreinstall | 05/11/05
What word?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/11/05
Be serious Yagotta  osreinstall | 05/11/05
Man, you are brilliant, you should work for Microsoft.  DonnieBoy | 05/11/05
It's not the EU...  Anton Philidor | 05/12/05
More than Microsoft, they are trying to rape Boeing too.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/11/05
It would be nice if you attacked the message  mlindl | 05/12/05
Racist?  rapson | 05/12/05
Rape Boeing? How and where did you hear this?  Pyvent | 05/12/05
go to google  eLurker | 05/12/05
sorry  eLurker | 05/12/05
Wrong - it's the money  mlindl | 05/12/05
the parties that started this were mostly American companies.  B.O.F.H. | 05/12/05
You might add that Real...  Anton Philidor | 05/12/05
Add Apple too...  PhilippeV | 05/13/05
This is getting interesting ...  George Mitchell | 05/11/05
If you have any good information...  Anton Philidor | 05/12/05
Microsoft  miler528@... | 05/11/05
I hope they charge back pay..!  Xunil_Sierutuf | 05/11/05
I hope they triple the cost to EU consumers...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/11/05
Yes, And Then The Government Goes To Linux  itanalyst | 05/11/05
Oh Suuure Thing  osreinstall | 05/11/05
start naming some crucial drivers and software without equivalent for Linux  hipparchus2000 | 05/11/05
Your wrong on a lot of stuff  osreinstall | 05/11/05
2 things you ned to update, sorta  Monkey_MCSE | 05/11/05
So Wrong on so many accounts  Ed_Myer | 05/11/05
OK you 2  osreinstall | 05/11/05
Missing the point  Ed_Myer | 05/11/05
You must be looking at a different site  osreinstall | 05/12/05
oh really  hipparchus2000 | 05/12/05
Looking at the right site  Ed_Myer | 05/12/05
Linux timing is awful.  osreinstall | 05/12/05
Me too!  michael-t | 05/11/05
Just how much do you hate Microsoft?  B.O.F.H. | 05/11/05
who knows  Monkey_MCSE | 05/11/05
Yes, a large portion of Microsoft revenues...  Anton Philidor | 05/12/05
No_Ax_to_Grind ...  Pyvent | 05/12/05
youre new here, right? (nt)  eLurker | 05/12/05
Fine, schmine  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/11/05
RE: Fine, schmine  Iain_Peters | 05/11/05
Right right ....  michael-t | 05/11/05
Pull the plug  KRF | 05/11/05
That's a  michael-t | 05/11/05
Sure. Apple would love the sales  ITGuy04 | 05/11/05
Just to confirm your position  Richard Flude | 05/11/05
European  mgombos@... | 05/13/05
wingeing microsoft apologists  hipparchus2000 | 05/11/05
Thought the BeOs settlement was "only" $23.3 million...  Anton Philidor | 05/12/05
maybe I got the $500m wrong, but yes, inappropriate behaviour  hipparchus2000 | 05/16/05
Battle of the socialist behemoths [NT]  Omch'Ar | 05/11/05
lol  CobraA1 | 05/12/05
Hey come on!  Pyvent | 05/12/05
Oh EU  FilledOut | 05/12/05
What does the EC want?  Anton Philidor | 05/12/05
There it is  rapson | 05/12/05
All in all ok, but what about the deadline for the US to convert to Metric  FilledOut | 05/12/05
NASA has converted I think  hipparchus2000 | 05/16/05
heres a shocker  eLurker | 05/12/05
Microsoft Monopoly  pinpintalk@... | 05/16/05

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