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Be very wary of uninformed opinions (re-post)...
I recently attended a TenFold Paradigm class in an attempt to determine if the claims were true. I too downloaded the demo and while I was more enthusiastic than "jorwell", I was still not convinced the product was worth $5K per developer seat and $1K per end user.

The thing that was not real clear in the article is that the Tsunami "free" demo represents only a portion of the total product known as MyTenFold/Enterprise TenFold. There is so much more to behold.

One of the things that I appealed to me the most, as a developer, was how the product walks you through the full life cycle of software development. So as far as "jorwell's" claims, keep in mind that this person has not seen all the "stuff". The product includes a regression tester (complete with screen capture for developing tests).

I walked away from the week long training very enthused. The only thing that is preventing us from moving forward is whether or not the company will be around for the long haul (as was eluded to in the article's concern over the financials).

To me the weakest point related to the product is there is not WYSIWIG when building forms (i.e., transactions). I believe the same to be true of the reporting environment

It would be a shame if anyone based their decision on "jorwell's" opinion on some 80's green screen development environment when application development has evolved so dramatically since this time (NOTE to jorwell, please don't take offense).

I personally would like for TenFold to quickly create some sort flash demo of the further features/capabilities of the entire suite in order to get their story out there. Or provide ta 90-day license of their MyTenFold for evaluation purposes. Since the MyTenFold is a single user MySQL platform, it would be nice if they offered this for $99 to gain more developer support. If they did I believe their financial woes would disappear.

When I mentioned these things to TenFold?s personnel, they were concerned that an onslaught of new developers would not be adequately supported. I must say, this is very considerate of them. It was nice to get personal attention to my questions and quick turn-a-round during our initial evaluation.
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Hmmmm .. maybe it is ...  Linux_4u! | 05/02/05
Well...  jorwell | 05/02/05
Seeing is believing  mbennett | 05/02/05
I downloaded the demo  jorwell | 05/03/05
Be very wary of uninformed opinions...  mcatmull@... | 05/05/05
Tenfold  szgyula | 05/02/05
Tenfold Application  SSGRAY | 05/02/05
We should all have it so good.  habecker | 05/02/05
Convincing proof  NobodyHome | 05/02/05
Okay...  ExEm2SS | 05/02/05
Faster Development Was A Reality For Us  kbown | 05/02/05
Enterprise TenFold  tkares | 05/02/05
Coming from a TenFold VAR  redi2tech | 05/02/05
There is truth behind the claims.  bkwidell | 05/03/05
Does it work?  flylow | 05/03/05
Excellent choice...  diego1904 | 05/03/05
Scale of your Tenfold installation  haris_z | 05/17/05
Diego says it works.......  flylow | 05/03/05
Describe, don't code  habecker | 05/03/05
Code Production  flylow | 05/03/05
TenFold is the first, only, and best universal application  habecker | 05/04/05
TenFold is not the first, nor the only universal application  LouisCharbonneau | 05/05/05
Great! Others who strive for the paradigm shift.  habecker | 05/06/05
Words of caution...  lethax | 05/06/05
Response to Convincing Proof - FBI or IRS - idea  wolfhouse9 | 05/04/05
Would you buy TENF shares?  flylow | 05/04/05
Hold on little doggy...  mcatmull@... | 05/05/05
Access Response  zfuller123 | 05/05/05
Yes, Access has all of these limitations  ExEm2SS | 05/05/05
Valid points....  zfuller123 | 05/05/05
Why use anything else  wupper67 | 05/05/05
Be very wary of uninformed opinions (re-post)...  mcatmull@... | 05/05/05
Domain-Specific Business Development  kevincwalsh@... | 05/05/05
Making you, the developer, more valuable  habecker | 05/05/05
I used Tenfold  lethax | 05/05/05
Focus on business, not on art.  habecker | 05/05/05
Unrealistic  jd1 | 05/06/05
TenFold pricing updated  Damy_z | 05/06/05
Pricing  jd1 | 05/06/05
TenFold's pricing model - setting the record straight  btow | 05/06/05
Too Costly  lethax | 05/07/05
- and it works  wupper67 | 05/06/05
It works very well for some things  DoneThat | 05/06/05
Give me a break!  lethax | 05/06/05
Coders are weird people you lock in a closet  jlazaria | 05/06/05
Lies and more lies  lethax | 05/06/05
Sad Truth  jd1 | 05/06/05
Dramatic changes, new skills, and vested interests  habecker | 05/06/05
Tenfold still has a long way to go  lethax | 05/06/05
SQL  jd1 | 05/06/05
Works?  lethax | 05/06/05
Unbiased, outside opinions from the IT industry  btow | 05/09/05
Tenfold still doesn't get it  lethax | 05/10/05
Lethal Ax  flylow | 05/10/05
Clarification  lethax | 05/10/05
The truths I have found, thoughts about Lethax  Orden_z | 05/11/05
Quick note  AlliedTech0 | 05/11/05
Did you ever implement anything using Tenfold?  dchodges_z | 01/05/06
Did you ever implement anything using Tenfold?  dchodges_z | 01/05/06
Tenfold Past  flylow | 05/12/05
not the only one around  Gary_schmidt | 05/31/05
more codeless tools  wvdven | 08/24/05
Tenfold - An Offshore Headache?  LincolnImp | 01/31/06
Tenfold, PegaSystems, Majic  atticus123@... | 09/03/07
Tenfold experience  donotech | 10/01/07

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