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I don't mind complaining, per se.
It's when it DOESN'T include suggestions for making things better that it tips over into whining. And WHINING DOES bug me, and whiners are fair game as individuals or as a group.

If, instead of saying "the US school system is abysmal," MikeZD had said something like "the US school system is behind other nations in that it doesn't ... blah, blah ... and could be improved by ... blah, blah," I would have a lot more respect for him and would be more understanding of his position.

But he just came out and dissed the U.S. on two points right after telling us how well the H-1B program had worked for him. Huh? That's like thanking the bride for the invite to her wedding and then mentioning that you thought the size of your piece of the cake was pretty stingy.
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Billy: we need to get our inovation in order.  DonnieBoy | 05/02/05
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He is right...  johnnyu | 05/02/05
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Oh Please..  Patrick Jones | 05/03/05
Now, let me get this straight.  Judas I. | 05/03/05
Agreed.  Anton Philidor | 05/03/05
Super idea, Anton.  Judas I. | 05/03/05
A better idea  nucrash | 05/03/05
As a ... person ... on these forums...  Anton Philidor | 05/03/05
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I started on an H1B  MikeZD | 05/02/05
Message has been deleted.  Xunil_Sierutuf | 05/03/05
I notice you don't say where you are from  Taz_z | 05/03/05
Oh, really?  Judas I. | 05/03/05
Hostility to individuals is counterproductive.  Anton Philidor | 05/03/05
If an individual enters into a discussion ...  Judas I. | 05/03/05
Relevant responses, though.  Anton Philidor | 05/03/05
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Sure it worked for me...  MikeZD | 05/03/05
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I know that was a harsh example, but....  nucrash | 05/03/05
Liars..  Patrick Jones | 05/03/05
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Bono also support Bush too!  Jeff Spicoli | 05/03/05
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this is a story about education  zeusfuse | 05/03/05
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Message has been deleted.  MepisLINUXuser | 05/03/05
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Hah hah hah, that's a knee slapper! (nt)  MepisLINUXuser | 05/03/05
Good one!  Patrick Jones | 05/03/05
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I thought about that the other day..  Patrick Jones | 05/03/05
Unfortunately, guys, ...  Judas I. | 05/03/05
US Schools MUST Stop PC Brainwashing.  RobertoSalazar | 05/03/05
Take your  Linux User 147560 | 05/03/05
A mere pittance of Bill's fortune...  MepisLINUXuser | 05/03/05
Ah yes, money  Linux User 147560 | 05/03/05
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Seems to work  Linux User 147560 | 05/03/05
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NCLB  Linux User 147560 | 05/03/05
U R Mean  SC-man | 05/03/05
ROFLMAO!  Linux User 147560 | 05/03/05
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Ms windows pervasiveness the main reason  michael-t | 05/03/05
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